Great guide! Definately (sp) 10/10. I just "finished" my third attempt. Here's the scorecard so far- -1st. Ran out of saradomin brews about 7 waves before Jad. a few waves later, I tried to regain my HP using "Rapid Heal" prayer. Put a stapler on my arrow key, it was going to be like 15 minutes. Was doing some homework while waiting, I looked back and my computer and I was logged out. My fault. -2nd. Got to Jad! I could literally hear my heart beating. I got him down to probably 3/4 HP (couldn't see his HP bar, but the healers were out and taken care of and I thought I was doing pretty good damage), but I mis-clicked, hit "Melee protect" instead of "Magic protect", got hit 57 and died. -3rd. I was at the 360 180 90 something wave, and was killing the 360 while the 180 was behind a rock and all the others were dead. Suddenly my character and the 360 stopped firing, and I was like "Oh crap", I waited to see when the "Connection Lost- Attempting to Reconnect" would change to "Loading", but it didn't. It went to the log-in page. I immediatly (sp) put my username and pass in, but it said "Your last session has not ended, please try again" or what-not, and just keeped pressing enter. Finally I was logged in, but I was just outside the cave with ~50 remaining HP. And it was going so smoothly! I had all but 2+1/2 of my 8 saradomin brews (I found 8 to be a much more suitable number. On the first try I ran out yet had over half my restores left) and over half my restore potions.... So, now I'm getting my 2/10 crystal bow back down to a seed at pest control, recharging it, filling up on pots, taking a dip in the springs and retrying. :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: (Oh, and I found that while on the 360 + 180 or 90, running to the wall next the Italy rock (I find the rock on the opposite side to me much better, so I use that one) will make them all line up, stopping the melee's and BATS from attacking you, which lets you pick them off one by one (90's first, so you don't take damage!) with no aditional damage! The only real problem with it is the issue where the 180 spawns next to you)