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then use firefox?

remember you can use safespots, also go with dhide legs+blessed spirit shield, and tank most tasks with a bunyip+EE, unicorn should be mostly unnecessary.

Again, use weapon poison ++. I think I provided sufficient evidence earlier that weapon poison ++ is not worth using as a primary method of training... however I think I'll add some more: To get from 82 (the level for weapon poison ++) to 89 (extreme attack and strength, defence with greenmans), one needs 2,421,208 xp. Weapon Poison ++ 12,744 potions 106 hours to get the nightshade 10 hours to make the potions TOTAL: 46m profit, 116 hours Cleaning Dwarf Weeds 175,450 dwarf weeds 25 hours to clean the herbs TOTAL: 35m profit, 25 hours Super Energy then Recover Special 4,514 Super Energy 9,455 Recover Special 6.8 hours to make the potions TOTAL: 71.3m loss, 6.8 hours In order from slowest to fastest: Weapon Poison ++: +46m, 116 hours Cleaning Dwarf Weeds: +35m, 25 hours Super Energy/Recover Special: -71.3m, 6.8 hours To justify cleaning dwarf weeds over weapon poison, you need to be able to make 120.8k gold per hour. To justify making super energy/recover special over cleaning dwarf weeds, you need to be able to make 1.07m per hour To justify making super energy/recover special over cleaning dwarf weeds, you need to be able to make 5.8m per hour. There's absolutely no reason to make weapon poison. sseli hardly has a clue what he/she is talking about. you didnt factor in AFK-ability and of thoughs options super energy/spec restore is by farrr the best. You could buy the herbs and wait though as I see clean-x coming soon.

I think jagex said its the same number of squares from the bank but its closer to varrock teleport then it was to fally before.

I was basically telling you to stay out of my business. You can give advice all you want but don't try and force me to act to your liking because I will do whatever the heck i want to do not what you believe is the best for me. Sorry about this Thanks to all the others for the supportive advice :) :roll: don't ask for advice if your going to ignore everything everyone says. I did not ignore it i read everysingle thing that was posted. ultimately its your choice, but I showed you evidence that CLEARLY showed that extremes were better, you stated that you do not like herblore, ok you dont like the skill, that's your choice. However now your training herblore but not selling your claws? that just doesn't make any sense.

IMO talon beast charms arent worth hunting for, just keep slaying/killing WF's/bursting rocklobs.

you ignored the fact that rc makes like 300k+ per hour, making it less economically friendly.

I was basically telling you to stay out of my business. You can give advice all you want but don't try and force me to act to your liking because I will do whatever the heck i want to do not what you believe is the best for me. Sorry about this Thanks to all the others for the supportive advice :) :roll: don't ask for advice if your going to ignore everything everyone says.

I haven't thoroughly tested it, but in my experience, Karil's crossbow hits way too low to be effective. I kill Ahrim much faster with a rune crossbow and broad bolts. Again, I haven't tested it; just my two cents. karils xbow is basically a whip for ranged, its a slightly faster speed and has a similar max hit (~50 lower) (taking into account the fact that void has no damage boosters and worse pots then melee does) and is similar accuracy.

probably, remember that in non LS worlds you can beat 10 people who are lower levels then you for the kill, as its individual damage.

Im not exactly a skiller as i have low patience for it xD But i didnt think pray was worth it until 80+ and i dont really pray much on slayer tasks and such so would it be worth till to do this? What about slayer??? i know u can get max melee by doing slayer and a very high amount of money but its a very slow skill and the more profitable tasks seem to be at 85+ (11k from 84 atm) if you dont think youll ever get high enough herblore for extremes, put it in whatever. In my experience abby demons and spirit mages are both overrated, the best money tasks are the things that drop lots of medium-low to medium priced drops (aberrant specters, blue dragons, nechs, all strykewyrms)

No, I did not, and dont post anything that you dont want people to read.

