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You never will see that. As I said before, I don't enjoy grinding. (Really, who does?) Moreover, I'm not willing to grind just to get a cape (altough many do). Even if I were willing to do that, I would not pretend to "enjoy" burning 100k logs so that I could garner some "respect" for my "accomplishment."

That's quite a lucky coincidence for you that you just happen to love the four skills that are easiest to get a cape in.

I think this goes back to a basic philosophical point. I think that we humans naturally do not respect instrumentalism. Instrumentalism is doing something, not for its own sake, but to get something else. We like the ball player who plays "for the love of the game." We despise the guy who's "only in it for the money." The same idea bleeds into Runescape. We respect those who play the game because they enjoy the game. If they get a cape along the way, so much the better. We do not naturally respect someone who spends thousands of hours fletching, not because they love fletching, but only because they want a cape, which has nothing to do with fletching. Other skills don't suffer from this taint. Nobody does slayer just to get a cape. If you want a cape, there are easier ways to do it, e.g., cooking and fletching. So if somebody has a slayer cape, you think, wow, there's a guy who is really dedicated to slayer. You respect that. If you see a guy with a fletching cape, you say, there's a guy who was intent on getting a cape. Somehow, that seems less worthy of respect. Btw, is there an easy way to find out how many of each cape are held?

So everyone agrees that a lava cape is a lot easier to get than a cooking skill cape, right?

Personally, I would never try to get a skill cape -- grinding's not my idea of fun. I'm not criticizing it, I'm just saying it's not for me. Cooking does seem like it would be easiest. I've never "trained" cooking, just cooked my own food to support my slayer habit, and I've moved up several cooking levels by accident. In fact, I think my cooking's about as high as my slayer, and the only reason I do cooking at all is to keep slayer going. I would, however, be interested in a lava cape, but I don't think that I'm up to it yet. For those who have both a skill cape and a lava cape, which would be harder to get, a cooking skill cape or a lava cape?

I do tire of hearing this old whine. If I were such a statistical beast that no npc in Runescape presented a challenge for me, I'd figure it was time to head for the wildy.

Perhaps the damage is a percentage of your total hp? If so, the moral is to make sure you have full health when you attempt it.

Perhaps Jagex is trying to encourage cooking (as well as fishing)? In any decent POH, there are unlimited potatoes, cheese and milk. If your house is in Yanille, which I think you only need 50 construction to move it there, then you're close to a bank. You could cook potatoes with cheese and bank them easily. You'd only need butter. And isn't there a churn in Yanille next to the hops patch? If so, you could get 14 milks from your kitchen, churn them into butter, bake the potatoes, add the butter and cheese, bank, repeat, all within Yanille. If these things are worth 300 gp each, it might not be a horrible money maker, and it's easy and free cooking xp and good training food.

Well, for example, isn't it true that you get grave-digger only when you bury a bone? And, of course, the river troll pops up only while you're fishing. If these work this way, it's not hard to imagine that others work similarly. That would explain why, back when I did a lot of mining, I got the frog princess all the time. Now, not so much.

I'd like to see Jagex change randoms. Once you have full zombie, full mime, full camo, and full frog, you shouldn't get grave digger, mime, drill sargeant or frog princess anymore.

Perhaps this is the ToG-type mini-game? Your vine grows in a week. You can then kill it once per week for slayer xp without an assignment. Of course, the announcement said two skills -- perhaps you get farming for growing it and slayer for killing it, but only once per week. This would make some sense since farming and slayer are two of the harder (and less used) skills.

The head already was recovered during the Hand in the Sand quest. I'm not sure why you needed only one foot, though. When you think about it, one foot still is missing, and is the only part missing, after all of this. Maybe there's another sand quest in which the other foot will drop?

I'm not a newb hater -- we all were newbs at one time, and most of us would be considered a "newb" by someone in the game. After all, pretty much all of us are newbs compared to Zezima. Anyway, I try to be careful while trading with newbs. For example, if I'm carrying a tradeable quest item, and a newb asks to buy it, I ask him first whether he's done the quest that will allow him to use it. This wastes some time because he usually asks which quest and then wants help doing the quest, but that's the way I try to roll. I'd be interested to hear others' thoughts and reflections on trading with newbs in general and on something that I did the other day in particular. I was in west Varrock bank the other day Just before leaving, I called out "buying Zammy p1." Nobody responded right away, so I left. Then some guy came running after me saying he had the page. This guy wasn't exactly a newb -- he was level 74, but he seemed a little unsophisticated. I asked how much. He said "offer." Of course, this is standard. I offered 100k. I was willing to go somewhat higher. He said he didn't know what it's worth. I suggested that he look it up. He asked me to wait and logged out. I waited a few minutes, but finally left. He PM'd me later and said that he didn't know whether he should accept 100k and asked whether I had any items. We then went through a long list of items and combinations of items that I would trade for it. He wasn't sure. Finallly, he asked whether I had any chaos runes. I said not very many. He asked how many. I said 332. He offered to trade the page for the runes. I accepted. I think that the page was worth more than the runes. (I know it was worth more to me since I don't use chaos runes.) In fact, I think that the 100k that I offered him in the first place was worth more than the runes, although I don't really know since I don't buy and sell runes. Should I have told the guy that I thought he'd be better off with the 100k that I offered him in the first place?

