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I'm better than you because my sentence is shorter, but the post itself is longer :D! Congrats. My former and latest Runescape account is Vardit, a skiller ;).

I don't know why...but I have a feeling your Natalie has some secret motive... I could easily be wrong though, it's just a hunch...sort of. I'm glad things will work out either way :). Rpg- I guess there's no reason to do it on PM when others could use my advice to their own gain, so here's some tips: The thing with meeting stranger women, is that you do not want them to know you're interested. I heard of many guys simply approaching stranger women and telling them they're interested. That's just wrong, you "reveal your secret card" right off, lose the mystery, and most importantly, you pose no challenge. Why would a lady take your offer if she knows it's so easy? If she knows all she has to do is say 'yes'? (And considering it's a hot one, she probably has a variety of men offering about the same thing.) So now that we're clear you don't want to tell her you're interested, what do you do instead? Well, you have a few choices, but I'm going to go with just one for now. Ask for help :). Whether it be asking her to tell you which clothes fit you best (if you're in a clothes shop). asking her to help to pick a present for your mom, or anything else that comes to mind. Ofcourse this does not fit everywhere, and if you need some other options for different places I'd list one or two more later, but it works where it works :). By the way, you don't want to ask "yes or no" questions, as these tend to get things stuck, better ask something without an easy answer. Anyway, after a while of her helping you, you should simply reveal something about yourself. It can be anything, preferably something she could relate to, like an embarrasing moment or something like that. The reason you do that is that, again, you want to go forward with the girl without revealing your interest in her. What goes here is sort of a mirror-effect. When she listens and relates to your story, she'd most probably reveal something about herself, after which you're no longer total strangers. The reason I gave embarrasment as an example, is that it makes things easier to "laugh about together", but other stories could fit just as well. Now that you're no longer strangers you can go on and talk a little, and then simply start using any (useful and known to work) method and get her number at the end. Tango could be good here, some others it would take atleast an hour to list, but I gave you the start, and you should be okay from here :). Just to sum up, there are 3 stages- 1. Asking for help. 2. Revealing something about yourself, telling a story, etc. In return you're very likely to be granted the same treatment. 3. Hit on her :P.

Same here. <_< Same. Same. And it's really starting to suck since I'm starting college classes in the Fall. Same....

Today was such a productive day I don't even remember everything I did :). I even managed to slip in 4 hours of sleep...somehow :P! Woah, my life is just 1 big smiley :D!!

Zionism is a political movement that soldified in the 19th century as antisemitic feelings in Europe were building and Jews wanted to go back and reclaim a nation of their own centered around Zion, the temple mount, which is a basic run through of Zionism. Some Jews do not support Israel for specific reasons like for instance it is not ruled by a king of the line of David therefore it is not a legitimate state of Israel. Other Jews actually have morals and feel bad about killing and containing a native population that the land belonged to. I feel personally offended by this. Are you implying any Jew that supports Zionism doesn't have morals? Also, most religous Jews that don't support Zionism do it because, supposedly, Israel should not be re-built until the Days of the messiah. You always seem to forget that tiny detail of HOW these lands were conquered. Through war, and not with the intent to conquer land, and not war Israel even initiated (again, except for the Six Days War). 1. US asked, not forced. 2. You're misinformed, Israel withrawed from there on it's own after the war of October. 3. I'm afraid the Golan Heights are going to stay Israel's. Remember that Israel is not obliged to give up the land. *You mean so that huge amounts of weapons won't be sent there and used on Israeli citizens? Or do you mean so that Israel could send supplies over there? I was saying Jews who aren't Zionists actually follow their religion. I'm sorry I don't stand up to your "high standards" then. That's like saying (if Netanyahu agreed to stop building in EJ) that Israel was forced to do that. If Israel didn't agree to get out of Sinai back then- that's exactly what was going to happen. Yes, the USA-Israel relations would probably cool off a bit (just like today with Israel not agreeing to some of the USA's demands), but the bottom line is that Israel is an independent country by any means, and has it's red lines which it would never cross. Sinai was not a red line. I can tell you the Arab world, at least the way I see it, can't afford to claim it didn't win. Oferet Yetzuka in Gaza was most porbably not a victory by the Hamas (considering the number of people hurt on each side, less than 20 on Israel's side, etc)- Israel retreated from Gaza on the basis of Hamas' promise to stop shooting missles, and it did not. The Arab world (Gaza, Syria, and some others) celebrated Israel's defeat, after Arab leaders claimed they're glad Israel lost. I leave it for you to decide what happend in Gaza. And the reasons you give yourself aren't necessarily Israel's reasons. Israel did withdraw. Call it whatever you like, but the Golan Heights are legally Israel's and are going to stay that way. Your Sodom example is highly misfitting. The majoritiy of Israel's people is Jewish-secular, and the government itself is also Jewish-secular, the Bible does not dictate what Israel should or shouldn't do. The Gazans are also not "evil" (like the Sodomites), but enough of them want Israel's downfall, and too many would act on that wish. You call it convenience, I call it safety. I already confirmed I relate to the Gazans and as I put it- "can't bear to even think what their lives are like, but the only true solution I could ever see feasible is peace."

