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Sometimes the things are really far apart, so you do E1 then E2 could be a 5 min walk away then E3 is next to E1 so you have to walk back there. I solved this by looking at the maps in the guides and seeing which ones are close together and do them that way rather than in order. Yes, the good people of tip.it have made them :D Is there anything they dont do! :

Pray (whatever), cross, sommon the bird, turn off pray? EDIT: im sure if your quick enough you would only lose a point or 2, not a big deal. Could try it with nothing except a pouch, if you die you havn't lost anything.

Couldn't you sommon it after the bridge then? Ive never been, so I have no idea what your talking about :lol:

Theres a quest and for the life of me I cant remember its name, but it gives you 10 stews that give a good amount of exp in any skill. I hope some body else can remember its name. I hope I never dreamt that quest up. :-# I know some body has already said it but do monkey madness (kind of annoying but the boss is easy) and get a dragon scimmy, which is a good and cheap str training weapon.

Hes not a great advert for them if he did! :lol:

thank you : I hope some1 siggys that

Bandos plate is l33t awesome pl0x!!!!11!! :D Bandos plate is to awesome as george bush is to intellect

I think str is so over rated in this game, I bet about 80% of people who play have got there str higher than there attack. For an extra 2 mill and +2 str you sacrafice about 100 def on stab, crush and slash? I'd prefer to stay there longer, keep the 2 mill and then hit ever so slightly softer.

Thanks again. I never knew that exsisted, sorry. :oops: Bunker_Boy, sorry to tell you but bandos get dominated by full dragon plate and it only offers +2 str (but I hate str so that doesnt bother me) and +3 prayer. So for about 2 mill less you get more def against melee and only slight losses to prayer and str. I think dragon looks alot better than walking round in suspenders, a weight lifting belt and a skirt :lol: I know what im getting :D

Is dragon the best non-degrading armour, from a purly defensive point of view (not interested in str, pray or range bonuses)? Thanks in advance. :)

thank you, this can be closed now! :

This is going to sound nooby but whats the diffrence between camping and tanking :? Ive always wondered. :oops:

Once again, human greed is unbelievable. :? Maybe I should quote myself... Anyway, I don't find it fair to stereotype all f2pers as beggars and noobs who continuously beg for more and more. Excuse the blatant self promotion, but I don't beg for updates to f2p. F2P will, over the course of time, always want more. It is human nature to always want more for the same price. Wether it be members wanting EVEN MORE! updates, then it be F2P wanting.. A.. update. F2P is currently getting the 'left-overs' from the P2P system. Like anyone cares about a hellhound going F2P. It's not like its a good training spot or anything. F2P got some dungeon updates with a few monsters.. woohoo? Last time I checked members got +15 minigames, currently more quests then most people can handle. We got boss-monsters, ranging from KBD to Corporal beast. In my opinion, the most exciting things are still members. Pking in F2P isn't worth jack, because well.. how strong is a rune scitimar really? Magic dangerous? not by a long shot in F2P. Those leftovers we don't use like the party-room or.. a hellhound. They can have them for all I care. Keeps them pleased, keeps them happy, keeps them farming for our (members) materials we use for training our skills faster. Seriously, how many options do F2P really have? F2P'ers get almost meaningless expensions, the end-result will always be the same. They are limited in what they can do and what they can get by it. The best drop reward is a rune scitimar, the best minigame reward are .. fist of guthix gear? I joined members and got better things within 2 days and forgot all about F2P. They can have our junk to keep them happy. The only real point I have against them gaining updates, if its an update that is highly respected in P2P. Like skill-capes and their respective emotes. Getting a hitpoint-cape is quite impressive. Even untrimmed, they belong to the top capes. Trimmed capes, hugely impressive! Great stats to. Now this isn't junk at all! Keep it exclusivly to people who pay for it. Minigames like Castlewars are highly respected in P2P, same principal applies. For something like a monster, no problem, if it is a normal training monster. Not a bossmonster People still pay castle wars :shock: why bother? playing 20 min games to look like a noob, when you could be playing for exp, in a much more fun game? Skill capes have never been impressive to me cos theres so many of them around and so what you got 99, I think its a bit sad you want to brag about it to be honest. Example: "Well done you burnt 100k logs, way to go champ ....." Its not like its hard work, a bit boring and a sore wrist but you dont feel tired from it. Sure if I got 99 wc Im going to wear the cape but only when im cutting (mainly so I dont get asked wc lvl?) the rest of the time I will just wear an obby cape. I dont think 99 hp is impressive cos I highly doubt any body goes out thinking "im going to train hp." They go for drops or att, str or def levels. Hp levels seem to just happen, I bet 80% of runescape players are always a little bit surprised when they get a hp level. On topic: dispite all the poeple using the dramtic "if they get this small members item then what next god swords? Or to go to GWD? Or barrows?" No, it means they are now SHARING a small piece of the huge amount of members content. Jagex isnt stupid enough to open up the entire members content to f2p and expect us to carry on paying. There is always going to be a huge diffrence between f2p and p2p in the amount of content each gets, some times I forget even the most simple things arnt f2p (I got a few poisoned addy darts and for some reason logged into a f2p world when I tried to put them on the g.e ... obviously, it failed #-o )

Didums, they cant wear rune, dragon or barrows but its there choice to do that, isn't it? Pures are already fighting people with ultimate weapons so nothing will change for pures.

