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Change your forum name lol.

Howbadisbad, that still doesn't justify the reason for using skillers to gain extra experience. A skiller is basically useless in normal play, but they make the monsters much easier, AND you get more exp from them. If Jagex really wants to do something about free play exp, why not just cut down the experience on everybody? And I really want members. I really wish Jagex sets up an Asian company for the MUCH larger audience.

Obviously you SHOULD open all rooms before exiting. Why would you give up all that extra exp for a floor? Also, kill everything except dead ends, unless low on food. People don't realize that you don't have to kill ALL monsters for the +10 level mod bonus.

Finished the cryptic clue fest II today. Got a nice outfit set. :thumbsup: Also, *points to forum name*

The costume looks rather nice. =3 But as with all other holiday stuff, I destroy it. There is no need for me to have those items.

I'm FINALLY able to get rid of the number in my name. :thumbup:

I find it to be more efficient to do a bit more preparation than level 90 on free play, so I can actually get the most out of membership. For example, 100 combat for the ability to use Duradel. 2 99 stats for a trimmed skillcape, one of the best capes in members. 70 attack/defense for whips/barrows. 99 strength for an advantage with slayer. 93 dungeoneering for all occult floors. Millions and MILLIONS of cash for member activities. And of course all the levels needed for quests. And you can buy one off the internet? Cool, never knew that. But I'm still not counting on that to get membership as I don't really trust internet deliveries.

When you bind something in f2p, you will get an option to destroy members items. Which equals GF prom 2h and 125 sagg arrows.

Once again, stupidity arises in the forums with a bunch of "be grateful f2p gets stuff" responses... Can both of you not read? This isn't about updates, it's about how higher levels are the ONLY ones penalized. And:

Well just as I thought. The Cryptic Clue Fest II crashed the forums AGAIN. <_< Seriously why can't people just go to RSWiki and find out the answers instead of crashing the forums here?

Yes you can. I did the same last year as well, lol.

The only first "kiss" that I had was when this girl randomly comes up and whispers to me "You wanna know a secret?". So I agreed and let her whisper in my ear. Next thing I know, she kisses me on the cheek and runs away. :blink: Haven't had a *real* girlfriend yet, and I don't think any of my classmates has REALLY kissed somebody else before.

I had that "fake brown door" glitch in a medium dungeon too, before Telmo's 120 dunge L

The Asian fanbase is larger than many people think. Although I'm not exactly sure of famous players in Asia, I'm certain that there's probably quite a lot of Asian gamers out there. Hopefully we'll be able to shout out to Jagex about this situation. ASIAN POWER!!! :thumbsup:

About the payment thing, sure South Africa is one thing, but there is no reason to ignore it in Asia. :mellow: And Jagex logic has really gone down the drain nowadays. I thought Jagex said free play is not a demo? Now they're practically PRESSURING free players to become members. ;\ Not that I'm pressured, but it's just kinda sad. Also I re-read the Jagex post, and it looks like they will tune down free play experience even further. Cap for all f2p plz? Better than the 90+ community which is the majority of f2p.

Well at the very least, Jagex should set up a Runescape outlet in Asia so I can actually BUY MEMBERS. Even if it's just membership cards I'm happy. It's that simple Jagex, why be so racist towards us?

Yay. I have officially done my ranting here. Really Jagex, your logic has gone off the charts. And the lack of Asian Runescape servers = FML. :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

