Ianbur

Not true then. Halo 3 will be terrible anyway. What can they add? Terrible story? Lacklustre weapons? Rubbish level design? Moderate multiplayer? Seeing as it is easily one of the biggest games ever and the most preordered game ever and one of highest rated games ever, I don't think that the opinion of a egotistical 15 year old sterotypical teenager really bothers microsoft too much. Biggest doesn't necessarily make it good, and the fact that a lot of people play it doesn't make it good. Fifa 2004 was the best selling game of 2004, but that was typical EA rubbish. It got high reveiws, but so do other rubbish games, such as Call of Duty, dull movie cash ins, and the Fifa series. As the others say, Ocarina beats it in ever way. It is THE best game ever. I bet the highest review it got was in Xbox Offical magazine, aka fanboy monthly.

I'm not gonna debate the goal that never was or any of the rest of it, but i can assure you that no team has ever manipulated te refs to the extent that man utd have. Anyone who argues that is a fool. No, i was the one saying the better team on the day won. You, unsurprisingly, were whining about Ljunberg diving - completely ignoring your own Mr Rooney, who could have won an olympic medal with his display on that day. I have to amit that we manipulate refs, but so do Arsenal. Sio do all the big teams, really. Arsenal have come into their own doing this, remember the Fulham game where the ref gave a penatly, only to reconsider after you players had protested and crowded round him. As they do. I only claimed that Ljunberg had dived to counter your whines, and he did go down really easily. Yes, the Roony pen should not have been given, but about five minutes after, Ashley Cole typically hacked down Rooney, and the most blatent penalty ever was not given, so it levels out.

Just shut up and stay out of this topic will you? I swear to god, every topic on football this board has ever had has been ruined by you flaming anything that isn't pro man united. You want to talk about flukes and decisions that shouldn't have stood, i suppose a manchester united fan is the best person to talk to - only at old trafford could a ball that travelled 3 yards over the goal line be deemed as not having crossed the line. Here's a statistic for you Mr. Fairness, in the 1999/2000 season a study was conducted that showed 85% of refereeing decisions went in favour of Manchester United. What more do you want? And Liverpool winning the champions league final was a fluke, yeah sure, they just fluked qualifying for the cup, getting through their group, and then beating 4 other teams to lift the cup - all down to luck. All you've proven in this topic so far is you're a whining little twerp, and it's getting real tired. Can't you just once forget that being a Manchester United fan automatically makes you a complete tosser, and recognise when credit is due? If you actually read this topic, I have already admitted that to come back from three goals down against the best team in the world is a pretty mean feat, and all credit to them on their comeback in that game, but you can't deny, they needed immense luck in both the Juve and Chelsea games. I didn't know about the 85% statistic, but its exactly the same story with Arsenal. The linesman at Highbury would have ruled out the goal that wasn't a goal from Spurs if he was in the same position. It was impossible to see that it was a goal from where he was standing. If I remeber correctly, wern't you the one who was whining in a topic a while back, complaining that at the Old Trafford game, Ferdinand should have been sent off, the penatly was not a penatly, etc???

Not true then. Halo 3 will be terrible anyway. What can they add? Terrible story? Lacklustre weapons? Rubbish level design? Moderate multiplayer?

Here's a film recommendation for you, i have a feeling you'll enjoy it: Gah, not funny. And it was a fluke, simple as that. Yes, they beat chelsea, but the "goal" wasen't a goal. Anywhere apart from Anfield and it wouldn't have stood, and remember back to the Juve game. Del Piero scored a perfectly good goal, but it was ruled out for offside. Anywhere but Anfield and it would have stood. That goal would have taken Juve through. Why does everyone suddenly love Liverpool now anyway? If Man United won the Cl, no-one would care and no-one would claim how brilliant a victory it was. And cluck, your logic is that if someone disagrees with your completely correct opinion, then its automatically flaming. Brilliant logic, there.

It wont make a mockery, they are the fifth best team in England, they don't deserve to be in the CL next season. That fool Phil Thompson said that he wouldn't care if they aren't allowed in if they win the trophy, so why can't the rest of you scousers? And anyway, whats the point? Even if you get in, you won't actually defend it, I highly doubt Liverpool will fluke the cup two seasons in a row. Give someone who has done better than you this season a chance.

