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1) Hmm, you make a good point, but how do we know the danger wouldn't cancel the reward out? If I was buying GP, how would I know if the seller wasn't just going to kick my wagon for my money? They could implement a system that only makes it possible for accounts level 70+ and within 5 levels of each other to stake. Even then, if people were buyin GP, as I said I think it would be too risky. Player A puts up 1m of his own money, what's to say Player B (the seller) wont whip out a dds and pwn him for the cash? 2) Exactly. And this is why this proposed solo Bounty Hunter is another empty promise from Jagex. It will have a preposterous by-law added to it, and so it should. If they have the balls to delete the wilderness, they wont buckle under the pressure and make bounty hunter solo anything like the previous system. For example, I think the solo system WILL be solo, but the names will be drawn out at random. For example you enter your character into your level bracket, and then it spawns you next to an opponent in some other level type thing. Definitely not what any of us are hoping for. I've actually stuck by Jagex in the past; they aren't stupid, they know what they're doing. But this time around, I'm actually really surprised how they took this action. Sure, as many of you say they may have been under pressure from governments/credit card companies to get it sorted, but the way they've done it is pretty amateur, especially considering they're the creators of the game. This is the way I would have expected a bunch of kids to do it. "Oh, we need to get rid of RWT? How about, instead of making an intellectual and educated decision regarding how we are going to go about implementing these schemes; ie keeping it as similar as possible for our loyal and paying members, we just delete every way anyone can do an unbalanced trade!" Does it seem like the logic of a major, million dollar gaming company? You may say I expect too much - I don't. The wilderness WAS, there is no dispute, Jagex's unique selling point. For them to nerf it without so much as a thought (yeh, that's evident. If you wanna take me up on this, feel free) shows me that they really are out of touch with their game. They have so many employees, working in so many different apartments, they can't communicate with their members properly. Aside from those two posts on the site and a couple stickies on the RSOF, what are they doing? Where are the hordes of moderators in game telling, and asking people for any ideas. The battle against RWT is not one Jagex should fight alone. I honestly can't understand how ANYONE can think that these updates were the best course of action. If Jagex had posted on these forums, or any fan site forums (except runehq :D :D :D ) they would have got thousands of replies, probably every day, detailing how the problems could be best addressed whilst still keeping the members and spirit of the game. But guess what? They have chosen to sneak these updates on us. Promising one thing but giving another at the same time. And they will face the consequences sure enough. They say they have listened to the players, but have they really? People asked for a lend system, but not the one they're talking about delivering. (They say that items borrowed/given will be returned on logout of either player.) This is obviously a stupid idea. Jagex have chosen their course of action. I HAVE unsubscribed ALL my accounts. I don't even know why I was still playing anyway, after being banned on my main and all. Maybe it was that Runescape-allure people have come to known over the years. It's both the bane and the wonder of the game. When you don't want to play, you hate the feeling of being lured here to continue with your endeavours, but when you're in the mood, there's nothing like it. Runescape is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a complex game. But the player added complexities were what made it special. From December 2002 to 2007 I played this game, often to the early hours. I don't know why I did it. I was young, I was naive, what ever you want to call it. But one thing is for sure, I regret NONE of it. I loved my time on runescape. I got more than I could have ever wished for out of an online game, and for that Jagex, I truly thank you. But alas, everything has to come to an end, and I'm afraid my time on Runescape is finally up. Jagex, you've chosen, at the loss of the players, to fight this battle alone. We could have helped, and done so much, but your course of action has been stated and I guess we can't really do anything to change it. Thanks for the good times.

