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Considering normal marijuana use is probably not gonna be legalised anywhere in the near future - what are your opinions on marijuana for medical use? I think it should be legal, personally. It has been shown to have various medical properties - it would be one of the safer drugs out there when you take into account all the stuff big pharma pumps into the system. Don't forget, that it doesn't have to be smoked. So the whole argument about lung cancer is not all encompassing, when you consider the fact that you don't even have to use it that way. I know there are synthetic versions of THC (the active chemical in marijuana), but still, it all comes down to a question of choice. You generally decide which medication you take, with advice from your doctor, and if one doesn't work, you have the freedom to move onto a different one (again, with approval of a medical professional). I don't live in the US, but I've followed the medical marijuana program there closely considering American acceptance of weed would do a lot for our ignorance over here in Britain. Doctors are actually advising aids patients and such that marijuana may help them, and some states have voted to allow this, yet the federal government continues to prosecute those who use it even with advice from a medical expert. Kinda ridiculous, when you think about it. Your opinions?

Uh, that's eight years ago. Yup, and that [bleep] is already out of prison. and it just typifies the Turks tbh. Hate gets you nowhere, especially when its unfounded in both reason and logic. One turk stabs a guy. Therefore all turkish people are bad. Nice one there, Aristotle. You need to take a look at your subconscious.

Im gonna suggest a great alternative to all these honest jobs people are talking about. You should.... deal drugs. Seriously, its quick, easy, profitable, and you have the perfect excuse to watch shows like the Fresh Prince of Belair without being called a whiteboy.

...don't Well done, that made no sense at all. Hey, I can do it too. Prepare the fleet young-one, for the Vegan starships approach. Death to the republic! Long live Vaganor, Emperor of Orion, Master of Betelgeuse!

I like Turkey, only cause they're so bad. Seriously, they suck tremendous balls when you compare them to the other teams left in, yet still, they're there. They came back against Czech in dramatic fashion. They came back against Croatia in ridiculously dramatic fashion. Whether they deserve it or not is a different matter, it makes for great entertainment and its a cool underdog story. TURKEY FTW!!!!!!!!

While I'd agree this method would work, with a more limited amount of BH worlds and a more limited area (the BH itself) to work in, it's much easier to oversee and catch such acts now. If such acts are indeed taking place right now, Jagex may be allowing it in the short term because it gives them a good list of offenders to clean up in one sweep, both the gold farmers themselves and the buyers. Would be good for pr, send a fairly effective message out to the buyers at the same time. All in all, my opinion towards all these "OMG, RWT still exists!" threads is that they are basically propaganda attempting to convince Jagex to change back to the old system. That will not happen. They may change to a new system in the future, especially to placate the PvP, but they will never go back to the old system. And whatever system they will be going to, it will take time to get there. A 1000 threads by people missing their thrill of staking or killing another person in PvP won't hurry that process. Did you even read what I posted? About 11 posts ago I linked to a suggestion on how to fix this, not revert it.. This isn't the first world war - "propaganda" Are you forreal? Is that the real fook a ji btw? If it is, when did you get out? I remember you saying you got sent down for bank robbery, dang man.. Maybe I overreacted to that flamer, but I dont think you can seriously say that Jagex have done a good job here. They hurt RWT whatever, they could have done it in so many better ways. And I AM suggesting.. And I have cancelled my members, so I hope noone comes at me with the "don't like it then leave" attitude. Fact is I recognize this is a game, and truthfully while I'm not too bothered if people buy gold, I can understand how it messes things up - hell thanks to RWT we've lost a good part of RS here.. I'm not a hyper, I havent been around all the forums posting about RWT still happening or whatever, its just this isnt just a "few" trades as people seem to think. Yet when I post this, instead of people being actually surprised that you can still buy a high amount of cash with not too much risk for only slightly more than previously, they seem to flame me, as if I'm flaming Jagex or something. It isn't like that. While I may not agree with how they've done things, I get why they did it.. A lot of people got caught in the crossfire is all, and imo, that's not too cool you know. This whole summoning thing two months after the 2nd biggest update RS has ever seen? It's kinda ugh.. weird. It feels like they haven't properly dealt with RWT yet, you naw mean?

