Mazhar

^ cant top 3/40k elys and 1/40k divines =ppp

[21:06:48] <@Mazhar> oh what id give for a 20m visage atm -- [21:10:58] <@Mazhar> LMFAO??? [21:11:00] <@Mazhar> VISAGE LOL dem 5 minutes later

you know ily sam =)

^ PRAISE

138 and maxed overall, the worst!@ brb 10 mins to ggs for skill door. I know because it is in a woman's instinct to scavenge food

Oohhhh...never mind, you were trolling this whole time. You almost had me there. dat 4 female team (110 109 117 114 dg) ggs was at that gd for a good 3 minutes and I ended up solo'ing half of it before one more came to help (yes I said gtgd in chat) brb getting sharpshooter and berserker while keying Save a few ones that can actually key themselves, there's no hope for them exotic creatures ;(

lmfao people still call it rushing? It's how it's supposed to be done. Saying you have dun doing 1 hour maps is like saying you enjoy cooking tuna when you can do rocktails without burning. Id you think rushing isn't fun you are most likely doing it wrong. All you need is a competent team that just knows what they're doing I was helping 4 lower level friends out by keying for them and organizing everything, we had no problem getting occult maps done in around 25 minutes. I died maybe once in 6 floors? ( also considering I have no plate + 3/4 were under 100 dg so they got hit more too) After a few hours two of them had to leave and I got 2 randoms from 148 and it turned into an absolute joke. One of them had a sag bow (95 dg, hood+bow only), With no 2h and another had a staff. The staff guy refused to use a toolkit ( and astrals? idk why) and staff bashed everything. The guy with the bow spent his time cooking and fishing while there were still active gds. The map took 40 minutes and I wanted to facedesk endlessly. I had 4 deaths and two of my friends had around 2 deaths each because they were forced to duo gds ( duoing gds meant more food used, less to spare, and more deaths for everyone) and it was all extremely messy. That guy who spent his time fishing would fit in the "non-rushing" category, and anyone who does the same is just a burden on their team. If youd rather not rush you might aswell not dg because you're just being an ass to everyone else on your team. What happens when you put 4-5 of these people together? You get 1 hour maps which apparently 18 people from this thread fall into. My lower level friends are around 90-100 and I can generally do larges with them just as fast as a team of 105+ dgers in w53 (me being the highest overall amongst them helps ;p). Yet at the same time if I make a 90+ dg team in 148 I get maps that are significantly slower. It just goes to show that the less-[developmentally delayed]ed you are, the faster and more relaxing maps can be. Why would you choose to be a burden and support non-rushing ? Just for the record; I love dging, I think its fun, rewarding ( or will be when I reach 120 for that beautiful cape), and relaxing. I never rage/argue/etc when I do it (unless you get a team of mostly females, they're undeniably slower) and at the same time I finish floors 2-3x as fast as the clueless chaps in 148/117. I do not see how spending an hour on a floor could make that any better though, lol

[sarcasm] You have 2b when reds where min ge, you could have bought four, you did nothing. Reds are now 1b+. Obviously the person that didn't do anything lost 2 bill...[/sarcasm]

+1

[spoiler= staking wins] also a winning 5m stake in there I didn't pic, ended being 73m up and I am never staking again. Two friends of mine got cleaned and another is up 2 bill I don't want to risk what I already have (which im happy with). so this is all you'll ever see =)

Already have hex/2h/hood if there was another I'd bind blood neck but until I get that, sag top. Don't need to worry about the 120 dg bind because I wouldn't dg after 120 anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxST6N8QXJk&feature=feedu

how2corp101

too many bosses, too few items

I've tried dg'ing with and without plate and can honestly say there really is no huge difference. I did not bind neck for the healing ability I did it for the added strength+attack , however the random 40's and random heals are a nice bonus. Heck, if it was obtainable to get in higher floors I would have primal gloves bound as a third bind. I key'd a couple of floors with neck and food was never an issue.

got blood neck today, broke plate for it. Then 1 hour later got hhb, broke neck for it. also seen 3 hoods and 2 seeker charms today with 5 edimmus and 4 gazers l

xp waste ////////////////

got my friends into dging again so until free trade nex + this is all im gonna be doing ;o

This really depends on how much HP youre willing to safe to; also, youre assuming you always eat right before you go under your "safe limit" which isn't always optimal (sometimes better to eat a high HP at beginning of kill if youre timed right before an OVL boost) Also have to account for the fact that with div youll have to praypot more (potentially even panic pot) b/c of chance you might get smited out Its easy to do complete kills with divine using yak and no brews, id rather wait till i got under 350 and drink 2 doses of brew (99 att/str for 1-12 seconds) than waste brews and end the kill with more hp than I would need since the minis guarantee max hp. Of course theres gonna be times when i brew up early (graar is full hp while im like 500) but more times than not I won't need to. You can pretty much live off ss flicking graar unless you get unlucky hits. Also drinking one dose of rest at a time won't delay your hits at all so you wouldn't need to panic rest/ppot

for this whole post I'm gonna use bandos as an example: my position is that divine is a LOT better than ely 1- You can keep your hp generally lower in pvm with a divine and once graardor dies your hp will almost always end with 990 from ss'ing minis so that's like a potential brew dose saved/kill (keep hp above 500 w/ ely 350 w/ divine, so that's a brew dose difference nearly everytime) 2- Assuming you start 990 lp at each kill from ss'ing minis, which will almost always be the case: you can take 640 damage w/ divine and 450 from ely before having to brew but it also takes longer for your hp to get dropped that low with those shields. you can take 914.3 raw damage with divine before having to brew and 514.3 with ely. that's a HUGE difference 3- Uni can keep up with divine, it can not keep up with ely, you can honestly just take 7 ovls, 4 brews + divine and last all 7 with just uni ( not used because bones are a part of the profit). Whereas 4 brews wont last you more than 2 ovls with ely. assuming you get 3 uni specs/kill which is reasonable as kills take 2 mins (full bar takes 2 mins) and you only really need to use them at the boss: that means divine can take 1144 damage with it's effect and ely can take 954, that means divine can take 1634 damage and ely can take 1090 that is a 543 extra raw damage a divine can take over an ely, so you have to brew a LOT more with ely than divine using uni. 4- Most people do bandos w/ super prayers and a divine can salvage it more than an ely can 5- Graardor drops restores and has an alter every 10 minutes which might as well be considered a food source for divine users. Yes it drops sharks/potatoes too but divine can make a lot more uses out of them compared to ely

I really hope they make items you drop on the floor just disappear as they do now I don't want to feel like i gotta loot a drop asap to be free from another spastic coming and looting it

9 man trips w/ claws maul ccb rigour can get 7ish kills a trip consistantly and in under 5 mins ea, and is probably the best way atm all 9 claw at start, instant kill the first phase, lasts 5 seconds pro range and range the second, lasts 40 seconds just maul blood out before it gets to siphon twice, lasts 60 seconds stay together but spread for ice (like you would in cwa), lasts 30 seconds range/melee the last phase while dd'd on where the ice mini died, lasts 60 seconds + ~ 20 seconds on each mini