Thai_tong

You cannot get that infinate rate forever.

things wrong in that spreadsheet: Magic Xp rate is infinite because you do NOT need to waste time training Magic, not 400k. Cooking Xp rate is 720k, not 700k. Construction Xp rate is 800k, not 750k. Prayer Xp rate is 950k, not 1000k. Fletch Xp rate is infinite because you do NOT need to waste time training Fletch, not 1000k. The sheet is designed to work with any combination of stats, thus people with 200m wcing will not get free fletching xp, so the fletching xp/h is needed. If however you have enough time to get 200m fletching before maxing WCing the function will know that and you will do 0 hours of fletching. The same holds true for magic, so those two rates are needed. As for the other xp/h's you can squabble over that. I can see your point. But you can train fletching and magic while wc/fish/cmb/hunter/farming/agil without losing Xp in that skills. I guess you understand what I mean with this. EDIT: Even if the player have that skills maxed, it's possible (atleast I can do it) to fletch 30 bolts per tick. That would be 210 xp per tick with adamant bolts. And... 1260k xp/h fletch/magic xp gained in 1 hour during those skills? I found it pretty impossible to alch at cave crawlers with all the other clicking - mainly picking up charms and loading cannon.

I was going to do this after langer's update but got impatient lol Hours left for the top 15. 9. SU O M I 8287 1. Allar 10202 7. Zarfot 10374 6. Elias 10556 15. 8 no lifer (skiller703) 10809 12. Kingduffy 11703 3. Telmomarques 10747 5. Elvis 10599 8. Tezz 11221 2. Jdelacroix 11662 14. Lan 11791 13. Green098 12292 11. Gertjaars 12693 10. Paperbag 12758 4. Drumgun 12856 I can't find the page that I last did this on. Someone tried some other players in the calc who ended up being in the top 15. If any times increased its because I changed a few things. copy of calc https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AjYYOmjSUrCwdHRXYnp6dnRSVXZROUptQ3R6ZWlzY1E&hl=en#gid=1

Lapalok is after while guthix sleeps, he is exactly the same a duradel

We need restricted trade back!!

Only in some cases. That is why they are not the same effect. and That is why I am against donations

You cannot trade xp

What about the summoning one for faster kills at cave crawlers? Do purple sweets work for the combat boost? EDIT: or for slayer of course

Bake Pie (Summer Pies)>Ivy>Rocktails. 0.83>0.54>0.42 the effciency rates of their 'grinding' equivalents. Based upon Wines,Pines and Purple Sweet Barb,for each of the respective skills. Note: Thats assuming you don't have cooking brawlers to use with wines and you don't value magic exp from pies. Also presume your using Dragon Hatchet instead of Adze at Pines. However Pies may not be as 'AFK'-able as Rocktails and even less so when it comes to Ivy,they do still allow for 45 seconds of down time,exluding banking. The magic exp (from pies) holds some value too, since if I recall correctly Lrc(superheating the ores on the road to 200m mining) doesn't quite get you 200m magic. Even a top player has to AFK(better than hitting that logout button). :thumbsup: +1

From his vids foot looks like the guy who can go longest without burning out

foot will burnout Impossible :P I also noticed he beat the max wc rate at pines I had found from 130k to 140k (146k with d axe)

Lucky I didnt start looking for the formula. I'd never have found it. Grats skiller 703

Thanks aasiwat I'll try find the formula :)

I think it will improved but still be terrible. What is the solo xp rate now anyways?

You said the J word!!?!?!!? what do you expect? tbh you should get a 3 month in game ban. :shock:

It's not gonna be good xp unless you can go through an agility shortcut constantly to earn good xp/hr. When jagex say at the same time they mean 1 after the other in a short period of time.

Oh they put the non joke bts in already? " is ideal for those looking to train a number of skills at once" <-- new pro training method coming :P

Whats the best method for training sailing which is going to be released later this month?

Good april fools joke by tipit too :D made me lol

Happy april fools day!!!

I don't think 300k includes time for getting ingredients for juju hunter pots

Barb cut/eat is still much better than c2 because of the other skill xp. C2 needs to be 162k/hr for it to be better than barb. But C2 rushing is better than C1 rushing for people who are training dung.

Probably wont go above assisting effiges... If it goes high enough its possible effigies wont be used on rc.

