Gemeos2

runetrack works for me It works for me too.

It would make sense to work... It would be a good idea if anyone could make a vid of it. Anyway, it doesn't look like a reliable method for long-term because of the low supply (and low ge limit) of the colored feathers.

The way it is so easy makes me feel terrible. :(

? Remote farming only allows you to cure and check if it's fully grow whatever you plant. How could it be useful for Suomi? Dead plants means less xp and so therefore, remote farm would make it more efficient? ? You can pay to the gardener when planting Wood trees, Fruit trees and Calquat (which is what people plant for Farming XP). You lose 2 growth cycles each time the plant gets diseased, so it's faster to remote farm during each growth window. What even is sleep or real life? >Loses argument >comes back with unsuccessful witty comment Poor Gemeos :( This doesn't have anything to do with win or lose... Not like we were fighting or anything... I just meant that it doesn't seem reliable to remote farm like Hedgehog said, due to the fact people sleep and have real life.

? Remote farming only allows you to cure and check if it's fully grow whatever you plant. How could it be useful for Suomi? Dead plants means less xp and so therefore, remote farm would make it more efficient? ? You can pay to the gardener when planting Wood trees, Fruit trees and Calquat (which is what people plant for Farming XP).

? Remote farming only allows you to cure and check if it's fully grow whatever you plant. How could it be useful for Suomi?

You can set it in Runetracker. Just go to your user page and select the skill you want to see your personal record. You can see the record in the bottom of the page.

Use RuneTracker. It's more accurate and it isn't down. Runetrack is to the exact xp, whereas Runetracker is to the nearest million gained. Unfortunately the only way I could use Runetracker is by looking up each skill for every person. For 15 people and 25 skills minus the 200M's that's well over 300. I will just wait another day to see if it comes back, and otherwise just go from rs hiscores. No, lol. I'll give you a few examples: http://runetracker.org/track-s+u++o++m+i http://runetracker.org/track-jake There you can see the XP rate from them in the last 7 days (or last 168hours). Runetrack has been down for several days now.

Use RuneTracker. It's more accurate and it isn't down.

295k without time including getting potions. 275k including time getting potions. Obviously, my calculator use the 275k rate.

Depending on when exactly the release is, it may or may not delay SUOMI from getting 200M in all skills. At his current pace, he's looking likely to get 200M all skills around March next year. If the new skill is released before then, it'll take longer, obviously. But somehow, knowing Jagex, I don't think it'll come out that soon. They already said end of 2013/start of 2014, and that's just a rough guess, they haven't even started working on it yet. So yeah, Suomi should definitely get 200M all skills before that. Who? What? Where? When? Link please. I expect Suomi to get 5b around New Years tbh. He would have to play around 96 hours per week...

I'll add 1:10 ratio later to my calculator. Thanks.

Fixed version, once again: Bonfire while Wc teaks: 104.52 Wc XP/log You gain 107.625 Firemaking XP each log you burn. So, for 200m Firemaking XP, you will only need to burn 1,858,304 logs. That's 194,229,934 Woddcutting XP. 194,229,934/114k= 1704 hours Then you move to woodcutting while splitting at artic pines with dragon hatchet: 200m-194,229,934=5,770,066 Woodcutting XP left. 5,770,066/140k=41 hours. 1704+41= 1745 hours. With 1698 hours you do 200m Woodcutting and 200m Firemaking. That's 1844-1745= 99 hours saved and this all is 0 cost. Still the best idea besides C2. C2 Fishing/woodcutting/firemaking is still a better option by 296 hours.

I tested it when it came out for a few mins. Even though I did not mastered it or anything of that kind, I understood you don't lose any tick from Woodcutting if you are fast enough. I wonder if anyone would actually be "able" to do it for the entire 200m Woodcutting. Also, I got another idea few weeks ago but didn't ever share. Here is it: Bonfire while Wc teaks: I remember Zarfot saying that he got 95k Woodcutting XP/hr. Now it's 95k Woodcutting xp = 1090 logs (87.1 XP/log) You gain 105 Firemaking XP each log you burn. So, for 200m Firemaking XP, you will only need to burn 1,904,761 logs. That's 165.9m Woddcutting XP. 165.9m/114k= 1455 hours Then you move to woodcutting while splitting at artic pines with dragon hatchet: 200m-165.9m=34.1m Woodcutting XP left. 34.1m/140k=244 hours. 1455+244= 1698 hours. With 1698 hours you do 200m Woodcutting and 200m Firemaking. That's 1844-1698= 146 hours saved and this all is 0 cost. Zarfot quit pre-urns, so teaks should be over 100k xp/hr now. You're also forgetting flame gloves/ring of fire. Yea. that's why I wrote: "165.9m/114k= 1455 hours" and not /95k.