+99999 Why is it that PKers only think they matter? This update affected everyone in a good way except Pkers. What is good for the many, is good for the few. RS is not just about Pking. You're extremely narrow minded. You really really are. While I'll admit that most of the protests/rants/riots were extremely childish, the general message is correct. Imagine if you weren't an all rounder or a skiller, and you were a pker. I don't know why, but there's this position taken by many on fan forums that pking is "wrong" or "cowardly". Those who say that, are in WAY too deep. One of the arguments people like you use to discredit people who protest is that "it is just a game." Yep, you're right, its a game. But that doesn't mean, not even for a second that any work/commitment you've inputted into said game can or should be made to be completely worthless. Did you EVER Edge pk? How can you seriously consider Bounty Hunter (multiplayer) to be any sort of acceptable replacement for the wilderness. Sure, Jagex have said they're introducing solo. How do you suppose they do that, without contradicting the very reason BH was introduced; it's multi. Solo bounty hunter would be just like the wild. They've also said MANY times before that they would NEVER delete trading (they haven't really deleted it, but the general premise is gone) or the wilderness. Jagex are doing the right thing, but in the WORST WAY POSSIBLE. Their introduction of trade limits based on ludicrously low amounts of GP (3-30k) proves to me that they are completely out of touch with their own game. The price of yew longs remains 20% higher than it actually is. This is possibly the worst mistake of them all. They run the game, yet they fail to realise that yew longs were/are the single most important item in the game in terms of economic stability. The prices to train woodcutting/magic/firemaking/fletching all depended upon yew longs. If you were to fletch, you would cut yew longs. And if you were to alch, you would alch yew longs. This single mistake alone, is unforgivable. Honestly, even if they had 15k+ items to price, they should never have messed up the yew long price. That is, if they actually messed it up, and didn't do it deliberately to calm the influx of combatters. Anyone in favour of these updates (not the premise, the updates themselves) please answer me this: If Jagex don't have a hidden agenda, why could they not: 1) Instead of placing a limit on stakes, why not just make it that stakes have to be equal? Not ideal, but better than what we have now. 2) Keep the wilderness, but make it so no non combat items (this also includes noted items) can be taken into the wilderness. I see no difference between this and the supposed solo-bounty hunter they're promising to introduce. Also, with the wilderness being much smaller, it would be much easier for players to kill/detect RWTers. 3) Make realistic trade limits. 3k is nothing. Same goes for 30k. RWTers weren't buying less than a mil, that's for sure. So make it maybe 200k per hour. That way, it takes 5 hours to trade a mil. Who in their right mind would do that? RWTers would just move onto another game, that's right Jagex, RuneScape isn't the only game in the universe. 4) Allow a system for private drop parties, or maybe, you have to select 20+ members from your list, you put the items into a chest, and it gives them out to the selected people. Again, not ideal, but its better than the party room where any randomer can get your items. Maybe make it so that all 20 people have to have been on your list for 6 months? And make the maximum 5m to each person? Most people fail to realise that a COMPLETE demolition of RWT isn't necessary. You just have to take out the essential conditions that they need, and they WILL move on. Noone, and I mean noone would wait 5 hours to trade a mil. And noone would wait 6 months to receive 5m. It just wouldn't happen. There are way too many people on these forums, (lordkrohn for example) who seem to have this haughty, self righteous view that anyone who pked was or is a "coward" I don't know why they think this, but It's probably due to ignorance/generalising. For example, if you're pked while RCing, that doesn't mean every Pker is a "coward". This type of attitude, from the self proclaimed "mature" members of this community is not only worrying but completely ridiculous. You seem to forget that RuneScape is a roleplaying game. Don't compare it to the real world. More importantly, how am I supposed to fulfill my chosen role of pking for a living when the conditions I am given (permanent multiplayer, anyone in the level bracket can attack me and so on) do not correlate originally with the choice I chose. BH isn't pking, it's more like the fight pits. But this time aroumd, you actually lose items.

I cant go on the forums, my account is locked. I cant log in to any features. There's no point including it in the appeal, they don't read them manually. My appeals are accepted within 100 seconds of me pressing Ok. I've thought about how to contact them. I can't post on their forums, so I came here. Hopefully a jmod reads these forums. If anyone sees a jmod in game, can you ask them, please? I know you dont know me but egh, I'd appreciate it. I think i'll send them a letter via snail mail. Email, they don't contact players, I doubt they read it to be honest.

Prices ARE NOT fixed! Look GE, they change and WE do it, not Jagex! Ppls just can't go to the forum anymore and sell some item 100% higher price than they bought it... And someones who says, that this is like Big Brother and IRL theres no fixed prices...Look, IRL business there is many regulations, so you cannot just go and sell some item 100% higher than its price.really is..don't even dream! Runescape WAS economical Anarchy you don't find in real life! And by God, what If I don't care about money that much and I just want to get rid of my junk for maybe half price? That way I can sell it quickly! But no, noone does that of course, do they? I've had items on the GE at lowest price that didnt sell in 3 days. I went on the forums, said I was selling it ridiculously cheap, and wham, in an hour or so I had sold it. This is something we can't do. Jagex seems to think that 3k is a lot of money. They're out of touch with their own game. With the introduction of the GE, they put yew longs at their alch price. How can they not realise that yew longs, were probably one of the most important items in Runescape. Do they not realise that the whole alching culture came about from the quick fletching method of yew longs? Even random level 50s know that, but Jagex, the creators of the game do not. They also seem to think that now, raising the limit to 30k max is a good thing. It isn't. Maybe to some people, 30k is a lot of money, but give those people time, and as soon as they get a relatively high stat, they'll realise how little 30k is.

I don't think this goes under the banning/muting thread cause my account is locked, not banned. Okay so basically, my account was hacked, and Jagex noticed a change in IP and locked it. I appealed the lock 17 times, every single time denied, until I finally found my old transaction number. I appealed again with the transaction number, and it was accepted! However, whenever I follow the instructions, I get this: As you can see, my appeal has been accepted, but my account remains locked. Now, I've appealed again and again, and each time it is accepted. I've waited two days as well, as to allow for slow reaction time on Jagex's part, but it still remains locked. Any advice?