My argument exactly : -Hazz You forgot to mention in this specific post that members can use altar and use "click x" on that altar. Also 99 prayer in f2p costs about 300 million gp from lvl 1 if you where to buy them, if you where to kill giants all day to get them it would take years. In p2p it costs less. Perhaps we should focus more on increasing game play, and fun in the f2p worlds than keep asking for silly items we actually do need need (we might deserve them, but we have no need for it, it's a luxioury item). Im sure clicking a few extra times is alot quicker to do than running back and forth to an alter or the ecto, remember money isnt a problem in this example. I am as a pure f2p-er against skill capes, because we have no use for it (as I explained earlier, if you want to show off your stats, use highscores & quickchat. This cape will only bring problems to the f2p world). Members have a use for it? Nope. All its is a coloured (black isn't a colour) obby cape with a skill icon, shoulder pads and a trim. Considering the time and money spent to get this cape it is rubbish, I'd rather stick with me better looking obby cape (although the slayer cape looks better). Its another reason I think they should have it, its not the best cape. Its the rune equipment of the cape world (the dragon/barrows cape is obviously the fire cape). The best stuff is and will always be members.

I dont think its bug abuse. I think you just go back to were you got the 1st book and get another (after completing the 1st book) "When you've completed your first book (all four pages of the related god), you can go to Jossik at the first floor of the lighthouse north of the Barbarian Outpost and get another book of a different God. You need to have your first book completed though; he won't offer to sell you a new one unless you have the other(s) completed. A new book will cost you 5000 gp." (tip.it - prayer guide)

I'd say the Brimhaven Agility Arena only cos it really takes the tedium out of the skill. I hardly ever fail there. The obstacles give fairly low exp but the tickets can get you a fair bit of exp. I know every body will disagree with me though : Dont try the darts, they only give 30 exp and if you fail your agility stat takes a hit. Even though doing it looks awesome. 8-)

A thread on the runescape forums has just maxed on the "f2p skill cape" issue of which I posted about 100 times, that being said Ive heard every argument from "no" to "yes" (to f2p already have skill capes, yes he was a noob and he got flamed for 3 or 4 pages). So here are my opinoins: (brace yourself!). You deserve things by earning them, you earn a promotion ... you dont then pay your boss cos he offerd you a promotion. Jagex wont lose money. Say 1,000 pathetic members quit cos f2p get members content they will lose £3,500 but how many members accounts are there (to round it) a million members thats £3,500,000+ then you got f2p adverts so a lose of £3,500 isnt going to make them worry is it? Of course not caring about people quitting isnt a great idea but people always over-react or flame jagex staff for every update, who would have thought being able to run for longer and more often was a bad thing? So no matter what jagex do people are going to be angry at them. Fact of the game unfortunately. Were not talking about new weapons, skills or area's just 15 skill capes. (This might only apply to runescape forums, as I doubt people are bringing up this argument of "if they get capes why not give them godswords" cos its a silly argument and a pet hate of mine) Npc's being in the wrong place .... they can be moved or new 1's made and put in f2p area's. Skill capes arnt the only reason people become members, thats just a stupid thing to say. On the same note they arnt the most sought after item ... spirit shields (as an example) are much, MUCH more sought after. They should not have less of a cape, they work longer than us so why should we have a better cape with a stupid emote that you only use when your really bored. We dont work the same just take prayer for example (this is the quickest method, not the cheapest. I also put a comparison between f2p and p2p using the same bones). 868,963 big bones buried for zero to 99. 93,104 ourg bones buried zero to 99. Thats what I think any-hoo :

On your quest list tab see if there is a tick in the filter circle, if there is untick it. Then you will see the quest It says you have the requirment in that skill to do the quest but you might need other skills or quests to do it.

This is a little off topic but is it just the handholds in mep2 that makes this quest hard?

I like ape atoll to train melee stats but I think its ineffective till 80+ attack, so you can pot to 90+. A place I havnt trained but I have heard about is bandits. Just wear a sara or zammy item and stand there with very high def (preferably guthans) and the bandits will always be aggresive. (just what I've heard). As for gwd theres a section in Archive of Wisdom all about gwd.

They probably banked 99 in vinesweeper points, which clearly would take over 2 days. It wasn't me btw. So I dont know how he did it.

I remember a certain person doing 99 farming in a day or two.

Because it is not very efficient, now is it? But yours was? Wait you dont have one. -.- =D> As far as being efficient, it is .... if you want to train a few skills at the same time, it is. If you just want to train magic then no, its not.

You could sell then when it crashes buy it back lol