Yes but the subtitle to the question is a choice given between Dragon Claws and Dfs. I clearly stated i do not want to spend the money on a skill i would not personally use much :) both of which are a bad decision, you would use extremes on every task if your slaying the right way, you would use it all bosses and over time you could get overloads, if your going to ask for help, and are given a different, better option then the two you gave you should accept it. The option may seem better to you but it is not to my liking ATTENTION I will take into consideration your valuable advice and i will spend every GP that i gain on training my herblore. However, i will not sell my Dragon Claws. I like the fact that you ask for advice and then ignore all the advice everyone gives you =D> Sorry but are you blind? Read the post again. Uhmm, I gave you very clear numbers showing that extremes are better damage per hour then claws, you stated that you don't like herblore but now your training herblore anyway and not selling your claws so you'd have enough to get to the things that actually help? I'd say that's basically ignoring our advice. The only reason I would keep claws over extremes is if you solo bandos/zammy or pvp a lot.

herblore it'll save you a lot of cash, although if you really dislike any of the other skills I'd put it in there

Yes but the subtitle to the question is a choice given between Dragon Claws and Dfs. I clearly stated i do not want to spend the money on a skill i would not personally use much :) both of which are a bad decision, you would use extremes on every task if your slaying the right way, you would use it all bosses and over time you could get overloads, if your going to ask for help, and are given a different, better option then the two you gave you should accept it. The option may seem better to you but it is not to my liking ATTENTION I will take into consideration your valuable advice and i will spend every GP that i gain on training my herblore. However, i will not sell my Dragon Claws. I like the fact that you ask for advice and then ignore all the advice everyone gives you =D>

You can clean herbs a lot faster than you can make potions. Okay but there would still be a considerable difference. Say half the exp earned per hour i am guessing? Anyways i do not want to discuss herblore i am not a great fan of that skill for the moment. then I would spend the money on tassets and get a fighter torso.

Yes but the subtitle to the question is a choice given between Dragon Claws and Dfs. I clearly stated i do not want to spend the money on a skill i would not personally use much :) both of which are a bad decision, you would use extremes on every task if your slaying the right way, you would use it all bosses and over time you could get overloads, if your going to ask for help, and are given a different, better option then the two you gave you should accept it.

Claws would be better than an SGS. And extremes are better than claws. But the money from claws won't be able to get you there unless you're going to clean herbs. But seeing as you seem to not care for skills I doubt you will want to clean herbs. Lol cleaning herbs for herblore 85 is like killing chickens for 99 defence :P Guys you are all WAY off topic. I dont really care about herblore and what not :) sorry if i offended you actualy cleaning herbs for 85 herblore is practically the same as fletching broad bolts for 99 fletching. And herblore is going to help you with slayer more then claws or a dfs, and this is on topic.

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I'll post this here too just so people dont spend awhile looking for said post: based off of SoSolidClaws stats and dboots+glory+b gloves+whip/dds+rune defender/claws+slayer helm, no other strength bonuses. OT: I believe it costs about 70m from 72 making super attacks, but there's cheaper methods. Use this Wiki page or Grimy's Herblore to calculate GP/XP and speed.

items only last until your power goes out at solo bandos :wall:

Id go with LBS+antidragon shield, prayer is basically required here, with a unicorn, 99 def and max def gear, I cannot tank them effectivley, just bring ppots antifire pots and sup attack+strengths.

For this scenario it is being assumed you have average slayer gear for your level, and it is being assumed you hit your max hit every time (max hit and average hit are comparable), the effects of super antifire and extreme attacks are also being ignored. It is also being assumed that you are constantly attacking something. As you said you dont use Kuradal, the effects of the Ferocious ring will be ignored. Given: A whip, dragon claws and a dragon dagger all hit once every ~2.4 seconds, which is equal to 125 hits every 5 minutes Your max hit with a whip is 352 with super strengths Your max hit with dragon claws and super strengths is 290-145-82-72=589. Your max hit with a whip and extreme strengths is 371. Your max hit with a DDS and extreme strengths is 324x2. Therefore per special bar with super strengths+dragon claws, you deal a max of 43296(whip)+1168(claws)=44474 per special bar. Per special bar with extreme strengths+dragon dagger, you deal a max of 44891(whip)+2592(dagger)=47483 per special bar. even without the accuracy boost, and sped up dragons tasks, you deal a maximum of 3009 more damage per special bar with extremes :thumbup:

i agree, the solution to fixing usless skills is not to replace them with equally useless skills. Care to explain how it's useless? --------------- On topic: I think this is a decent idea, but I don't think it can stand alone as a skill. It'll do better as a simple add-on to the game IMHO. how does it benefit anyone at all in anyway? It doesn't..we have the assist system, and you can always just trade cash for these items if you want someone to bank for you. We already have glorys+rings of dueling which teleport you on top of banks, so this adds nothing new to the game, its useless.