Nairage

Thanks for the answer. It sounds like getting the prayer levels wasn't such a great idea in hindsight. Is there anything I can do with his stats assuming I get p2p in the future? Surely there are p2p builds that comprise higher level prayer stats.

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Hmm tough question. I think getting, let's say, 5 attack levels first would make the 5 strength levels easier than vice-versa, but I have nothing to back that up. If I were you I'd alternate every 3-5 levels to be safe. Hopefully someone will come along with a better answer because I'm interested too.

In short, I have an f2p pure with 40/64/1 melees, 54 hp, 31 prayer, 26 mage (going to get up), and 40 range. Combat level 51 Right now I'm holding my own against range 2h-ers, but I still feel at a slight disadvantage with the prayer. So here are the questions. 1) At what strength level does 31 prayer give me an advantage over other similar builds? 2) If I turn this guy p2p, what would be some good builds? I don't mind putting effort into a solid build, but I would prefer not to aim for endgame 90+ stats considering I still want to spend the majority of my time on my main. Right now I'm thinking of a gmauler. Thanks

As no one has bothered to answer, side stepping is very easy. I don't even want to call it a "technique", basically you get the melee brothers "stuck" on a corner.. I forget which NSEW directions work (it's been 4 years), but if you toy around for a few minutes you'll get used to it.

What do you suggest to do with mage?

Name: D34th R4y Attack: 30 Strength: 30 Def: 1 Mage: 25 Range: 38 (getting 40) Prayer: 23 Health: 33 Made him way back, before wildy ditch XD. Of course, no more wildy now. Probably getting attack to 40 soon. Also, not likely going to be members. Any suggestions? I was thinking of a hybrid when I first made him.

Sorry mayd, though I don't like comp very much, he has a point, and you are making yourself look kind of dumb. Part of ranting is presenting a bit of an argument against something.

IDK, untrimmed cooking is much more rare than fletching... maybe a 3 way tie between fletch/cook/str?

Disapproving of America's decisions in the past/ present isn't racism, it is a disapproval. 'Nuff said.

Who cares what others think about you? It is always good to have a high self esteem, so you can say "screw you" (pardon my language) to anyone who thinks you are a nerd for playing such a game. As someone in this thread said earlier, you are at the point in you life where what others think of you is important. As you grow, that becomes less important. For the most part, being able to take all the crap people give you, and telling yourself they are stupid enough to insult others for no reason, is a valuable skill to possess. "Nairage, maybe in hindsight you may be able to say this, but it is much harder as a teenager these days". I'm 14, and I've been through all this. Again, if someone asks if you play Runescape, be honest and say yes. If they stop being your friend/ start being mean to you, who cares what your 7th/8th grade peers think of you? You probably won't see them again as you get older.

Not sure if this has been said: maybe RS has a day/ few days dedicated to a "username change". Everyone is allowed to change their username to anything not chosen yet- but if they do not wish to choose it they do not have to. Also, the people on your friends/ignore list would not have to be re-added, their name would be automatically changed I, for one, created my username nairage a few years back, and it seems a bit childish to me now. However, I do not believe this will happen, as changing over 1,000,000 people's names at the same time would be near impossible to do..

I'de rather tolerate the bots than have the trade limit.. but what can you do? It is over and done with, and though I liked the old RS better, you have to accept the changes in stride.

If I may step in here and say something- comp, you seriously need to get your rates back. You can't base a whole thread on factual information, and lack the rates yourself to prove something. Calculations =/= rates; you are contradicting yourself. You tell others they have to do 1000's of tasks, yet you don't supply data of tasks you did to prove slayer is wrong. Again, you DO need to justify your personal rates if you are going to have a factual debate (debate forum pl0x? :P). If you could care less if people agree or don't agree with you, then it is being ignorant not to succeed to someone else's tests. If everyone disagrees but you, how is it your place to decide that everyone else is wrong, and you are right? much funner... lol :P

No mate, all I am saying is that the content of this thread is similar in structure to a debating thread. Really, I am not condemning you for providing factual information that persuades the people who read this thread. In fact, I would prefer that all threads include as much information and thought put into them as yours. I am just merely saying that with so much information provided and debates occurring, this is more of a debate thread. Not that it matters. I really don't care what forum it is in, phone, and the point I was trying to make isn't very significant at all. Again, I am not insulting your thread/ argument in any way, I was merely questioning if it was placed in the right forum.

Yea, I'll fix the sig thing in a second, thanks. All I really have to say is that normally people don't rant about something being ineffective. I have no idea how to word this- rants arn't usually factual and convincing in nature. Maybe I am not getting the point of this thread- is he ranting that Jagex made slayer a bad skill? That would make sense.