I tested it when it came out for a few mins. Even though I did not mastered it or anything of that kind, I understood you don't lose any tick from Woodcutting if you are fast enough. I wonder if anyone would actually be "able" to do it for the entire 200m Woodcutting. Also, I got another idea few weeks ago but didn't ever share. Here is it: Bonfire while Wc teaks: I remember Zarfot saying that he got 95k Woodcutting XP/hr. Now it's 95k Woodcutting xp = 1090 logs (87.1 XP/log) You gain 105 Firemaking XP each log you burn. So, for 200m Firemaking XP, you will only need to burn 1,904,761 logs. That's 165.9m Woddcutting XP. 165.9m/114k= 1455 hours Then you move to woodcutting while splitting at artic pines with dragon hatchet: 200m-165.9m=34.1m Woodcutting XP left. 34.1m/140k=244 hours. 1455+244= 1698 hours. With 1698 hours you do 200m Woodcutting and 200m Firemaking. That's 1844-1698= 146 hours saved and this all is 0 cost.

3578 hours at the time of this post. You should C2 Fm. It's 774.3k xp/hr due to the fact that you burn a log each 2 ticks @dung instead of the normal 4 ticks. We already proved that Wc and Fishing is worth it so.... I don't use this in my calculator because I want to calc time left with the methods that top players use nowadays. But anyway: Wc splitting with Adze and use "Drowns method" for the rest of Fm XP: You gain around 38.5m Fm XP from 200m Wc Leaves you with 161.5m Fm XP to do. 161.5m/535k= 302 hours 200m/130k=1538 hours Total of 1840 hours (round numbers) Wc splitting with Dragon Hatchet and use "Drowns method" for the rest of Fm XP: You gain 0 Fm XP from 200m Wc Leaves you with 200m Fm XP to do. 200m/535k= 374 hours 200m/140k= 1428 hours (higher XP rate because you can split more logs) Total of 1802 hours (round numbers) Bonfire while Wc and use "Drowns method" for the rest of Fm XP: You gain 176m Fm XP from 200m Wc Leaves you with 14m Fm XP to do 14m/535k= 26 hours 200m/130k= 1538 hours Total of 1564 hours (round numbers) Bonfire while Wcing is like 85-90k Xp/hr... You can't split so you lose Xp. Forgot to ajust woodcutting XP rate. Here's the fixed version: Bonfire while Wc and use "Drowns method" for the rest of Fm XP: You gain 176m Fm XP from 200m Wc Leaves you with 14m Fm XP to do 14m/535k= 26 hours 200m/110k= 1818 hours Total of 1844 hours (round numbers) Just spending extra 4 hours, you save ~695m. So, unless you make more than ~174m gp/hr, bonfire while wc is the best idea besides C2.

3578 hours at the time of this post. You should C2 Fm. It's 774.3k xp/hr due to the fact that you burn a log each 2 ticks @dung instead of the normal 4 ticks. We already proved that Wc and Fishing is worth it so.... I don't use this in my calculator because I want to calc time left with the methods that top players use nowadays. But anyway: Wc splitting with Adze and use "Drowns method" for the rest of Fm XP: You gain around 38.5m Fm XP from 200m Wc Leaves you with 161.5m Fm XP to do. 161.5m/535k= 302 hours 200m/130k=1538 hours Total of 1840 hours (round numbers) Wc splitting with Dragon Hatchet and use "Drowns method" for the rest of Fm XP: You gain 0 Fm XP from 200m Wc Leaves you with 200m Fm XP to do. 200m/535k= 374 hours 200m/140k= 1428 hours (higher XP rate because you can split more logs) Total of 1802 hours (round numbers) Bonfire while Wc and use "Drowns method" for the rest of Fm XP: You gain 176m Fm XP from 200m Wc Leaves you with 14m Fm XP to do 14m/535k= 26 hours 200m/130k= 1538 hours Total of 1564 hours (round numbers)

