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That is my point - you can replace the "skillers" with players with really good stats, so they can actually contribute to the dungeon. Skillers are fail. PERIOD.

It seems like the more difficult the dungeon is, the better chance you will be awarded with tier 11 items. However, the chances for receiving the items is still random. Who knows, maybe you'll get the sagittarian longbow solo. ;)

You should also get the scroll of efficiency too, it helps save your bars while smithing items. ^^ And I just find banking then fming later more efficient.

Well if it really is like that, then I'll just start herb farming right away. Just got 38 farming so I've included toadflax in my allotment run. Better than ranarrs imo because of the low seed cost. Thank you!

Do I really need to emphasize how awful skiller dungeoneering is? First off, since he's only level 3 and can't even kill a level 1 monster in dungeoneering, he just sits there. Doing nothing. Hooray. Second, you may argue that skillers are useful for doing skills that you can't. Well you're just contradicting yourself because: - in free play it's much more likely to find someone who can do everything in a dungeon (excluding skill door/puzzles) than in members. And most likely these people will be the common average player (like me). Come on, is it THAT hard to get 60+ or even 40+ all? - if you wish to skill in a dungeon AT ALL, you're just kidding yourselves. Not only does it waste time when you could be contributing to finishing off the dungeon, but armor is pretty much useless in free play. No lie. I've teamed EVERY boss without armor and I survived against all of them at least once. - most skillers will have very bad skill levels compared to most of us free players here. Please, name one skiller, JUST one, that has 65 rc and the ability to make all tier 5 stuff. Third, do skillers really reduce the difficulty of the dungeon? With one person "out sick", or as we call it, leeching, that makes up for the easier monsters. Since he can't do monsters at all, it would be impractical for him to help out with the boss. Finally, because most skillers only have 100 LP, skill doors and puzzles are the bane of skillers. One mistake when doing puzzles = death. Literally. And most skillers will be AFK so it would be really hard for them to get them to do mime/switch. Lack of groupstone/gatestone is also a fail. So, think twice before you think skiller dungeoneering is any good. Or any "fun". (No, extra experience does NOT count.) If you really wish to dungeon effectively, join some clan chats! Steph's clan is an excellent place for this.

Huh. REALLY. For all we know, that J Mod is joking around. I think most of us can confirm Tip.It is the best fansite of all, period. ;)

So I should put f1-32 on complexity 1 for members then? Also, going to go way out of my way and devote another section to skiller training, and how I suggest against it.

That's why I always suggest against dunging with skillers - too much hassle and complication involved. Jagex really, really needs to fix the skiller problem. So we're getting MORE exp with 1 or more (or 4, in the case of top f2pers) leeching in the main room doing nothing? This basically defeats the purpose of what dungeoneering is really for. I plead you Jagex, nerf the experience for all f2pers.

I hate people who bug me a lot, just so they can know my "secrets" that I've heard. I'm not going to tell you either way, so stop annoying me. <_<

I find it even more annoying when players blindly melee Mr. Library. Many people out there solely use ranged on this boss FOR A REASON. <_< It's the same with other mage-based bosses (Astea and hobgoblin earthmage). Range-melee hybrid them.

Should I start farming ranarrs right away? Thanks to trees I've improved my farming to 34, but is there a set level when I can farm ranarrs effectively? I plan on doing Ghosts Ahoy too for the Port Phasmatys patch. Also I'm waiting till after exp weekend is over, if that helps.

I love how everyone is linking to Youtube... Does Dexter's Laboratory count?

So me and my bunch of friends were eating at lunch today, in the same table. We had boys AND girls there and most of the people sitting there are quite popular among the grade. The weirdest thing happened today. While we were just chatting away and eating our lunch, some guy at our table saw this girl's ass, and what was even more amazing was that it wasn't covered. AT ALL. (Not surprising because most of the "popular" girls like dressing up so short.) And the funny thing is, that guy was the ONLY person who noticed it, and all of a sudden he started shouting. The girl obviously noticed that, and she got super pissed off at him. All of the nearby boys at the table are all demanding to know what had happened. The girl kept telling him not to say it out loud, and this kept going until lunch was over. A few moments later, some other guys knew about what happened (including me), and she threatened to practically murder the guy for spreading it out. Luckily this didn't go out of hand... Gosh, I do kind of feel sorry for her. But it's still her fault for wearing such a short skirt all the time, without any panties on. If you're scared of being seen naked, then just dress normally. Nevertheless I can never see these people the same way again. Porn irl is scarier than hentai even on good looking girls. (If mods feel it's kind of inappropriate, feel free to delete my post. I just had to get this out. :mellow: )

Some additional things: - Lumby ring: 3 run recharges a day, 50 energy per charge. - Seers headband: 10% more exp for cutting maples. - Karamja gloves: 40 pineapples per day from this certain guy (Del Monte?).

Hes also lvl 90+... 10k from a floor? were you on member world? (under your name it says your members) Ehh I get that too. You guys just have bad luck with unclearable doors, I usually get around 7%-12% opened with the occasional 13%. ;)

Hes also lvl 90+... 10k from a floor? were you on member world? (under your name it says your members) Ehh I get that too. You guys just have bad luck with unclearable doors, I usually get around 7%-12% opened with the occasional 13%. ;)

Heh, thanks. :) Btw I'm going hardcore farming on Singha. I plan on doing sweetcorns and willow trees, and once double exp is over, I'm doing ranarrs too. Got my farming up to 34 today.

What is Yk'Lagor's weakness? Slash? Crush? :unsure: If it's either, then just forget the spear and substitute it for longsword/maul (if slash/crush).

Socializer (80%) - Talking is a really big must for me in an MMORPG. It's a great part of the fun involved. Achiever (53%) - I like going for goals, but I'm kinda lazy most of the time. Explorer (47%) - Exploring new places isn't really what I'm used to. Killer (20%) - Ever wondered why I don't PvP?

One question, and I don't know if it's mentioned in the guide, but can plants get diseased even AFTER they have finished growing? I always use supercompost, if that helps. This is something that I really want to know, as my farming on Singha is only 30 (lol) and I don't really get that much playtime. Great guide, by the way! :thumbsup:

May I also mention that superheating brings quite a bit of profit too? Also, hey plasmaa, haven't seen you post here in a long time. :D You can change your forum name now, just so you know.

Team Rocket isn't even canon...

I'll probably just be rcing natures during that weekend. That or maybe fming.

You can only use up to gorgonite, so go with a 2h/spear. If you really don't want to take damage, that is what protection prayers are for. If you're really leaned toward using tank, a gorg longsword/baxe is fine enough.

Who was the boss? If it was Shadow-forger Ihlakhizan or Bal'lak the Pummeller, it's understandable.