I can't give an expert opinion, but I suggest that you multitask at bandits/orc (by multitask I mean do stuff IRL). Oh- ghostly warriors are good too :D. I've heard it makes you excellent money-go with them.

I used to merchant a lot back before trade laws- it must be very hard to merchant nowadays with people fully aware of the prices? Would 80 def and 70 range be OK for aviansies? Thanks.

I've recently got back into RS, and all my monies are basically gone. I have been barrowing for a while, so I managed to get up to around 500k. My stats are in my sig- what do you think I should do? Note: I am an effective person, so I am not doing slayer because I don't have guthans. Since I am effective, I am looking for ways to make money that arn't hindered by my lack of money. Ideas: -Range fire gaints or something. -hunt to 70- make lots of monies from chins -I hate wc.. don't mention that. -Theive to 60. Though I don't make lots, at least you don't need lots of money to thieve. -Rc to 60 (doing this later) -Mine? CUrrently I am going for 70 fishing- no need to mention that. Thanks in advanced.

I'm just wondering- why rant that slayer sucks? The only reason that I see is that one might have gotten frustrated that they got a bunch of crappy slayer tasks, etc. This does not pertain to you, because you propose a convincing argument against slayer. For the most part, arguments are debates unless both sides are exchanging nonsense. You say that this is settled, over, and done with. Well first of all, to settle something it has to be a debate/ issue first. Second of all, if that rant is done with, why is the thread still up? And I don't see how a rant of this nature could ever be done with- maybe rants on nerfed items could be fixed, but jagex has not significantly changed slayer. When I first read this thread, I felt like to give an opinion that either backs up what you said or opposes it. Well, it sure fells like a debate to me. Let's not get off on the wrong foot comp. Sometimes I come off as pugnacious- but all I really an doing is trying to prove a point.

ur at full hp? lol... Try logging out and in, or eat some food. It is probably a glitch, just unglitch it.

Learn to read. I said I didn't support slayer. I don't support total levels. I was playing the devil's advocate, if you will. I do not understand what you are saying here. How can fun not be a factor and be better? Maybe you should reword that. I also ask you not to disrespect anyone who trains slayer regularly. It is being hypocritical that you say others can do whatever they want, yet you criticize them for reaching a level where they can make a profit. EDIT: This thread is in the wrong section. It should be a debate, not a rant. Why rant at other player's naivety or so you believe?

What was the purpose of you replying to me then? At the end, you just came back and basically said "fine, do whatever you want". If you are going to start picking fights with others, be sure to have a reason to do so. Otherwise you make yourself look like an idiot.

Ok great. Are you saying the only skills worth doing are runecrafting and combat? Slayer is one of the slowest skills to train and firemaking is much faster. Right now the best skills for cash are RC and combat. Now we should only train those skills. 99 attack/99 strength/99 defense/ 99 hits/99 range/99 magic/99 rc and maybe 99 agility ftw. Ummm no that is not what I am saying... I am saying I'de rather train skills that are worthwhile in my view rather than those that arn't... You are awfully defensive man... I am not insulting people who train slayer and firemaking, I am just saying that it is not worthwhile to train them in my opinion. Note the IMO- that doesn't mean it is a waste of time for others. Different people like different things. You must have not gotten the meaning of my post. I was trying to offer a guess at the reason people train slayer despite all its downpoints. The point I was trying to make was that much like firemaking, people train it as it is just another skill. Nobody uses firemaking really, they just like to showboat with their cape. Slayer is just another skill really, and besides the drops has no real purpose currently. If I may name some skills that are good that you forgot to mention: prayer, construction, fletching, hunter, mining, smithing, fishing/cooking, and summoning. And a handful of other OK ones. Also, in case you didn't know, profitable doesn't always have to do with money (directly at least).

ummm 327 I believe? idk it was somewhere in the middle of your post... You pose a great argument, and though I have no time to read 68 pages of material, I can offer my opinion: Slayer offeres a variety of monsters to kill. That being said, me personally would rather partially AFK at some monster to train my stats while doing HW/ reading a book or something. However, the main argument I believe (I don't support, and sorry if this is already been said) is that slayer is just another skill. One could argue why have firemaking as a skill? Why get firemaking up to 99.? If anything, Slayer is more fun than firemaking, and at least you make some sort of profit/ other skills trained. That being said (I like this term :P), no way am I getting any sort of boring/ nonprofitable skill up to 99. Waste of time IMO. Sorry if I am saying things that have already been covered.