First off, dude, I ain't trolling. In fact, I think you missed a boat-load of logic that should be considered. :ugeek: Why, you're dense enough to ask, instead of already being enlightened? Self-Sufficiency can be a very good thing. Look at it this way... Would you rather to have the ability to gain gp easily and save some too, or would you rather have to pay through the nose? For me at least, that's a no-brainer, as the self-sufficient, gp-gaining, and therefore gp-saving path would be the one that I would choose any day. Sure, that doesn't mean I can speak for Bows on this, but I would rather towards showing that keeping one's options open and unlocking stuff that can be done is a very good thing to do. :thumbsup: And BTW, Power Ammys are still used in F2P because we don't have all that fancy P2P junk. Bows could easily make a ton of Diamond Power Amulets in some super-efficient P2P spot, come to F2P, and then sell them. Result? Bows walks off with a [bleep]-load of gp, and F2P PK'ers squabble over who is going to have the most of them. A bit mercenary, but hey, it pays the costs! :twisted: As for Glory Ammys, Bows can just as easily make some after attaining the levels to make, sell them to sub-100-cb P2P'ers, and also walk off with a nice mint there. Put simply, even if high-level combatants don't use them, there's still the option of taking advantage of the lower-leveled ones and gaining gp for moving along with further goals, if not save a ton as well. ;) Hedgehog, I bet right about now, you wish you had thought of all of this. Unluckily, you tried to call me something I'm not, and acted very short-sighted. So, pardon me while I walk off with this extra, logic-loaded victory under my belt. Especially since if Bows couldn't sell what they made for any reason, they could still High-Alchemy it. Which reminds me, Bows would also enjoy all those extra levels and extra exp they would be racking up during all of this, for various reasons stated in earlier posts on this thread by myself and others. :D ~Mr. D. V. "Did you REALLY have to make me resort to a logic-filled text wall, and go 'RS Nerd' on you?!?" Devnull No...just no. There was no logic in anything you posted unless you assume the person you're writing to is a DIY account. Which bows isn't. Killing level three men in edgeville will make more gp/hr than making power ammy's which by the way sell for less than their ingredients meaning you're advice is crap. You're basically telling him to level useless skills in an inefficient way to make less money than he would have killing the lowest level combat mobs in game. /fedmytrollfortheday.