Its better than nothing. Which is what we have at the minute. Plus I thought of those off the top of my head, read the thread I linked to in the above post^^^^^^^^

Every time i hear this suggestion i facepalm, equal stakes and equal trades are very different. Example: Noob1 stakes a red mask and so does Noob2. Noob1 allows Noob2 to win and so Noob1 has successfully transferred a red mask to Noob2, could easily be used for RWT. @ the 80+ suggestion, a bot could probably get 80 combat in a day or 2. Yah, well it was off the top. A system could be implemented where you put say 10mil in and RS will randomly assign you someone the same level as you who has also staked 10m to fight eachother. Read this: http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=724164

If i was lead content developer of Jagex i'd completely remove unbalanced trade* and then create a HUGE pvp area with a new reward system. *I knew from the first time i read about it there would be a way for RWTers to trade with bh. Yet you claim RWT is dead?

1) Stakes must be equal, stakers must be level 80+ and must be the same level +1-1. 2) You cant take any cash or whatever into the wild, and expensive items have to be "licensed" (read the thread in the suggestion forums) 3) If someone is on your friends list for over a year then the trade limits slowly become less and less. There you go, that's just off the top of my head. Jagex have done it in the worse way possible. A [developmentally delayed]ed goatboy could have done it better.

Yeah, the head of one of the biggest gold selling sites who makes thousands every week from doing nothing is wasting his time speaking to you over msn. Btw, i still don't see why you keep telling me they can transfer gold, you can't even take gold into bounty hunter idiot. You can transfer items that can be sold on the GE in less than a second for Gold. Good enough? What's your problem anyway? You ask me for evidence so I provide it. Then, you get proven wrong on every single point you've made, and proceed to play your fail-safe and accuse me of hacking/scamming and RWTing. For your sake, I hope all your pro-Jagex friends come out and flame me cause, you really are starting to look bad..

This could prevent a lawsuit on them in the future. Besides, rules are meant to be broken. :-w And the Runite curtain is in place for a reason, removing it might be bad.. Seriously, if everyone knew all the secrets of the pmod team, they'd know where all the secret pmod parties are and invade them. :ohnoes: What, you mean the top floor of that boat at port sarim?

Only crippled it slightly? Do you have any idea what you are talking about? There are 8 bh worlds, go look at all of them and see how many of these real world trades are going on, i just looked all over 4 of the bh worlds and there were only normal pkers - Back before the updates i'm willing to bet there were hundreds of rwts going on every hour or so. And you say half of "our" game is gone(It isn't our's btw), if half of runescape to you was benefiting from another player's loss(that's exactly what unbalanced trade is) then that's your problem. I'm so sorry you can nolonger buy gold, scam, "hack" accounts for their items and droptrade items between accounts. What? LOL. I gave away over 200m ATLEAST to friends when I was on RS. Stop making wild assumptions. Just cause you're a cold, lonely, callous individual who doesn't have an ounce of generosity in their blood, doesn't mean everyone else is. Oh and, finally you can shutup: They can transfer gold. They can transfer any amount of gold They have an army of people to protect buyers And they haven't lost much business Would you consider that dead? Please, stop living in your little dream world with fairies and pixies and actually look at what is happening. You went to bounty hunter - I am talking to the head of one of the BIGGEST gold selling sites, he employs 100+ gold farmers, 30+ powerlevellers - yet you claim I dont know what im talking about, and you do? Furthermore you accuse me of hacking/scamming/RWTing without a shred of evidence, complete wild guessing. MY POINT HERE is that if youre going to remove the wild/ubtrading/staking THEN YOU HAVE TO DO IT PROPERLY. I am against RWT.

So what, why does it bother you so much? Because Jagex have removed the wild/ubtrading and staking in the name of destroying RWT when theyve only crippled it slightly. People still have the unfair advantage, and as an added bonus, half of our old game is gone.

It is possible through BH, but its taking a risk of someone else taking your gold. So that might just discourage the buyers to paying for the gold. Look at the second picture.. They have many accounts to protect buyers

So you are agreeing that rwt is dead now? No. It doesn't matter if we would get banned. These companies are still making money off it and people are still buying. Plus we were talking about a 1bil trade.. Thats obvious. If it were like 10m, then probably not.

