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The banker is also expensive, nearest free bank is ardougne I think

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeoneering_journals Some of the misc are certain themes apparently.

Misc and m&thok are from regular monster drops at random. Some from only certain monsters. It might be a while before you get them. I'm 67m dg xp with all m&thok and 1-17 misc. Bilrach is dependant on dg level, 30 requires 117 dng or something. The rest are boss notes.

Join clan chat "dgs" as a guest. You are probably in the friends chat or not realizing you can join clan's as a guest. Make sure you have read the entire first post of the guidelines before joining the chat, or you will be kicked. There is almost always a mod/admin/leader on, but you must do ok as a guest for a while before being added to the clan. You don't need to be added to the clan to dg with us, as long as you've read the guidelines.

Here's my old setup before 95 pray. Replacements: Rapier with whip. Cks with dfs. Inf botos with d boots Ice barrage runes + rune thrown axe with fire surge runes Cstaff with sol Chaotic crossbow with rune c'bow. Arcane stream with a brew. Some of the super restores could be replaced with pray pots to save a little. Strategy: Enter with mage pray + piety, whip supreme to death. Setup cannon by prime's spawn point and fire it once, grab supreme's loot and lure and mage rex to death. Whip supreme, selecting to fire cannon again. If rex hasn't spawned by the time supreme dies, then you can range prime for a bit. If prime dies before supreme dies you can range pray for a bit and then no pray safespotting rex. So pretty much back and forth between supreme and rex with the cannon doing most of the work against prime.

I use f-keys, arrows keys, keyboard to yell at people and the mouse all a lot. I use all 5 f-keys, probably pray/inv the most though. I also write down most key doors in swiftkit notepad and check the map a lot. Touch pads are noob !

For skeleton horde if there aren't many players in the boss room / you are a wimp, leave majority of 1 style alive - i.e. leave 3 mages alive, mage pray, and kill the 2 other ones repeatedly as they spawn.

Rows are better if you can find people to do them. Single floors aren't too bad because you can overload before each one, but leaving and reentering does take longer generally + finding new teammates adds time.

I think yours is cluttered with too much unneeded information. Here is mine, personally: First line is flower room. Last one you can't see says blink moves north and east. Also, nice sub 10 large :P

Only if you are a skilled keyer, imo. Non keying it isn't as useful unless the keyer knows to drop you the gt right away.

The aids are mainly aimed at newbies to teach them things, imo. For example, you should always pick up herbs and blues. The map program teaches you to be aware of where doors are on the map, which is a vital skill many do not bother with, they just write / memorize who gated what. Besides, I don't see how being reliant on these aids is detrimental to you in any way, except the rare time you dg on a different computer than regular, if ever.

Gets a toolkit. Gets laws/cosmics. Check map at some point. Gate ht. So no, not really anything special. Except the keyer since they're holding the gt should go in the direction that looks like the biggest path.

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Best way to hunt for a hood is floor 30-35 med. 2nd best would be 18-29 med.

Why would it happen just once? Not a very good sign of your discipline tbh. It was a bit situational, but definitely not enough to validate it. :shame:

Dw zaaps I've improved at hide and seek

How do you keep track of what rooms are part of the critical path? Anything after a pot door is not on the critical path. Otherwise, you can't tell. If you vidded it you could see which rooms had which keys and find out. But that is impractical and I thought you'd have a better way It's good to keep track of keys obtained from pot rooms, because you know that they aren't critical path. I think some resources can also tip you off depending on skill levels. Like for example a soulgazer when I'm the highest slayer lvl (95) should be bonus. We hope to find out more though.

Hey guys, Chee, toad, and I are starting a project on the critical path! We hope to discover patterns and information about how it works. More information is located on grimy's forums Thanks ! :)

repost I believe pf isn't in the clan and is keyer rank on this thread. Mostly people have to know you since no star. So yes.

Also, it's not like we take a glance at your average and judge you based off that. It's mostly about how good a dnger we think you are. As far as the spreadsheet goes, teammates are definitely the biggest factor in floor times. A horrible dnger could dng with 4 pros and 'key' an average of 20 mins, when really they're all carrying the horrible dnger. So don't really concern yourself over getting some bad times. I have a couple of 38 min floors on my spreadsheet ^_^

You fed it to dinos? Trapped it in barrel room?

Yes, bandos chestplate is definitely better than barrows plate. Arcane's magic bonus is useless. Rex has no magic defense, you hit fine in -30 mage bonus, and setup with dboots + bandoschestplate replacements is about 0 mage bonus. The only good thing about arcane is it's pray bonus, but I think you are better off going with higher range def and/or str bonus (ckite/dfs) I do think dfs > ckite, i only use ckite because i'm very high dg and low money. Compared to surgebox, arcane loses because csb has ~1.05* damage. If you don't have it just mage in dfs. Don't use ice barrage, it is not worth it. You can cast fire surge while luring rex, you will probably be hit 1-2 times but you can usually melee pray or ss flash so it doesn't mater. I'd only use ice barrage if you're duo cannon tribriding, because they die very fast. 1 person using it. SGS is less consistant but it is better if you are advanced. You can usually heal from soulsplit after an overload anyway and with sgs you can heal when you need it (against supreme) and it heals some prayer. I put it as equal because sgs has bad dps compared to rapier for those 2 hits and increases risk. Also takes off your shield while using it. Ccbow is a bit of a luxury, rune cbow is fine. But you will always use it sometimes unless your population is so high that rex always spawns during the time you're killing supreme, which is annoying to deal with.

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Replacements if you want: Bandos chestplate > Guthan Plate Bandos tassets = V skirt Dfs = Chaotic kite SGS = Eee Sol = Chaotic staff Dragon boots > Inf boots w/ bandos chestplate (Frem boots 4 if you have obv) also replace most sup restores with pray pots and start of yak should have more brews but use same amount overall in yak oh and put 1 yak pouch in 2nd row of yak taking out 1 pray pot, and then with extra inv space in inventory put 1 sup pray note i'm experienced at dks etc so you might want shorter trip less pray less ovls more brews if you suck basically