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yes you are able to talk. are you sure ur in the right channel? also am i right in saying if the room is this shaped, it will always be a dead end (with/without key)? would be good to get some confirmation lol. Indeed they are dead ends the righthand most shape isn't always a dead end i believe, unless there's another room shaped like that that isn't a DE. yea I think ghost rooms sometimes look like the right most room No other room has the hole in the middle. Some "challenge" rooms - ferrets, ghosts, and ramo, from what I've seen, are narrowed with diagonal walls.

yes you are able to talk. are you sure ur in the right channel? also am i right in saying if the room is this shaped, it will always be a dead end (with/without key)? would be good to get some confirmation lol. Indeed they are dead ends

congrats max! nice gazerbow

[spoiler=picture] greens gets most deaths

Unless of course, I am mistaken and it is a different rule for those DGers who are higher ups in the clan chat and those of us who are still learning? Another problem that is faced in the chat that makes this void between users who want to key and the higher ups is Grimy's timesheet thing. I honestly believe that this is one of the worst thing to happen for DGS as it has now completely taken away any chance for someone like me to join a higher up/rank on a floor. Too many times now at Dae I have seen someone hosting a floor and deny a DGS user, new or old, a floor stating "No derps please, I don't want to affect my times", and I honestly believe that is why the 3 high levels in the point above quit the floor after 20 minutes. DGS's main aim used to be about LEARNING and TEACHING and ultimately not about times and how many times you can key a sub 20 min 5:5. This idea ultimately separates the Chat with those who can and those who are learning. To be able to learn effectively is to have a higher up/rank keying, yet they keep themselves to themselves often operating with each other and leaving everyone else to get on with it. I remember reading a comment from a user (whom I wont mention) detailing that he can only do one floor with new people before having to do Warped's with people he knows because he can't cope teaching. THIS is the exact attitude that the higher up's in DGS are now portraying to anyone coming into the CC and I would have thought this would be the exact attitude that DGS would try to avoid. People have to learn, and start from somewhere, sometimes progress may be fast, other times it's slow and therefore you might not be able to get that precious 20 minute or below floor and therefore *GASP SHOCK HORROR!* might have to sacrifice your precious average. Yet experience is key - someone learns a lot faster with people of more experience teaching and holding their hand. In my opinion, from an outside view, if this clan is going to keep living in Help and Advice instead of going into the Clan section (because ATM in my opinion with what the CC is expressing it belongs there) then some of the high end players need to lower themselves to start teaching us down here. Afterall experience is key to this teaching. I have done floors with Michael, benefitting greatly from his experience and teaching and yet still managing to get a reasonable time on a floor which was proceeded to be called horrible, but that's a different story. I learn so much from floors with Mr Recci and Mr Greens it's unbelievable because they have the experience and don't care about floor times. It's primarily down to these two people I have been able to learn my strengths and weeknesses in a dungeon and address them and become more efficient in the process. They show the exact attitude DGS should be embodying and therefore breaking up the routine of high levels just doing Warped's all the time and then doing Occs and Abd's between themselves should be the key factor, and also putting less emphasis on people getting low floor times and therefore a low average would be good. This is just my current 2 pence on DGS. I love the CC and I love some of the characters in it and you guys have hooked me on dungeoneering with my aim now being 100; but it's beginning to start to feel more of an elitist clan by the week as people progress into the higher levels and leave behind those who really need the help all in aid of getting a lower average to become the best higher up keyer there is. EDIT: Inb4*walloftext* :thumbsup: commentbyxpx <3: EDIT 2: And the post above mine, by Wadebling, about having a 22 min average today exactly emphasises my points about how there is a rift forming between higher ups and lower levels (although I can see it's F15). But also look at Eyebeam and Dying Silents posts with the 14 min time - again showing that higher levels stick together to get better times. I often take "derps" on my teams (there's almost always one or two on my abandoneds, and usually on my occults as well), and the only time I'll refuse to take someone is if I have done multiple floors with the person in question in which the person demonstrated an unwillingness to learn, an attitude/personality that I dislike, or repeated ignoring of my instructions. That all being said, I do prefer to do my floors with friends - very few of whom are high ranks. Also, I find it impossible to teach "derps" if there are four of them on a team - it's simply too difficult for me to correct their mistakes and key at the same time. With one or two however, it becomes very manageable and I feel the "derp" gets a much better learning experience in any case.

you can finally bind that argonite maul@@@@@@ -usa

thanks :thumbup: 1 second off warped time though.. can i get my badge please?

21:51 on a 10% bonus room xp floor whoooo, thanks Gwyn/Chicken/Pure/Mud.

Yeah, I just got kicked from a team at the boss door because I wanted to make an altar with the coins that people had in their inventories. Also, earlier I had asked them to stop mining and making armour. So basically, I'm all for The Ancient's suggestion for perm-team matchmaking. At only 89, no "pro" teams believe that I know how to rush, and almost all other teams at worlds 148 and 117 have no idea how to rush.

Sportive: P2P Thanks :) EDIT: Changed my name to Aqua Pez. Still p2p though. Sorry for any confusion.

And then larges, yes?

Out of curiousity, Assassin, to what floor do you do c1? I have no set scheme yet.

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I want to do more stupid stuff actually. Doesn't phase me how I could've thrown up blood. o_O I was thinking of drinking that 8-year-old drink I have (been meaning to do that for a while now), but maybe I should let it get a bit older. tbh, I don't even regret eating that piece of glass, it'll be a story to tell my grandchildren. "Sit down kids. I will tell you my epic story....." And so the glass legend began.... (to be continued) If you live til you have grandkids. Glass, 8-year-old drinks, what's next?

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