I think the skills that have gone the longest before the best method changed are mining (granite), runecrafting (zmi), fishing (barb before cut/eat was discovered), slaying (slaying) and thieving (pyramid plunder) Since I made a RSOF thread 4 months ago showing the best methods 9 skills have gotten faster/easier. Either by an update or players discovering methods. Slayer, slaying to cave crawlers Combat, slaying to cave crawlers [yes thats right I classed combat as 1 skill :o] Fishing- regular barb to cut/eat or C2 (still in testing) and urns Woodcutting, teaks to pines and urns Hunter, black warlocks to jadinkos Thieving, PP to monkey knife fighters Mining, urns Farming, new fruit tree patch Dungeoneering, a couple small updates Paperbag sort of has the advantage of doing the fast skils first because a 10k increase in agility xp rate makes a much bigger difference than 10k more in firemaking

By that calculator, I am 14974 hours to maxing out. :ohnoes: Its about 14k hours for someone starting at 13m xp in all skills. Edit. I forgot to mention that it switches effigy usage between the skill pairs The best patches are shown below, I only do a max of 7 patches/day. The times for a run of 7 trees, 6 trees, ect are show beside the calculator (around R55). My timings aren't perfect it would be nice if someone could test them and see if they can be done faster. Basically the simultaneous equation shown below finds how many 7 tree runs and how many 6 tree runs are needed to max farming it is better to use more 6 tree runs because they have a higher xp/hr. If it is not possible to max on 6/7 patches always doing 1 run/day either the number of 7 tree runs or 6 trees runs needed will be negative, the calculator will realise a negative number of farm runs is not possible and will ignore that result. It will try a combination of 7/6 trees, 6/5 trees ect until only 1 tree patch is used (this would apply to paperbag) for some reason there are never 2 ways to max farming using a combination of 2 different runs, it may be possible but I have yet to see a case where it occurs. [hide] ===Farming=== (This is my favourite section) Calquat trees ideally take 21 hours 20 minutes to grow so it is difficult to do more than 1 farm run per day. Magic and calquat seeds are used (99) 13,034k (Dungeoneering) 275k (Herblore habitat) 431k 13,034+ 275+ 431= 13,740 200,000-13,740= 186,260 Over 7 years the player has time for 7x365= 2555 +1 (leap year)= 2556 farm runs This means that the player must get at least 186,260,000/2556= 72,872xp each trip The 6 fastest xp patches (in order of highest to lowest xp rate) are varrock, lumbridge, taverly, falador, calquat and tree gnome stronghold (wood tree) will give a total of 82,085.5xp , the fastest 5 give 68,171.7 total xp It would be most efficient to do the max amount of runs with the best 5 patches and then some runs with 6 patches to get more xp without exceeding 7 years Let A be the number of farm runs with 6 patches and B be the number of farm runs with 5 patches. With the simultaneous equations A+B= 2556 (82,085.5A+ 68,171.7B)= 186,260,000 Solving for A and B A= 869 B= 1687 Doing 5 patches takes 215 seconds, doing 6 patches takes 257 seconds (869x257)+(1687x215)= 586,038 seconds 586,038/60= 9,767.3 minutes 9,767.3/60= 163 hours This information is partly to show how I chose the fastest xp patches but it can also be very useful for other players. The times taken for each of the fruit and wood trees patches and for the calquat patch are listed below. This time includes getting to the patch from the nearest teleport spot, checking the tree's health, harvesting fruit (if applicable), cutting down the tree (for wood trees the farmer is paid), digging up the roots, planting the tree and finally paying the gardener. In the form: Patch - Time (seconds) - Teleport --Wood trees-- Varrock - 21 - Varrock tele tab to varrock square Lumbridge - 26 - Lumbridge tele tab Taverly - 27 - Taverly house tele tab Falador - 28 - Falador tele tab Gnome stronghold - 32 - Duel ring to mobilising armies and spirit tree to stronghold --Fruit trees-- Llyeta - 25 - Teleport crystal Brimhaven - 31 - Spirit tree Herblore Habitat - 36 - Juju bag Gnome stronghold - 36 - Duel ring, spirit tree Catherby - 43 - Catherby teleport (Lunar magic) Gnome village - 60 - Duel ring, spirit tree --Calquat-- Karamja - 26 - Tai bwo wannai teleport (treasure trails reward) The actual times when doing a farm run are longer than these because of the game loading when teleporting. [/hide]