Dreamtongirl

Ah, i like some of their stuffs. Very punk-y, but classic.

Ah, gee. This is getting old. Arguing the same points over again is tedious. Yes, i like Twilight. I think the characters are good, and the same with the plot and scene/settings. No, you think the book sucks crap and doesn't deserve to be called a piece of literature, despite it being a bestseller. Mmkay, case closed. (Edward waited 90 years, btw.)

"Actually she becomes an immortal vampire and gets married before they have their first night of bruising sex." NOM, no she doesn't.. She gets married before they have "bruising sex", yes. But she doesn't become a vampire before they do. How could she get bruises if she was one, genius. :thumbdown:

aquariusman, there is actually a plot, it's just nearer to the end of the book. And as for characters, there are some very good ones. It's just that you don't find them worthy of writing 4 books about. So, we getcha' - that's your opinion. But the book does have all of those things - whether you like them or not. "Look, sweetheart, I can understand that you like it, and I will not bash you for liking it, but those books were not legitimate literature. Just because it's writing that people read doesn't make it literature. I don't give a flying [bleep] if the entire damn world thinks that Twilight is the most fantabulous piece of [cabbage] ever to come out of an editor's [wagon], that will never change the fact that it is a mere entertainment-based fable. It is not, and never will be, a piece of literature worthy of note beyond it's wildly fanatical fanbase." Don't you sweetheart me, sweetheart yourself, nub. Yes, i do like it. Hence why i'm debating all this stuff. That really is a matter of opinion, you know. All the millions of fans will certainly call it literature, even if you may not. What's something you're obsessed over? I'm sure that people would disagree with you on that.

Yes, Edward is over-protective and he is also a danger to Bella at all times. Well, before she became a vampire anyways. He states both points himself in the books. What is your point, though? Everyone knows that. Also, you can't stop fans being obsessed over something. I'm sure you have, or have been obsessed over something before, (even if you haven't realized it) that has pissed people off extremely and they've wanted you to go die in a hole. You might've thought whatever it was, is/was awesome etc, but others might've thought you're r3tarded and need help. Just like you think about the people who enjoy Twilight and call it a piece of literature. True, but a lot of the time they are.

The van isn't an example of Edward saving Bella from her clumsiness, it's him saving her from an out-of-control van. It's essentially what introduced him to her, and made her realize that something other than being anti-social is up with him. Still, name any place in the book where Bella's own clumsiness puts her in danger. Then name the times Edward has put her in danger: if you go by Edward's point of view, that is every single moment they are together. I remember 3 times when Edward actually saved Bella. The van, whe Bella was followed by the four men, and then the whole deal with the other vampires (His fault by the way). Now, the van and men are actually completely unrealted incidents of misfortune. The vampires could also be considered bad timing, or just Edward's fault. Also, his brother and sister must be very bad at tracking if Bella managed to escape in a washroom. Also, I knew you weren't calling Justin an abusive boyfriend, I was making a joke on your poor use of pronouns. Why read it if I'm going to trash it? Curiosity killed the cat. I also mentioned before that while I was reading the book, I actually liked it. However, my brain was screaming when I bothered to try and think of the book as a novel and not a bed time story. Oh, and if the annoying fan girls at my school are pissing me off with their drooling over the book, I feel obligated to make them realize that the book does not deserve to be called a piece of literature. Mm, i really don't like your arguments anymore.. >___> Bella's plenty clumsy, and would've injured or probably killed herself many times if she didn't have someone watching out for her. Remember when she was with Jake in new moon? And she loses control of the bike and gets a big gash in her forehead? Or the many times she trips and inflicts minor injuries on herself. When she jumps from the cliff, but doesn't think of the water underneath - she would've died if Jake hadn't pulled her out. Yes, Bella is also always in danger of Edward killing her, so what? Everyone knows that. Your point? "your poor use of pronouns." Shut up. -.- Your spelling isn't too great yourself. "I feel obligated to make them realize that the book does not deserve to be called a piece of literature" You're pathetic. They obviously don't care about your opinion on it. You don't like it, yes, we've gathered that already. You want good literature? Go read classics. Other than supposedly LOTR and HP. Go read Wuthering Heights and some Shakespeare. Then you can say your opinions on them.

Ah, he has a point. You don't like either of the series, though? Odd.

Screaming Infidelities - Dashboard Confessional

"You just played right into that spoof ad. Don't worry, Edward is just so AMAZINGLY beautiful and Adonis-like that anything resembling a problem in a real relationship is completely fine when he does it. All relationships are healthy with Edward Cullen!" Woah honey, Itza book remember. :-s Not every girl wants an Edward in their relationship. And not every girl knows they're going to get an Edward in their relationship.