I suspect Jagex may be trying to encourage people to become members. Don't forget -- the only reason they let you play for free at all is in the hope that you someday will pay.

I don't really think that you need to change the game to make this worthwhile. Blessed mith bolts hit pretty good, and you don't really need high mining, smithing, mage or fletching to make blessed mith bolts. Sounds like hunter bow might be better still. I've never tried hunter -- maybe it's time.

I find that Seers' is so jammed that I can't do any business there.

Mining, I think, but others should be catching up.

Meanwhile, you'll just have to go back to Pest Control.

Let's see if this helps you understand the point. Imagine if Jagex created a "minigame" that allowed you to walk up and kill a goblin and your reward would be level 99 in any skill of your choice. Assume you could play the game as often as you wanted. Would that be an improvement to the game? If you think not, why not? You want fast xp, right? It couldn't get much faster than that! But everyone would have a skillcape in every skill you say? It would be too easy you say? That's the point, exactly. Getting high levels is supposed to be hard. If it's too easy, what's the point? It's good to have alternative ways to earn xp, but it's not good if one way is very much easier than others. I don't really know whether PC is much easier than other training methods -- I've never tried it, but the popular perception among those who have seems to be that it is much easier than any other training method out there. If so, then Jagex should adjust it. The adjustment would be easy -- just give the things you have to kill (gates, or whatever) higher defense. That would slow down the torrent of xp. People would then choose PC because they enjoy the nature of the game, not for easy xp. That would be a positive update, it seems to me.

I've never played PC, but I've heard that it's the fastest way to train mele. If it's too easy, then Jagex can fix that easily -- just make it harder. Give the "pests" higher defense, or whatever. But you're right that all of the high level "PC products" will still be out there.

You need a lot higher rank to buy the skirt. If you can get someone else to buy it and sell it to you, you can wear it, but you can't buy it yourself until you get a high rank.

In In Aid of Myreque, King Roald's advisor acted very suspiciously in response to all of the talk of evil creatures crossing the Salve into Varrock territory.

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if you are right about this. But what percentage of players are 120+ players? Probably fewer than 10%. Jagex has a very tough job in trying to make everyone happy. The fact is that they simply cannot reasonably be expected to expend the huge resoures required to add features to the game that only a few people can use. When they create something like the new museum, EVERYBODY can use it. You think it's too newb for you, so you won't try it. Fine. But if they create a level 1000 monster, very few people can even attempt that. I'm sure that if too many stat grinders start getting bored with the game and canceling their memberships, they'll do something for you. Look at it this way . . . it could be worse -- you could be Zezima. Here's something that surprises me, and this applies to players across the board. Why is it that so many people require new content all the time? Honestly, if Jagex did one update per quarter, that would be enough for me. There's tons to do in this game, and that applies to all levels.

Ok, this makes your point more clear -- it's not that you hate graphics updates, it's that you're not happy with the content updates. That's fair -- not everyone likes everything that Jagex adds to the game. But I think you might be selling the "museum thing" short a little. It had to take a lot of work to put that together. You might not like it (although I think you admit that you haven't tried it, so I'm not sure how you can say that you don't like it), but lots of people seem to be having fun with it. And contrary to what you say, nobody has "finished" it yet -- they've done all they can do so far, and now they're waiting for the next "island" stage. And who knows? The next stage may be huge. You might love it. It could be another fight caves or something? And even if you don't like the island, this update strikes me as the kind of thing that will be expandable going forward, so if you don't like it now, you might like it better when they add to it in the future. Perhaps a little patience?

This post is pathetic in at least three ways: First, it betrays a misimpression that the high level players are Jagex's "best" customers. Hello? Jagex is a business. Their best customer is the guy who plunks down his five bucks per month and never plays (and never takes up any room on the servers). Better yet is the kid who pays for four files (yes, they do) when he can play only one at a time. You grinders who play hour after hour, taking up space on the Jagex servers and still paying no more than anybody else are NOT the best customers. So why should Jagex cater to you? You're obviously hooked. You're not going to go anywhere and walk away from your thousands of invested hours. Again, Jagex is very business saavy -- you're not. Second, this loser thinks that being a high level player is a good thing. No offense to high level players, most of whom are very nice, but we all play this game too much, and the higher your level, the sadder it is. I don't mean to insult anyone, but having multiple skillcapes is nothing to brag about. Play the game. Enjoy it. But you're delusional if you think that high stats makes you somehow superior. Third, the whining about nothing new for high levels to do is very tiring. There's plenty for you to do. Try the fight pits and prove what a virtual BA you are (because heaven knows you're not a real life beast). If you can't find anyone to give you a good fight there, post a challenge on this forum -- you'll get plenty of takers. Better yet, put on all your best armor and stroll around in deep wildy -- that'll get your heart racing. When you get right down to it, what you want is for Jagex to spend thousands of programming hours to make a "safe" game that a few stat grinders can play. Give it up. They're not going to do it. There's no reason for them to do it.