dragonboytwo

you people r dumb, low levels? u need 65 cooking just to do this that is not low! #-o

ty for all the ideas i will try to space things out a little bit more and i am currently running 20 minute tests and also thank you mister_moocky for telling me about the sig before i got in trouble ---------------------- updates: i have run 20 minute tests i must confess the 1 minute was kinda stupid spaced everything out a little bit more cause of all the complaints, but keep them coming in!

srry about the double posting im kinda new any other suggestions,comments, other?

great guide 10/10 thanks for the tips i finally have free spaces !!

great guide for f2p training, also for more info you can go to my guide on crandor which has good information on lesser demons and moss giants, feel free to use any info you find on it here.[/url also i am currently working on a f2p attack guide with cockroaches included, again great guide, 9/10

10/10 for the f2p section of the guide amazing things, also you might be able to get some things for the Crandor monsters on my guide here. amazing guide for an f2p ranger :thumbsup: =D> =D>

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good idea ackknoledgements to you to! i ran out of things to update so it is as good as it is going to get, unless someone suggests something

f2p definetly needs more bank space, i also think that it wouldnt kill jagex to open up some more member lands to f2p

thanks for the facts ill add them and give you credit :D

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Amazing guide. I tried out the food one. I am not a member :evil: so i cant do the others but this works! Awesome job! =D> =D> Two Thumbs up! :thumbup: :thumbup:

thanks a ton

i finished writing my guide in the beginning guides section, now how do i get it into the general guides section :?: :?: im going nuts with this :wall: :wall: help apreciated

Ya but the special thing is the moss giants hiding spot, but your kinda right thanks for the compliment and i love to update things so what else could it use? oh and i agree on the moss giant thing, Lesser demons are overrated!LOL I just updated all the pics and the table of contents just updated the XP calculations still working on the formula, other than that I just have a few more things to do before I am out of things to do to it any suggestions?

Hi thanks for reading the guide if I have any errors please not them here, also if you have a PSI of your own for the crandor guide please post it here, I love making guides and if you ask me I will make a guide on anything. Except member stuff so just post it here if you want a guide. Also if you think it is a good guide please promote it.

great guide i have used it myself! :thumbsup:

sounds like a great skill little unclear in parts but definetly a great thing to be added