He never meant it. Any of it. All his promises, his every word, his lips pressed gently to mine, his hands carressing my skin in gentle, familiar movements, the shear beauty of it all.. Lies. I only knew that now, as the unwelcomed truth slowly consumed me, inch by inch, tearing through my heart, breaking me. I lowered my head, forcing my feet to carry what was left of my pitiful self to the edge of the cliff face. Chest aching, i examined my awaiting destiny. The dark water below was no longer rough and chilling, but warm and welcoming. I could almost feel it pulling me closer, urging me to become a part of it, to become one. I smiled, tears strewn across my face. My eyes closed. Taking one of my last breaths, i laughed bitterly at myself. At what i had become. At him. At the world. Maybe i was becoming hysterical. I didn't see what it mattered now, as i would soon be at peace. And with that i flung myself from the edge, wind blowing violently through my dark hair, tears drying on my cheeks. I hit the water hard. Like a hammer onto ice. The friendly, clinging water dis-orientated me, dragging me down to it's very depths. Where i belonged. My last thought was of him. 'You never meant it..' __ Help me edit, please? D:

Lmao, dazzling? XD

Hmm, young teenaged female, I suppose? KH should be tazered to death, FF should stick to games (and away from Disney), Negima is ...well, [typical harem Akamatsu for you] and GTO is different, I suppose. Though you make yourself sound a bit insecure by meantioning Nahrootoe is awful off-hand like that. Thats not to say youre wrong, however. Mah, am i that obvious? Ah, i've liked KH since i was little, it's stuck. I also like Nana, thatza girls one pretty much.. Any comment on that? GTO's hilarious, good to watch for a laugh. Ugh, never liked Naruto i'm afraid, idk why, no logical reason.

XD I'd laugh if someone actually did. New question. Has anybody ever said a pickup line that's worked for them?

Cheers, that shall be interesting. "Are you f***ing [developmentally delayed]ed?" Lmfao, she's close. XD

Broken Wings - Flyleaf <3

Let me point you to this quote, or rather, wave it in front of your face with large epilepsy-inducing letters: And can you honestly say that "I like to watch you sleep" is not an extremely creepy thing to say, much less do? And then there's the bruising after sex bit. No, that's not abusive AT ALL. No one disputed that it's a bestseller. As a matter of fact, Twilight was the first book to knock Deathly Hallows off the #1 bestseller spot. But it's not a bestseller on literary merit, not one bit. Which is the scary part. Arguments can't simply be thrown out because the person making them hasn't read the book. Faulty logic, there. Even more faulty is the assumption that he hasn't read the book just because he disagrees with you and so is OBVIOUSLY wrong. As a matter of fact, the literary merit of these books is pretty much undisputable. From a critical standpoint, they're bad. Really bad. I didn't mean Justin was an abusive boyfriend, genius. I had done with the Justin topic. Was talking about Edward there. Okay, bruising after the sex bit isn't really the point. They both agreed to do that, and Edward didn't mean to give her bruises. He'd do anything she wants, and that's what she wanted, so he didn't resist. Plus, he bet himself up for it afterwards. "For the actual argument, Edward is completely over protective. Worry over whether your girlfriend is going to trip and snap her pretty little neck is beside the point; I don't think she injured herself at anytime in the book." Know why? Because Edward was there, funny that! For one example, if he wasn't there in the first book, when the van was coming straight at bella, she would be dead if he hadn't stopped it. It is a love story, also. You should have known that to begin with. So why read it if you're gonna trash it, eh?

Ah, lotza posts. Btw, Artemis series go; 'Artemis Fowl, The Arctic Incident, The Eternity Code, The Opal Deception, The Lost Colony, The Time Paradox.'

If you can bear a Twilight fan recommending books.. XP Yes, i do recommend reading Artemis Fowl series, they're very good. (From a non fan girl perspective)

Well, i'm a pretty typical kid. Nah, i can't agree there. Justin's much worse. And yes, they do exist. *shudders.*

Not really. There's still a book that's coming out by Stephenie Meyer. It's Twilight, but from Edward's perspective. :thumbdown: That sounds about right. -Points to my friends- Wanna fight, Beckehnub? -_-

No, Justin Timberlake is an idol because of his good looks (right?) so its a plausible reason for girls to be attracted to him. Twilight is a book that is 9/10 descriptions of the love bella and edward have, while he is an overprotective and abusive boyfriend. This is OT. All we do is eat glass, criticize stuff, and sleep. We have too much time on our hands, yet you seem to have all the time in the world to read 4 books, each 400~ pages, with barely any plot or literary ability put in to it. It isn't a bestseller book because of the thought and time that was put into it, I'll tell you that. (Note that I was talking/arguing with Wongtong's friend) A little more off-topic, I want to read the new Artemis Fowl book, but I might have read it already. After the eternity code I know I read like 2 other books but I don't know the names or what chronological order they are in. This is Wongtong's friend. Argue time. :D Ewuh, Justin isn't good looking. Plus, he can't sing for crap - sounds like a total girl. He isn't an 'Abusive' boyfriend, at all. He's over protective, yes, but his girlfriend is being followed around by a savage vampire desperately wanting to kill her, and most of the time she could probably injure herself, so duh. Course he's gonna be protective, he wants her to survive. That so bad? It is most definitely a bestseller book, actually. And yes, i do have time to read them. Because they DO have plots. But of course you wouldn't know that because you obviously haven't read them, so therefore you have no idea whatsoever you're really talking about.

Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy, Negima, GTO XD. NARUTO FTL. D:

Eh, I think that Artemis Fowl is still considerably more mature than Alex Rider is. Well, yer, that's cos' Artemis is an evil genius. Or was. I didn't like the last one very much. Also, Alex Rider series are very good, too.

Gangster..? o_O

Hai Beck. Mr. Brightside - The Killers