Alright, I'm glad we understand each other now :). Also, just so you'd know, I'm very much into politics, and as I try to form my opinion on political issues, I do my best at hearing each opinion and it's reasoning, even ones I don't agree with.

I understand everything you say, I just think you're wrong. In order to make sure beyond doubt we understand each other, I'll elaborate as much as possible. Right here is why you can't understand me, and you keep saying we aren't discussing opinions. There is ALWAYS another clock. Just because you don't believe in what that clock says doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Thinking that everyone believes something that you do is quite frankly stupid. You are asking me to check out other sources, you can't seem to drop the whole Israel thing for one second and see I am talking about way more than just that. The reason I say things like "I don't think even subjective sources would tell you otherwise" is that I live here, and know what each side thinks of what. I most probably would know if anyone denied Israel did not initiate certain wars, but because I can't be sure, I let this argument go on, as I thought you know of certain opinions that contradict the facts. After saying you're talking about the macro, and not Israel specifically, I believe it's safe to say you don't know of such opinions, only believe they exist, right? Well, they most probably don't exist, and if they do, on a very, very tiny scale. The countries initiating the wars don't deny doing so, and I don't see why anyone should. The reason I kept bringing up the sources, is that Wikipedia's policy is to be as objective as possible, and only present facts. You can more than usually use Wikipedia's word as the most objective one, and since (as I just mentioned) I thought you knew of some people thinking otherwise, I kept bringing Wikipedia- To explain that even if someone does think otherwise, they're just wrong. Because an objective source says otherwise. The terrorist may think Israel isn't deserving of it's land or permission to have a country, he may think every war against Israel is just, and he may think not enough wars against Israel have occured, but he most probably doesn't deny Israel is not the one to initiate those wars (he'd probably even be proud of it, you know, that his side is the one acting on "what's right"). There's an objective one. On this very specific issue, there aren't 2 sets of facts (I don't think there are anywhere, but let's drop that). No one, atleast on a large scale, believes otherwise. I hope we understand each other now...

I'm better than you becaus you're new to the forums :D.

You keep brining up opinion. There's no opinion here, we're only discussing facts. The armies of Eygept, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, and the Arab legion all rushed to war against Israel and INITIATED the Independence War, for instance. And no one denies that, everyone knows, understands, and admits, this war wasn't initiated by Israel. A perspective is a matter of opinion. We're not discussing opinions. No, I used the analogy as means to explain wars initiated by X, are facts, not opinions. In other words, the sun rising is not saying the war started, it's saying it's a fact, just like the known facts of who started which war. I'm not even sure there's anyone with another clock, I never heard anyone deny which war was initiated by whom. Also, it's not "my" clock, any objective sources would tell you what I'm saying is a fact. I don't even think subjective sources would tell you otherwise. In order to stop that pointless argument- Can you show me proof of that other guy claiming that? I'm not even sure the other guy ever said anything about his clock... No, I think anyone that denies the facts is stupid or lying. I don't think any source support other opinions, frankly. Please, use a different objective source (hint: Wikipedia), and see for yourself. Again, not discussing opinions here...

I'm trying really hard to make you understand, what you consider FACTS, not everyone considers FACTS. If anyone in the world doesn't consider it a fact, he's simply wrong (and frankly, I never heard of anyone claim certain wars were initiated by someone else, I'm pretty sure we're arguing over nothing). I don't think anyone even discussed "B", everyone knows "A" is what started the war PHYSICALLY. And you don't even need to count on my, supposedly biased, claim, go to other objective sources and find out I'm speaking the truth. Wikipedia could be a good start right there. Perhaps, but no one would deny the sun rose. Again, the "master clock" could help you find out who really was right about the exact time the sun rose, but no one would deny the sun rose. Again, I'm pretty sure we're arguing over nothing, as I never heard of anyone denying who started each specific war. I have heard of people arguing over the reasons the wars started, or why they should/shouldn't have, but never ever have I heard anyone argue who initiated the wars.

No. You lock that **** down. All her bases belong to you. Well, the thing is she's incredibly shy. She might be uncomfortable with that is what I guess I was thinking. If she's shy, that's even more of a reason not to wait for her to make the first move...

Yeah, I think it's pointless too...