I hope you choke on it. jelous that its more expensive and cooler than your brick phone? poor noob. You're the epitome of everything I hate about this place (UK). You sit there in your country manor thinking that because your father hit it lucky on the stocks that makes you someone. You go out, probably to the local town with your designer, overpriced and overrated, bought-for-the-name clothes and laugh at anyone who doesn't wear brand names. You buy the most expensive things not because of quality but because of price. You try to act so care free but the reality is you care what people think of you. You probably watch movies like Miami Vice and Police Academy and imagine yourself as one of the characters. You truly are, the lowest of the low. You're dragging us down as a society. People like you make me sick. Money DOES NOT make you someone. It can buy you everything in the world - but it doesn't make you a real person. You're obviously not very intelligent, and from your rhetoric I can honestly assume, but more importantly deduce that you don't try very hard at school. Who needs qualifications afterall? Not you, cause you're the son of a very rich man, and that very rich man wouldn't let you be poor. But if, you woke up one day and you had NOTHING, no money or iPhones or Ferraris, you would literally be worth less than the trash on the streets. So yes, you have money. So do many people. What else do you have? Personality? Love? Nah, you're way too bitter to people who are less fortunate. You know the price of everything but the value of nothing. You will NEVER have anything on anyone who values something; because you've forgot, either through ignorance or arrogance what your money is worth and what it means to be safe and secure. Fact is you're a child that's in too deep. Overly concerned with material items, with not even an ounce of respect for anyone who has less money than you. I hope, for your sake more than mine, that eventually you'll realise this. Maybe ONE day, you will realise that insulting people because they have less money than you is one of the most heinous and self righteous things you can do. You know nothing about these people you insult but you give everything away about yourself. I know that probably, what I am saying won't get through to you at all, at least not for a few years. You can come back at me with all the insults you like, but you've already shown everyone what type of person you are.

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I got all A* in GCSEs last year, but that's cause I was literally locked in a room with only my books for about two weeks. But hey, it did me good, and now I'm predicted 5 As at AS. And now, as I'm perm banned from RS, Ima try even harder, maybe push for Oxbridge I dunno. That stuff isn't hard though, it's just a matter of whether you can be bothered or not. Seriously, if you're doing GCSEs soon, just revise your [wagon] off. Understand the concept, and buy practice papers. You can get them from AQA, edexcel, OCR webpages for free I think. Exam technique is really important, so is understanding how they mark the papers. If you're doing English and in the exam you're asked to analyse two poems/short stories or whatever, WRITE A STRUCTURED PLAN AT THE START. I have a friend whose Dad is a GCSE marker, and he said that this year they are starting to give extra marks if you produce a well written plan at the start of your essay. Don't forget to include a really badass phrase or expression, either amazing rhetoric or a quick expert assay (assay, not essay) in the opening paragraph. Believe me, markers dont read everything you write, and there are really only two places to WOW them; at the start, and the end.

It's called a phone. If you have a credit card, you have a phone. Don't be so dramatic.

[Watch that mouth ~Kill Life]

Chemically, yah. But the other guy is right, X is sold cut, split, sliced, whatever way you wanna put it. It isn't necessarily all that's there. Also loadsa times when e is sold it isnt actually mdma, but some similar phenethylamine. I think it's important to distinguish, not just assume theyre the same - cause then we start to generalise.. I don't even care if softs are illegal or not anymore in terms of recreational use, cause fact is it aint never gonna be the case. Cba to be an activist, I'd rather just blaze.. I'm irresponsible, and too pissed off all the time - that [cabbage] don't correlate easily. Used to get so worked up about this type of thing, but in the end it doesn't even matter, it is what it is and I couldnt care less. But yah, im pro drugs, ANY DRUG, not just legal "pharms"

Seems like a million GP of gold would be selling over $30 at the moment... I saw someone post on TS about how sites are now selling 3-15k gp for (over) the old price of a million... Even if it takes an hour for 1 transaction, that's a pretty good deal for the RWTer selller... $10-30/hour playing a game.. wish I made that with the same level of fun :P BS - I know people who sell GP and are still selling at pretty much the same price as before.

Therefore making it presently hold the place of an unintelligent one? :lol: Woah, you're deep. :XD:

When Jagex starts to ban people with names like Krazyfaken or Pursesnatcher like the guy above posts, perhaps it is. Add on to that that some people even created those chars before the rule was even in place. Furthermore, it is just plain ridiculous that Jagex considered it normal for so long to ban people - who have played the game for years and spend thousands of hours on it - just because their name is offensive (in Jagex eyes). There is not ethical, fair or moral about that, and yet Jagex never considered the time people spent on those characters to be worthwhile to solve the issue, which is not difficult at all. That is certainly worrisome, for everyone who plays this game. i agree that pursesnatcher could hardly be considerd offensive by a reasonable person, however I am sure you have seen some names that are way over the limit.....I wont bother to type the ones I have seen, nor do they bother me enough to report them...I just don't think it is to hard to find a non offensive, non suggestive name What does that have to do with anything? Sure it's easy, but is banning an account the best course of action? You make it sound like these people DESERVE to be banned.