WARNING: This combat guide is for combat level 30+. Disclaimer: All average XP Calculations were done with a Level 60 combat melee. If you want to know your own average XP per hour then go to the XP Calculations section. Crandorian Guide for Melee, Range, Mage, and More! Table Of Contents: 1.0 Introduction 2.0 Attacking Guide 2.1 Combat Levels 30-40 2.2 Combat Levels 40-50 2.3 Combat Levels 50-60 2.4 Combat Levels 60+ 3.0 XP Calculations 4.0 Best Places for melee, range, and mage to train 5.0 How to get to Crandor 5.1 Map of Crandor 6.0 Other Things 7.0 PSI 8.0 Acknowledgements 9.0 Information 1.0 Introduction Crandor, the best thing to happen to training combat since people tried figuring out how to train combat. Crandor is the island used for Dragon Slayer quest and is filled with monsters that most players think they will never see again after completing the quest. However this is not true, Crandor is easily accessible to anyone who wants to get on it. The process of getting there is described below. Crandor is the best place to go to train for any type of attack. It has several creatures for all levels to train on. The lowest level is the skeleton level 25. Next are the hobgoblins level 28. Next are King Scorpions level 32. Then there are level 42 moss giants. Last are the level 82 Lesser Demons. All can be attacked however moss giants are the most range and mage friendly (goes into detail later). 2.0 Attacking Guide: 2.1 Level 30-40: a) Skeletons: Are the lowest level on the island, however they can pack a punch.They also do not give a very good xp gain or a good drop item. Recommended weapon/attack style: Crumble Undead Spell, Salve Ammy(e) (Thanks Pantim) [hide=Look At Monster Stats, XP and HP points given, Item Drops, Average XP/hour, and picture of monsters]Monster HP: 17 XP points given: 68 HP points given: 22 Drop Items: Air runes, Bucket, Earth rune, Iron dagger, Iron ore, Mind rune, Uncut emerald, Bones (100%), Chaos runes, Fire runes, Iron axe, Iron scimitar, Nature rune, Uncut ruby, Bronze arrows, Coins, Fire talisman, Iron Mace, Iron Sword, Steel Arrows, Uncut sapphire, Bronze Bar, Cosmic Runes, Iron arrows, Iron medium helm, Law runes, Uncut diamond, Water runes. Average XP: 1 minute: Attack/Defense/Strength: 204 XP/Min Hitpoints: 66 XP/Min 20 minutes: Attack/Defense/Strength: 4080 XP/20 Min Hitpoints: 1320 XP/20 Min 1 hour: Attack/Defense/Strength: 12,240 XP/hour Hitpoints: 3,960 XP/hour Picture: How To Get There: [/hide] B) Hobgoblins: Are much like skeletons in the way of xp gain and drop item. They however cannot hit you very high. So they are not good training in the sense of xp, unless you are under level 40. Recommended weapon/attack style: Defensive and Stab Attacks. [hide=Look At Monster Stats, XP and HP points given, Item Drops, Average XP/hour, and picture of monsters]Monster HP: 29 XP points given: 116 HP points given: 38 Drop Items: Body runes, Coins, Steel dagger, Uncut sapphire, Brass necklace, Cosmic runes, Iron sword, Law runes, Steel longsword, Uncut diamond, Water runes, Chaos runes, Fire runes, Iron dagger, Uncut emerald, bones (100%), Crossbow, Goblin mail, Nature runes, Uncut ruby. Average XP: 1 minute: Attack/Defense/Strength: 232 XP/Min Hitpoints: 76 XP/Min 20 minutes: Attack/Defense/Strength: 4640 XP/20 Min Hitpoints: 1520 XP/20 Min 1 hour: Attack/Defense/Strength: 13,920 XP/hour Hitpoints: 4,560 XP/hour Picture: How To Get There: [/hide] 2.2 Levels 40-50 c) King Scorpion:Nothing really good about King Scorpions. Bad things are that they have no particular weakness to weapons. Also they have no drop item, not even bones! So it is probably not a good monster to train on. [hide=Look At Monster Stats, XP and HP points given, Item Drops, Average XP/hour, and picture of monsters]Monster HP: 31 XP points given: 124 HP points given: 41 Drop Items: None. Average XP: 1 minute: Attack/Defense/Strength: 248 XP/Min Hitpoints: 82 XP/Min 20 minutes: Attack/Defense/Strength: 4960 XP/20 Min Hitpoints: 1640 XP/20 Min 1 hour: Attack/Defense/Strength: 14,880 XP/hour Hitpoints: 4,920 XP/hour Picture: How To Get There: [/hide] d) Moss Giants:The best monster to train on that is on Crandor. They also have a great XP count!The Moss Giants are a good level for all types of attackers to train on. They drop bones for prayer and a low to medium, and rarely a high, drop item. And they have good xp ratings too! Recommended weapon/attack style: Fire Spells and also slash attacks. [hide=Look At Monster Stats, XP and HP points given, Item Drops, Average XP/hour, and picture of monsters]Monster HP: 60 XP points given: 240 HP points given: 80 Drop Items: Chaos runes, Cosmic runes, Steel bar, Uncut diamond, Air runes, Nature runes, Steel Kiteshield, Uncut emerald, Big bones (100%), Coal, Earth runes, Mithril square shield, Steel medium helm, Uncut ruby, Black square shield, Coins, Iron arrows, Law runes, Magic staff, Mithril sword, Steel arrows, Uncut sapphire. Average XP: 1 minute: Attack/Defense/Strength: 240 XP/Min Hitpoints: 80 XP/Min 20 minutes: Attack/Defense/Strength: 4800 XP/20 Min Hitpoints: 1600 XP/20 Min 1 hour: Attack/Defense/Strength: 14,400 XP/hour Hitpoints: 4,800 XP/hour Picture: How To Get There: [/hide] 2.3 Levels 50-60 You should Try to stick to Moss Giants, Lesser Demons are still too high of a combat level for your combat level. 