Umm... It's not my opinion, it's facts. Just like the sun shines every day is a fact. You can check those facts, and validate those facts, again, and again. I don't think anyone at all denies what war was initiated by whom. Go to Wikipedia and check it if you want. Also, I can tell you myself that Israel had been, and currently is, doing things wrong. I don't refuse to believe Israel could have done anything wrong, I know it has, and is. Are you legit?

There is an argument over everything. I don't get where you're coming from. Wars are always initiated by one side, they can't be initiated by both sides at the same time. The exact date. hour, and place are noted for every attack, every time war initiates. Again, I don't think the countries themselves would deny the fact that they attacked first, and I have no idea why anyone would claim otherwise (unless, ofcourse, they're lying). Who gets to decide what counts as an attack? One side can say oh well they attacked us here and then. But the other side can say well look they did this here and then which we think was an attack. Wow, are you even serious? If you are, then no offence, but I think you don't even realize what going to war means. Wars against Israel were initiated by one side, the other side physically went to war against Israel, and Israel reacted.

There is an argument over everything. I don't get where you're coming from. Wars are always initiated by one side, they can't be initiated by both sides at the same time. The exact date, hour, and place are noted for every attack, every time war initiates. Again, I don't think the countries themselves would deny the fact that they attacked first, and I have no idea why anyone would claim otherwise (unless, ofcourse, they're lying). Every war (in the world) is triggered by 1 side, no one but fools and liars would claim other wise, and I can say that with great confidence because I know the truth. I really have absolutly no idea where you're coming from, no one denies the noted facts.

I have no idea what you mean by that. Wars were physically started by other countries around Israel, there's historical proof for that, I don't think the countries themselves would deny that. Israel just did not attack first, there's no argument over that...

Are you talking about physical war? There's obvious proof no wars were initiated by Israel, except for the Six Days War. I don't think anyone would claim otherwise, and if they do, they're lying...

"Zionism (Hebrew: ציונות‎, Tsiyonut) is an international nationalist political movement that, in its broadest sense, calls for the existence of a sovereign, Jewish national homeland. Since the establishment of the State of Israel, the Zionist movement continues primarily to support and advocate on behalf of the Jewish state." No, you're not mistaken. Please do remember that Israel never went to wars in order to conquer or win land, throughout all of the Israeli wars, Israel always went to war because it was attacked first (and had to protect itself), minus the Six Days War. That's what war brings, I'm afraid. And any Arab staying in aland conquered by Israel , received permanent Israeli residency. If you meant the illegal settlements, then I addressed that issue endlessly. If you still wish to get a response, PM me. You sir have just contradicted yourself on a huge scale, but I won't hammer it too much because I myself have fallen victim to my own bad wording. I didn't contradict myself, you just did not read it properly. I said Israel never went to war in order to conquer land, not that it never conquered land. In other words, Israel went to wars in order to protect itself, and during those wars, conquered land. Also, I'm a girl :). I apologize for calling you sir then. But if land was conquered then it wasn't really defensive. Also no other country would get away with the stuff that Israel pulls. Really? Why not? Israel did not initiate those wars, it got attacked and reacted. When, in war, you can move forward, you do.

The Knowing. It's [cabbage]. :thumbup: You're right! And yeah, it is [cabbage]...

I'm better than you because if I were you I'd buy her something healthy :D!

I think the new demo tutorial is great. If I were a new player, I'm pretty sure I'd have that urge to go on a lot. Also, the narrator had a female voice- is that for everyone, or depending on your gender (I created a female character)?

Does anyone have any idea what movie I was talking about? I can't remember the name, and I'm getting a bit curious, lol.

For some reason, this picture reminded me of that movie...umm... I forgot it's name. The one where Nicholas Cage gets a time capsule from his kid's school, and finds out it reveals information about major death events that happend, and that are about to happen.

"Zionism (Hebrew: ציונות‎, Tsiyonut) is an international nationalist political movement that, in its broadest sense, calls for the existence of a sovereign, Jewish national homeland. Since the establishment of the State of Israel, the Zionist movement continues primarily to support and advocate on behalf of the Jewish state." No, you're not mistaken. Please do remember that Israel never went to wars in order to conquer or win land, throughout all of the Israeli wars, Israel always went to war because it was attacked first (and had to protect itself), minus the Six Days War. That's what war brings, I'm afraid. And any Arab staying in aland conquered by Israel , received permanent Israeli residency. If you meant the illegal settlements, then I addressed that issue endlessly. If you still wish to get a response, PM me. You sir have just contradicted yourself on a huge scale, but I won't hammer it too much because I myself have fallen victim to my own bad wording. I didn't contradict myself, you just did not read it properly. I said Israel never went to war in order to conquer land, not that it never conquered land. In other words, Israel went to wars in order to protect itself, and during those wars, conquered land. Also, I'm a girl :).