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Well the way I see it people PK because they enjoy it rather then the money it brings in, if its what they like to do for money there's nothing wrong with it, but in my eyes that doesn't really make them a PKer. SO the motivation is your enjoyment. I will. Inflation is natural there is no doubting it. This is not natural. To use a RL example lets just say a new form of fuel was found that was better for the environment and it could be used for cars, electricity, everything. Lets say that this fuel was man made and led to a mass inflation in the countries where it was most concentrated, that would not be natural. That may be a bit hard to comprehend, if it is I am sorry. Basically this new PVP system is unnatural inflation.

Okay so I'm rethinknig what I wish to do with my cash, whether it be go after 99 prayer and keep most of my equipment, buy a Phat or buy an ESS, I'm not sure. To figure it out I need your help with current street prices of all Phat's and the Elysian spirit shield, please post :D Elysian spirit shield: Blue partyhat: White partyhat: Red partyhat: Yellow partyhat: Green partyhat: Purple partyhat: Disk: Egg: Pumpkin:

Would addy bolts still be the best way to go?

Don't forget, when rubbing the key is part B

Okay I plan on using SC hammers all the way, I just want to know what I should make that will cost me around 5m and be relatively quick. Please post.

The first gregre you get is the only one that will work, the karamaja mnoeky one.

RWT was never a criminal offence, it may have been against JaGex's rules, but at no point was it a criminal offence. Granted that it did lead to credit card fraud which is an offence however it never was. So your telling me you've never broken one of the rules around your friends, or a complete stranger for that matter? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth however rules aren't there to be obeyed 100% of the time. It, at the time, was just a more severe rule to break.

Thanks to Ivy, the G.E and the sawmill even if RWT was brought back it wouldn't matter, seeing as Ivy would yield no profit to Macro'ers, which may I point out JaGex did a good job of removing, means that you could still level woodcutting well enough to combat them when you are competing for yews or magics. To right you are. I know it may be annoying not being able to get items, but whats really pissing people off is the inability to level up the skills you need to pay for, the items are just the icing on the cake. As do I. My personal favourite being that the player receiving the kill should get no more then 2x the risk, rather than as I read somewhere up to 65x. Please keep posting your responses.

Thats very interesting Mercifull, I hadn't heard anything about this until just now. Jimmy you raise a valid point. Since this has started the cost of items that are used to train combat and combat related skills have risen ridiculously. My main examples would be Dragon bones and water runes. Dragon bones at over 3.8k each, 99 prayer 12 months ago would have sot me 82m, now over 168. As for water runes, take a look for yourself..

Okay after reading what i believe to be a very great post I have decided to write my own spin off of it. The post I am talking about can be found here. http://www.tip.it/runescape/?times=348 I have to say up until now I have not been bothered one bit by 76k'ing, I believe that if that is how some people want to make money there is nothing wrong with it, however after reading that post my opinion has shifted somewhat. I have to say that I hold nothing against EP'ers, however against JaGex thats another matter. Now I know it would be in the archives somewhere, but I really can't be bothered to spend hours looking for it, the post I am talking about was made by a JaGex mod just before the release of the trade limit. Whilst not being the exact words this was the message, "People that are buying gold for real money are getting ahead in the game of those honest people that work hard for their GP, to combat this we are going to introduce a trade limit that should hopefully put an end to this" I would say good fight, but that does seem a bit juvenile to post so I will just leave it be. I know JaGex is clever enough to have already taken the 'original' wilderness into account for this, however it seems that at the time they didn't see it as a very feasible option for RWT'ers, yet as we have seen it was, enough so for them to have to change it. As this is straying away from my main point I will close this off with JaGex trying time after time to get this right and to once again please the majority of the Runescape cohort, yet it seems they are yet to perfect it, the new blemish, EP'ing. When I look at what EP'ing is accomplishing for players I ask myself, is it really that much different to RWD, I know many of you will say "Well yeah nub it is, I work for my cash" Granted EP'ers must wait that time to first get their EP to 100% and then kill someone until it runs out, this adds about an hour and a half to your free cash. Yes I will call it free because in my eyes thats exactly what it is. I have talked to many friends over this matter, some of who EP themselves and they just laugh at it thanking JaGex for that free 10m a day. Now lets compare, back when RWT was around 1m on Runescape would cost you what, $8 US, I may be wrong but thats because I never payed attention to any of those banners. Now look at EP'ing, you spend your time getting the 100% EP then killing for your cash. When you put them side to side like this, it pretty much just shows that JaGex has simply done a shift, a shift that has pissed a lot of people off. Thanks for trying JaGex, but at the end of the day you are back at square one, although now you have the addition of many annoyed Scapers, RWT'ing and EP'ing whilst being different methods accomplish the same goal, sure almost everyone does now have access to this 'free' money maker, some people are once again getting ahead of the main body of Scapers through a method many would call dishonest. If I had the choice to go back in time and prevent these updates I would. I would stop the removal of the wilderness over an issue like this as I am sure somewhere down the track another issue will pop up. I would remove the trade limit to help combat another uprising problem, 'junk trading'. If I could have things the way they used to be I believe Runescape would be all that much better for it, it may sound selfish but I know many people out there would agree with me, just ask. Well, balls back in your court now, what are you going to do with it?

Not much happened today, went to arma with two guys off the forums, halfway through the trip the better of the two leaves, so i duo with the other guy, we get about 3 kills then leave, i might as well have been soloing >.> I might go back on Wed, i really want an arma hilt at this point lol.

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Nice :) Don't stop at 85 get 94 lol :P

99 Herb, very nice :)

Might wanna change your fail sig, cause it looks like your starting skills> your current skills x1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 :o

Nice man, keep it up :)

God i Love your banner <3:

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lol very nice :)

Yeah I think your right, same principal as it going back to 0 by losing some each day. Fingers crossed it doesn't take to long, cause I want 99 prayer soon :P

we're talking -68m lsp >.> And I cbf going most mass's lol. Because the way i look at it atm, unless its a CS trip and we get A drop, every trip is a loss because I wont get drops to pay for supplies :o

Okay so yesterday I got a LS Saradomin Hilt, and I would say I wouldn't have had more then 100k LSP when I got it. Later that day I went to Bandos and the only drops I got were the CS splits of a shard and a hilt, this made me think that maybe i was on negative lootshare points, but I know a lot of people have said htat you cant be on negative LSP, please post if you know lol.

AMG BIG NEWS! Yesterday was my best RS day every :) Started off with Bandos solos, did 6 trips, nothing so I stopped that. Then I got 99 Str with Mental :) Then I decided to go do some LS Sara to build up LSP as I was only on ~100k LSP. Was 4 man, 1 guy had 4m lsp, 1 guy had 8m, the other guy had just gotten an SS and had almost negative and yeah. You received 1 Saradomin Hilt But wait there's more! Later that night Jimmy asked me to help him out at Bandos, so I went thinknig it was 4 man and everyone was 125+, however when I got there I found out it was 125- except for Jimmy, and it was 5 man. That pretty much made me stop caring becuase with -69m r whatever LSP I was gonig toget no drops,oh wait: You received 4720198 gold as your split of this drop: 1 x Bandos hilt. My first Bandos hilt :))) Here are the pics <3 99 Str Str cape Bandos hilt Shard at Bandos And the biggy :D

Okay getting 99 str today, finally :) But while I wait for Mental to get on to level with me I'll just be soloing bandos in the hope of Tass+. After 99 Str if I'm enjoying bandos ill stick with that, if not off to LS Sara for LSP ;)

Good luck, looks like your going to need it :P I have to say that now you'll probably want to work more on skills it will make it so much more rewarding for you :)