stonewall337

hai

95% ? Sure of that? Proof?

harpies upgrade to furys just as a FYI

I've judged college CX and LD rounds. Can I judge? :rolleyes: You may wish to explain your jargon to the average reader if you're really looking for people to read your posts. If solvency is towards the harms of bots, then status quo had no solvency to begin with. However, net harm in the end is greater due to implementation of aff policy (bots back within days, difficult for legit players to obtain bones), so I'm extremely tempted to vote neg. DA outweighs. If I knew a good way to counter bots I'd have a counter plan but I don't. My point wasn't that SQ was good, rather it was that disad outweighs case, because of bad precedent of inefficacy, harm to legitimate players, as well as the fact that there is no solvency. That being said, if this change were to continue and make it much harder for bots, without harming legitimate players I'd not be opposed-However, all evidence is pointing to the contrary.

Do you really want me to do that????

Concede that, if based on the assumption that frosts w/ bots= 0 KPH and new frosts=reduced KPH compared to KPH before, that post jagex change is good. However, as can be seen now, bots are back just as readily as before, and now its harder for legitimate players. Thats why I think the DA of harming legitimate players over bots outweighs case. No solvency.

Brilliant post, I absolutely agree with everything you said. If there was a "like" button I would use it :P I don't. He completely disregards any aspect of principle, or idiocy/inefficacy/asinine steps on Jagex's part. Frankly, his view, while an opinion yes, is logically flawed and thus inherently not only incorrect but irrelevant. The point isn't that people do frosts for all their cash. Its that Jagex is breaking normal game play to try and fix bots, when they do nothing of the sort, and end up making it even harder for legitimate players. This is the point he completely misses, and that is what makes it a "no link" (as it would be called in debate). And people call me a cynic... I'm not sure you've done any form of competitive debate in high school or college, because your post made absolutely no sense at all. If you really break want to break it down, his post would be two fold. First is defense on the "omg it hurts legit players disadvantage", by saying that the status quo wasn't much a better (a non-unique), so the disad doesn't necessarily outweigh the case (decision to make frosts harder). Second was a kritik of your disad with the impact of player pessimism and how it ruins the game (at least for him). The link is simply players being pessimistic (which is supported by evidence on TIF), and your no link argument is silly and completely warrantless. Also, at the time of writing this post anyway, frosts are completely empty. inb4trololololololololololololol Actually, the K was against TIF, not against the game in general, as proven by the reference to "more elegant RSOF". Thus the K is not relevant, bad for education, (fill in random K bad/ theory arguments here) As well, his status quo was about TIF users specifically, and how the change doesn't effect us since we (TIF users) as a rule don't hunt frosties for the main source of our income. Thus, he is specifically talking about TIF users in the entirety of his post. Its not about the SQ of bots, at least not directly. On a separate note, saying the post-aff world is not much better then the pre-aff/post neg world is pretty bad defense, if you look at it from that standpoint. There is no real impact as to why it is worse, with many benefits of reducing bottting or the profitability of botting. That DA wouldn't stand up, and I for sure wouldn't go for it in the 2NR if I were neg. The K, although flawed, is actually the stronger argument if you accept the premise that being cynical is bad for the game, which I reject as false. I still think his argument doesn't link to the topic. Its a bit convoluted, trying to make it fit into debate style TBH, and its 4:45 AM, so I'm done for now, but its interesting to read your response :P TIF should have their own debate topic or two once in a while lol, it'd be fun. Pre change world> post change world IMO. Changing frosts hurts legit layers more then bots. It sets bad precedent, and its disheartening to see how, even with Jagex actively trying to combat bots, they are ineffective at best, destructive/deleterious at worst.

wat

Heroes of might and magic 6 has harpies.

saru sucks lmfao.

Brilliant post, I absolutely agree with everything you said. If there was a "like" button I would use it :P I don't. He completely disregards any aspect of principle, or idiocy/inefficacy/asinine steps on Jagex's part. Frankly, his view, while an opinion yes, is logically flawed and thus inherently not only incorrect but irrelevant. The point isn't that people do frosts for all their cash. Its that Jagex is breaking normal game play to try and fix bots, when they do nothing of the sort, and end up making it even harder for legitimate players. This is the point he completely misses, and that is what makes it a "no link" (as it would be called in debate). And people call me a cynic...

3pm here but im sick so ima skip my last 2 classes. Doctor appointment 2morrow so I can give a note to my professors lol. might play heroes 6

Jagex can't fix this problem anymore IMO. It is too easy to bot, and too easy to bypass jagex's system.

OBT is [ ] that big a noob.

Bots are a dead horse. Either we accept them as something that doesn't go away, or we keep complaining. Interview was interesting. For some reason, I suspected more top players as being older, not really sure why, maybe its because of slayerbelle.

Anyone play league of harpylegends?

DKS?

But you can't. People are lazy, and people want gratification now. And to those 2 above: Quite often. Also, there are the "get quickly rich" to consider, dicing and dueling. As well thinks like giving claws/torva/divine is still common among good friends.

Yes, do not mention k4ylan. You are free to mention harpy. I'm going to troll the twitter BUT write a letter to the school with your contact details in it and say that it was your twitter trolling.

This guy could be president. "How to solve all wars? keep people from wanting war!" No duh sherlock. Its pure drivel. I mean, c'mon. Saying the IRS should make the tax system harder to cheat and work better is one think. It having any bearing on anything REMOTELY effective or workable is another. duh. I mean, for [bleep]s sake. How many employes to you think jflex has to track all xp over all characters and compare it to any type of workable detection model? What about people who AFK/semi afk, or those effective who ignore others, or those who play 15+ hours a day? Its a simply idiotic idea to even suggest. Would it work if the game had 10k, 50k, 100k players only? Maybe. But think of it even this way. If it takes one person 30 seconds per character per month...thats a crap ton of time. And a hell of a lot of margin of error. And to the above: Normal wildy+free trade > bot problem. I'd rather have RS as it is with the bots now then RS as it was with bots still there just SLIGHTLY less common.

for starters, replace every DYK with a reference to harpies in RS.

alching harpies=effigies=/=lamps?

message an admin.

Actually, against a computer cracking program, more letters is better then numbers and letters, so I hear. princesisthenumberonebomb is harder to crack then pr1nc3s for instance.

BEE TEE DUBS Gona see HP 7-2 tonight at the dollar theatre right near mah uni. Just gona walk there like a boss.