Yeah, makes perfect sense. Maybe Jagex was also responsibly for 9/11. You spelt responsible wrong. Usually I wouldn't care, but coupled with a "I support proper spelling, grammar, capitalisation" signature it is kinda, atleast a little bit ironic. And back to the main point - I don't think this was aimed at pures. It was aimed at RWTers, Pures were just caught in the crossfire (Jagex probably knew this would happen, but then again, they have verbally denounced pures and are known to be against them).

good luck Look at your signature, Mister Twofaced. Stupid thing to say, but suspension..possible jail time? Ridiculous.

I just had this thought a few seconds ago; with the introduction of different brackets at BH (3 - 55) (56 - 95) or whatever they are, will pures adapt to suit these new level differences? For example, previously with the old wilderness pures could be whatever level, as they could choose who to attack/be attacked by. Now, since its a free system and in the bottom two brackets anyone can attack anyone, do you think we will see a new breed of level 55 and 95 pures? Of course the top bracket wouldnt be included in this as it goes to 126 -but the lower two it is a definite possibility. Discuss.

1) Why would you do that? To gang up on people 50 vs 1? real brave. 2) I agree there. But you've got a month to figure something out. 3) Get over it. Its a damn fine replacement. TBH- If all the pkers in RS quit, I wouldn't care to much. Judging by what I've seen today, RS is better off without them. Warning. Thats your excuse. Hmph. Never mind the fact you are killing someone (and stealing their work) because they wanted to raise prayer or do a clue scroll (which are not easy to get btw.) You seem to forget, either through sheer ignorance or stupidity, that there were warnings when entering the wilderness. Why do you think the training spots held greater exp than non wild trading spots? Why do you think the abyss was there, and not in non-wild? You really are an idiot. Most people there were willing pkers who chose to risk their items, and the others were skillers/cluers who also CHOSE to risk their items. THAT WAS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE WILDERNESS. How would a clue hold any risk if it wasn't in the wilderness? Why do you think the rewards are so great? Risk, risk, risk. It's the same in real life. If you buy some stock in Google knowing it may fall, you have noone to blame but yourself if that does indeed happen. Don't give me this "stealing" BS, if you wilfully click "yes" to a death waiver then by God, if you die you have nothing to complain about. You really aren't thinking logically. The wilderness wasn't designed to piss of skillers, it was made for a risk PvP area, as well as an area for greater-exp-yielding training spots. For you to have the right to runecraft at the abyss and gain the added EXP, you should have to risk something.

Banned today under the "RL Trading" bracket for giving my friend a 20mil gift. Ffs Jagex?

This did mess up staking. Pures now have no chance, at all, zilch. Most people have this irrational idea that all pures are pc freaks who have got their stats in one week or something. That just simply isn't true. There are many talanted pures whose stats aren't suited to modern pking that were made to be stakers. To be a successful staker took a lot of skill. On a positive note, it will cut down on real life trading, but this is going to cost Jagex SO much money. If they really think the stakers will put their efforts into skilling or this new tournament stuff then they really haven't done their research.

The prices have been fairly steady since like 2004, now all of a sudden they rise?, the prices are actually being pushed up by the macroers believe it or not. Steady since 2004? In 2004 yews were going for 500+ if my memory serves me correctly. Then last year they were down to 250. I could be wrong about that though, but I dont think I am :) Magics on the other hand HAVE been steady for some time. But then again, anyone cutting magics for money must be pretty poor anyway so you can understand why they need to jack up the prices. Yews were 300 each in 2004, i was cutting them for my money back then. Are you sure? I got 99 wc on yews and at the end of 2004 I seem to remember selling 15k or so for 450 each..

The prices have been fairly steady since like 2004, now all of a sudden they rise?, the prices are actually being pushed up by the macroers believe it or not. Steady since 2004? In 2004 yews were going for 500+ if my memory serves me correctly. Then last year they were down to 250. I could be wrong about that though, but I dont think I am :) Magics on the other hand HAVE been steady for some time. But then again, anyone cutting magics for money must be pretty poor anyway so you can understand why they need to jack up the prices.

If by "good" you mean incoherent, hyper, and childishly written, then yes I would agree. If by "Kudos" you mean Shut the hell up, then yes I would agree.

You joined in 2006. Believe it or not the wilderness hasn't been "honourable" since 2003>, and that's at a push.