I think he means that each of them is going to crash the other every time they step into the wilderness. Ahh ok. Well, if that is what you actually mean, I'm reasonably sure DF will win. Yes, VR does have more crashing experience, but DF has much more support from other clans that VR doesn't. An example is the fight to happen this weekend, between Corruption and VR. Ordinarily Corr would have no chance, but since DF will probably crash VR Corr stands a very good chance of winning. Well We got Good Ac. Support from other clans? Its not like any of them would dare crashing and Fan Site Forums support don't mean squad when it comes down to PVP ;) What is this "good ac" you speak of? As of right now you know that aside from DK, VR is pretty much on their own. Df will have support from other clans, and VR won't be able to compete. Not Dk L. since when did Dk actually ac? support come on give me a break what are those clan who you say "support" going to do post on RSC woo hoo Df we believe in you? I should have made myself more clear. You still haven't told me which clan will actually support VR ingame, yet DF, Corr, and EoS all crash VR. It's possible VR might pull through but they don't have the same support ingame as DF does. Now I'm not trying to say I like the fact that DF is crashing; I don't like crashing of any kind, be it from DF or VR, and certainly I won't be participating in any crashing whatsoever. All I'm saying is that it seems to me that DF will have an advantage over VR.