Changed Runecrafting XP rate to 120k in my calculator. Talked with some top players and they wont really use the bonfire while wc method. Changed back to Jadinko lair. Time calc update Name - hours left (hours decreased since last week) - cost 1. S u o m i - 2,847 - 751,428,847 2. Jake - 8,109 - 11,898,288,383 3. Elvis - 8,955 - 3,799,388,044 4. Da broman1 - 10,178 - 16,635,735,577 5. Kingduffy - 10,317 - 14,435,194,750 6. Skiller 703 - 10,443 - 18,428,834,978 7. Skit Shape - 10,539 - 1,170,867,336 8. Drumgun - 10,647 - 12,372,856,205 9. Klonki - 10,658 - 21,386,135,412 10. Dragonseance - 10,891 - 17,307,231,655 11. Telmomarques - 11,135 - 5,623,460,517 12. Kngkyle - 11,407 - 8,110,092,457 13. Pope712 - 11,432 - 15,125,141,881 14. Nico Robin - 11,640 - 21,698,118,961 15. Almostlost - 12,159 - 2,937,887,490 16. Roger Al - 12,173 - 21,432,780,231 17. Green098 - 12,570 - 17,464,872,352 18. Hehasnoidea - 12,945 - 9,384,786,595 19. Paulrat3 - 13,021 - 12,154,015,139 20. Carcass - 13,356 - 21,913,930,942 21. Clamp15 - 13,384 - 19,617,391,649 22. Paperbag - 13,681 - 2,048,169,448 Skiller703 lost 2 positions. Da Broman1 gained 1 position. Kingduffy gained 1 position. Klonki lost 1 position. Drumgun gained 1 position. Pope712 lost 1 position. Kngkyle gained 1 position. Roger Al lost 1 position. Almostlost gained 1 position. Clamp15 lost 1 position. Carcass gained 1 position. I can calc you if you want me to. Just pm me here or in-game or just post. I might add you to the list if your goal is 200m all and need less hours than Paperbag. You can see the automatic updated version of this post here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiNH0EgjDiPcdG5kdUJBMEstWG94dXlwVlhFa1ZoQ3c . Some data might not be available but it fixes itself when it updates. It updates each 60 seconds.

Wow, he must be getting quite some xp/h! If he played 80h that week he'd have been getting 155k/h... I realise there's some 6h boundaries either side on Runetracker but that's still a huge xp rate! 80h is 7 days? Come on this is Suomi, He said 16h+ a day? most times. = 112h weeks. Yup. Hes Rc record is 14.2M xp in a week atm, pretty sure he plays more than 80 hours a week now ;p Actually the record is involving about 129 hours runecrafting, if the rate that gemeos gave us is correct. (110K/H) Most people claim 100k but the people that use brain claim 110k. Don't come with the effort conversation because Runespan is afk no matter what you do. :( I didn't test it myself since I don't have 99 Runecrafting, so I do NOT 100% trust in the rates above. I only trust in rates claimed by myself or calced with math by me. if this is 110k without wizards than i can safely say he's getting AT LEAST 120k p/h chasing wizards. you can get on average 20k+ p/h boost chasing wizards if it takes ~2mins per wizard and using a fc wizards are easily located which i know suomi is doing. What fc are you talking about? I tried one some days ago but it sucked.

Wow, he must be getting quite some xp/h! If he played 80h that week he'd have been getting 155k/h... I realise there's some 6h boundaries either side on Runetracker but that's still a huge xp rate! 80h is 7 days? Come on this is Suomi, He said 16h+ a day? most times. = 112h weeks. Yup. Hes Rc record is 14.2M xp in a week atm, pretty sure he plays more than 80 hours a week now ;p Actually the record is involving about 129 hours runecrafting, if the rate that gemeos gave us is correct. (110K/H) Most people claim 100k but the people that use brain claim 110k. Don't come with the effort conversation because Runespan is afk no matter what you do. :( I didn't test it myself since I don't have 99 Runecrafting, so I do NOT 100% trust in the rates above. I only trust in rates claimed by myself or calced with math by me.

110k and set up is minimal time spent.

I get 20565 fish exp on average every 10 minute game, so im going to say it is worth it. If not just to get champion tacklebox. Sorry but I am curious.... I went checking your runetracker profile (you can check here: http://runetracker.org/realtime-dragonseance ) and you only gained 39977 Fishing XP. My question is: How can you average that to 20565? have i logged out? also people with 99 had a glitch, we were not getting any exp edit i checked my own: 110k exp over over 5 games + small lamp (fishing) thats 20280 exp average, my bad Also you can fit any bank skill in between with no more than 30 seconds lost per game. I see what you did there but whatever, I don't really care. Let's imagine it's 120k XP/hr and you do bank skill in those 10 mins you have to wait between the games. Let's assume time going to bank is 0. 200m/120k= 1667 hours of Fishing training. The average XP rate of bank skills are (450k+785k+830k)/3=688k XP/hr 600m/688k=872 hours of bank skills training. So, there won't be enough bank skills for your plan "do bank skills while waiting".

Fishing is already AFK C2 isn't as much afk as runespan. Even though it's afk for me since it isn't 1 click per each time you gain XP.

I get 20565 fish exp on average every 10 minute game, so im going to say it is worth it. If not just to get champion tacklebox. Sorry but I am curious.... I went checking your runetracker profile (you can check here: http://runetracker.org/realtime-dragonseance ) and you only gained 39977 Fishing XP. My question is: How can you average that to 20565?

Looks great except that only a few values load. :( Reading before complaining is always a good idea: "Some data might be unavailable sometimes but that's temporary and it isn't really my fault. It fix itself when it updates."