2.4 Levels 60+: Again Moss Giants are a good source for xp again. However you might want to move on to something a little more challenging. e) Lesser Demons: Are the last monsters on Crandor and are the toughest. They are level 82 and can prove it. They can hit very high and will kill you very easily. Be prepared! They however are the second monster on the list of the most xp given, they also have some very good drop items. Recommended weapon/attack style: Magic and Crush attacks. Also the sword Silverlight will work, however it is not as affective. [hide=Look At Monster Stats, XP and HP points given, Item Drops, Average XP/hour, and picture of monsters]Monster HP: 80 XP points given: 320 HP points given: 106 Drop Items: Black kiteshield, Chaos runes, Gold ore, Mithril square shield, Rune full helm, Steel medium helm, Uncut emerald, Coins, Iron kiteshield, Mithril chainbody, Ashes (100%), Fire runes, Jug of wine, Mithril bar, Rune medium helm, Steel full helm, Uncut Sapphire, Steel longsword, Uncut diamond. Average XP: 1 minute: Attack/Defense/Strength: 240 XP/Min Hitpoints: 79 XP/Min 20 minutes: Attack/Defense/Strength: 4800 XP/20 Min Hitpoints: 1580 XP/20 Min 1 hour: Attack/Defense/Strength: 14,400 XP/hour Hitpoints: 4,740 XP/hour Picture: How To Get There: [/hide] *As you can see the xp gains for me are smaller on some of the smaller monsters however the moss giants are the best because they give the best drop items. XP Calculations The Formula for XP calculations is below, you only need to know the monsters HP(look above) and about how many you can kill in a minute, round down. For hour calculations: Creatures hit points x kills per minute x 4 x 60 For minute calculations: Creatures hit points x kills per minute x 4 4.0 The Best Place For Melee, Range, and Mage: Is once again the Moss Giants. The location of the Moss Giants is very convenient. They of course can be attacked by melee, however there are coal and adamant rocks to hide behind if you are a mage or ranger. Best of all is that there is only one disadvantage for rangers and mages and that is that the Moss Giants will not attack you automatically like they would with melee fighters. Moss Giants are located here: 5.0 How to get to Crandor go to karajama you will find yourself in the Karajama/Crandor dungeon you will then find yourself on Crandor enjoy! 5.1Map Of Crandor 1. Location of Lesser Demons 2. King Scorpions are around, also has a mining spot of 3 gold rocks 3. Hole down to Crandor/Karajama dungeon 4. Location Of the Moss Giants, skeletons are located to the east, also a mining spot with 3 adamantite and 3 coal rocks 5. (If you have completed Dragon Slayer) The ruined Lady Lumbridge 6. Mining spot of 7 mithril rocks 7. Hobgoblins and King Scorpions hang around this mining spot with 7 coal and 4 mithril rocks 6.0 Other Things: -There are several mithril, adamant, and coal to mine on the island and in the dungeon areas and almost never is there someone else down there mining but the nearest bank is in Draynor Village and that's on the mainland! But if you are desperate... -To complete the Dragon Slayer quest you have to use the boat to get to the island you can't use the shortcut -One of the most common random events of Crandor is a shade appearing and attacking you, they have a shade bottom and a shade top so you might want to stop and fight them. They will appear when you bury big bones -You can spend loads of time on PVP worlds on Crandor, just training on monsters and nobody is around to kill you so you can get more item potential -If you have a good fishing level use it! When you are out of food simply go through the Crandor/Karajama dungeon tunnel to Karajama and use the fishing spots there. Catch what you need then cook it and go back and fight Be sure to bring wood and tinder box! -There are tons of Lesser Demons and skeletons in the Crandor dungeon 7.0 PSI* -I do something called an MG hunting trip. I fully load up on lobsters and then go attack Moss Giants (MG) on Crandor. As I eat food the MG's will drop items that I pick up. Once all of my food is gone I use the home teleport and then go to the G.E. to sell all of my items. I usually spend 10k and get 15-17k by selling all of the items. I also usually get 2 or 3 levels. I use this for attack(melee), range, and mage it works great! -Silverlight does not work very well on the Lesser Demons, it hits less than a normal steel sword would. -Mithril swords, Black square shields, and different kinds of runes are the most popular drop for Moss Giants. -Going on a hunting trip to kill anything, always works better if you have a buddy with you. -Hunting parties make all the difference with Moss Giants, One melee, one range, and one mage. The melee and ranger give mage all the runes that they get, the ranger and the mage give the melee all the weapons and armour they get, the mage and melee give all the arrows they get to the ranger. It all works out pretty well. -The Giant Skeletons outside of the Green Dragon is the best of Crandor. (Thanks Pantim) * PSI is player submitted info. When ever I personally, or someone else has something to say I put it here. I only put it here if it seems to be true, works really well, and I have tried it out myself. 8.0 Acknowledgements http://www.tip.it/runescape/ for being a wonderful website that I have used many times to help with in-game questions that I have had Pantim for the information about the skeletons on where and how to beat them Chazzycaz for recommendations on the XP gain ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Guide Made by Dragonboytwo. If you have a comment or suggestion please post it! Also if you would like me to make another guide I will happily do so, you just have to PM me or post it here, I will do it on anything from quests, to skills, to guilds and more! Just post or PM me and I will make it. Will do anything but member stuff. I Hope this guide helped you! [stats][/stats]