So, now we got the occult floors. Hooray, and it's members only. I was suspecting that free players won't have an experience cap anymore. What did the Jagex mods respond instead? (?15,16,491,61533213]Source.) Ok, I understand this is all Jagex logic, but I have some big arguments that make this flawed. - Free players are limited to tier 5 items, while members get up to tier 11 (with familiars too!). If you actually played a 5:5 large on free play, the monsters are still within the 80s-120s range, and they appear CONSISTENTLY. So Jagex, you are telling me that free players with tier 5 weapons can kill level 120+ monsters faster than members with tier 11 weapons and familiars? Also free play's best healing food is short-finned eels (120), while members' best healing food is cave morays (250), and can be boosted with potatoes and skinweavers. Members can also use curses such as deflects, soul split and turmoil, while free players may only protect pray. Members also have poison to help, potions to boost, and VENGEANCE!!! How could this not be ignored? - Members now get a prestige up to 47, while free play still gets the usual 35. You're telling me a team of free players can get MORE exp per hour with 35 prestige than a team of members with 47 prestige? Without the cap, I'm sure members are able to get more experience. Also, with warped floors out, members can get prestige up to 60, almost TWICE the amount of free play! Tell me Jagex, does it seem logical to limit free play to that level anymore? - There are member doors and puzzles in the way, which not only cuts down on bonus room experience, but also base and prestige! Members are able to make potions to not only aid them in combat, but also to help them get past skill doors/puzzles that they cannot do! Free players cannot do anything about that, and they can't do ANYTHING about member doors either. With the cut down experience with member doors, is it still logical to halve the exp rates for high levels? - Members have class rings. CLASS RINGS!!! I cannot stress this enough. This is what really sets apart free players and members. Members can hit 700+ with promethium 2hs with even a moderately high berserker ring, and it can be used for ranged, magic, and even non-combat related things too! That helps members kill the monsters way faster than they used to be. - Members also have tons of slayer drops, including the much wanted shadow silk hood which helps reduce damage. In many cases this makes the rooms much easier, as they can just bypass these monsters without being attacked. Sure, the occasional mage will deplete your effects, but everyone can just range them to death. That reminds me, the hexhunter bow is a very powerful weapon towards magic species. - This probably doesn't relate to all of the above, but this cap is applied to only players with 90+ combat. Yes, ONLY those. This makes lots of free players try to find skillers to help get them normal exp. Aside from that, skillers are absolutely awful for pretty much anything in dungeoneering. Any maxed player can negate the need of a skiller. Even a moderately high level overtakes the advantages of a skiller. With the infinite money trick via air runes gone, skillers now have absolutely no place. Please Jagex, if you're going to punish free play, at least punish everyone, not just the high levels. Punishing the high levels negates the advantages of, well, being HIGH-LEVELED. You see what I did there? Yeah, that's it. Those are the main points I wanted to address. If Jagex still keeps all this crap when warped floors are released, I am going to be so pissed... Also, don't give me the "get members" crap. Actually, that is just what I want, so I can enjoy the benefits of the full game. But I am going to shout this out, right now... HOW THE [bLEEP] DO I PAY FOR [bLEEP]ING MEMBERSHIP IN [bLEEP]ING ASIA?!??!!!?!! Ok, I'm done ranting. Flame me all you want. Go ahead. Discuss.

Oh my god. That puzzle is THE most annoying puzzle ever. <_< Took me like 5 minutes to lure just one ferret. It's not so annoying when it gives you a smaller room though.

No no, I'm not a member yet. I would become one, but it's not that easy to pay here... God damn it I wanna be a member and play occult floors already. And quest. And skill. And make epic moneys. And... you get the idea. But in other news, my friend bought a 90-day membership card and used it on Singha2002! I'll be playing on members on it again for a while.

Ah, so THAT'S why you were skulled with 0 pray. 6 more levels to go!

Yep spears are free play weapons in Daemonheim. You didn't know that? :mellow: So yeah, stick with fractite spear + platebody.

Normally I would suggest against rc gloves, but in your case it is strongly encouraged. 1 pair of air rc gloves from 10 rcing can last all the way to 30 (from there do earths with gloves). If you have any other questions with dungeoneering, feel free to ask me! I'm currently creating a dungeoneering guide, and all your questions are appreciated. I'll answer them as well as possible.

First off, get your runecrafting higher. No reason not to rank it. To answer the actual question, it really depends on how you train it. If you're a soloer like me, it can take 30-40 hours of training to reach 40k tokens. If you team, you can reach it in less time.

Summoning, as not only is it a good combat aid, it helps with your noncombats too. After that get herblore, then prayer.