Lets benefit from this situation and start a bounty hunter clan that looks for rwters then, free 1b plox? To be perfectly honest, we'd probably get perm banned.

Nope, look

Dead? Get real, please.

Oh and here you go: Site sells for $6 per mill.

Well your analogy wasn't accurate. Runescape sales are limited to a few cheat sites, therefore prices there will not range anywhere near as much and will generally be the same. The same can't be said for cars. Why are you even arguing this with me.. Why don't we talk about the ACTUAL issues here. RWT has been hit, it isnt dead, it's coming back, and if Jagex dont do something quick it will increase rapidly. You can't just remove huge areas of the game in the name of "destroying RWT", but then proceed to let it recover and prosper until it is again an emergency for Jagex.

Right, because of course, these are the most honorable and trustworthy people on the planet. :roll: It doesn't matter how much people try to rationalize how "safe" this is. It is MUCH more risky to give your account details to some stranger 10,000 miles away than it is to just pay money and get traded gold within the game. Period. That difference alone will stop a huge majority of "casual gold buyers". Now, you claimed that "gold sales still happen", but I don't see it - I only see companies offering to level on existing accounts, or attempting to sell whole accounts. Both of which are ALSO very risky and quite easy to detect. So yes, I'd say RWT is pretty much dead. It's a matter of degrees. Most of it is dead. That's what matters. Initially, sites took their gold services offline. In the past 3-4 days lots have come back online. I'm not saying Jagex haven't done any damage here. They have, just not as much as they or everyone else is saying. As I said earlier, when you do something like remove the wild/create unbalanced trading in such a rash and rushed way, you better make sure that you actually do what you set out to do. RWT is coming back, whether you like it or not. You can deny it all you like. Matter of fact, wait a month, and providing there are no updates from Jagex to do with BH or anything, there will be MANY more gold sellers.

1) It's not 1/10th. That was a small section of the forum I screenied. Just go there, have a look. 2) Jagex can stop account trading/training. 3) How do you know I haven't emailed them? Really, have you got me keylogged or something :roll: 4) It is profitable. The biggest gold sellers are still in the business. The people who sold 1-2m no longer do it, cause it's too much effort. If you're selling billions of gold, it doesn't matter. Raise the price and you make the same amount as you did before. My point is, if Jagex are going to remove a hell of a lot of content from the game in the name of "destroying RWT" - they better well destroy it.

About that. I know what that site looked like before December, you know. "Buying new black BMW convertible for $15,000, please call 555-1212"! Wow, look, BMWs are only 15,000 dollars now! That picture was from 5 minutes ago. There is a shop on that site that has sold over 18BIL and is still open, at a one dollar increase in price. BMWs cant be likened to "gold". It just cant. It's too localised, there are thousands of auto trader sites, but very few cheat forums in comparison. Therefore, if most of the buying is done through the forums, the prices people quote there are generally going to be emulated throughout. You should know that..

I'd say you're way off the mark there. The game used to be overrun with bots. They are now nearly entirely gone. Not 30% of them gone -- close to 100%. The price of mils before the recent changes was around $3. Now it is $6+ -- that's double. I went to several gold sites and every single one requires you to give your account details. I can assure you that MUCH fewer people are willing to do that than are willing to meet a stranger for an "unbalanced trade". I don't know what you are trying to prove here. It seems to boil down to "Jagex's effort wasn't perfect so they shouldn't have done it", which is nonsense. Re-read alcoolj's post -- it wasn't all RWT that was the danger here, but a specific type that Jagex has nearly completely eliminated. And don't forget that the changes aren't over. Some of the current ways of trading gold are based on GE flaws that will (hopefully) soon be corrected. It isn't hard to find a legit gold selling website.. Its obvious. If it has live chat with customer support and a phone number for contact, that you can actually use 24/7 and has an approved paypal acc then I very much doubt they're scamming. My point is not that "Jagex havent done this perfectly so they shouldn't ahve done it". I dont agree with how they did it at all, but that isn't even relevant here. Everyone is talking about it being dead, when it evidently isn't. Im pretty sure there's a problem in there somewhere..