UEFA are apparently still deciding, but I really hope Everton get the slot, and not just because i'm annoyed about Liverpool, but to reward their brilliant achievment this season. It'll be good to see a team like that in the CL. If there is a one thing that Arsene Wenger said right, it was when he said Everton should get the final spot. He said the Premiership is a level playing field, as anything could happen in a knockout game, and you should be rewarded over 38 games, not one. I have to agree with that completely. Everton have been the better team this season, they should get the final spot. Liverpool have won it, fair enough, but they were not as good as to qualify again. And I refuse to congratulate them on something they didn't deserve.

Hwaa! I can't believe you just said that! Liverpoo are not the best team in Europe, far from it. They just aren't a very good team. I cannot explain how they won it, but crap teams are making a habit of winning European cups, just look at Porto and CSKA Moskow. They went on the luckiest run ever imagined, it was one big fluke. Yes, it was a decent comeback, but it helps when you are playing a team who brick themselves when they concede a goal, and that cretinous fool Hyypia should have been sent off moments earlier. This win puts English football back on the map, but why did it have to be Liverpool?! They were the last time I ever wanted to win it, i'd even prefer Arsenal over them. Too bad they won't be around to defend it. And the anthem you'll never walk alone is a load of rubbish. It's a lie. I bet all of you have walked alone at some point. Sound like another jealous boy who support club which have trophyless in this season. Don't whine about how Liverpool is crap blah blah. You should cheer at this club because it's an English club. Also no one English club have five European cups like Liverpool. I'm Derby County fan and I don't care if it's suck but I support it because I born there but I did supported Liverpool yesterday. Ok I going out. Heh, you can't understand what I feel because you don't support Man United. I bet to you, Liverpool are just another team. You say im jealous, and I have to admit I am little - our biggest rivals have just lifted the biggest trophy in the world. Im all for English football being recognised, but I dispise Liverpool. I bet if Spurs won that game, CJ would be annoyed beyond belief. And the fact is, they aren't a good team. Do you know what Carragher, Gerrard, Alonso, and Riise equal? Liverpools only decent players. The rest all other rubbish Houiller buys, dull spaniards or ridiculously overrated players.

Aah! How many narrow minded fools can we get on this topic?! IT DOESN'T MATTER IF MARIO IS 'CHILDISH', AS LONG AS IT PLAYS WELL, WHO CARES?! I admit Mario Party got stale long ago, but the platformers are still good. GTA was okay, but not the best game ever, what people make it out to be. And why would you take Halo 2? Because it is the most unorignial, overrated game ever? Because it plays terribly? Because the levels and story are so poor it hurts? Come out of your narrow minded cage and see that Mario is still ace!

Sebulba! I don't know how many of you remember him, but he was in Episode 1, and in the N64 podracer game. As Watto said: "Sebulba, he always weens!!"

Hwaa! I can't believe you just said that! Liverpoo are not the best team in Europe, far from it. They just aren't a very good team. I cannot explain how they won it, but crap teams are making a habit of winning European cups, just look at Porto and CSKA Moskow. They went on the luckiest run ever imagined, it was one big fluke. Yes, it was a decent comeback, but it helps when you are playing a team who brick themselves when they concede a goal, and that cretinous fool Hyypia should have been sent off moments earlier. This win puts English football back on the map, but why did it have to be Liverpool?! They were the last time I ever wanted to win it, i'd even prefer Arsenal over them. Too bad they won't be around to defend it. And the anthem you'll never walk alone is a load of rubbish. It's a lie. I bet all of you have walked alone at some point.

Me too. It was brilliant back in the day. It has to be the best SW game ever.

I agree with what you say about more devolpers, as the GC lacked good 3d party support, but then you turn completely narrow minded. I doesn't matter if the game is 'childish', as long as it plays well. Im 15, but I still enjoy Mario games, etc.

I have to admit those a pretty good ideas. I don't agree with your ranged ideas though, I think we have too many bows as it is, and also, I think the better prayers should have a higher lvl to use. Still, these ideas would work well in RS.

I don't really think it was a dissapointment, in fact it was a pretty good showing from Nintendo. They announced the Revolution, which I think looks really good, and plenty of good new games, such as Advance Wars, Zelda, Mario Kart, etc. I think these upcoming months will be really good games-wise.

I want them to go bankrupt too, but the sad thing is, they wont. Thye crazy frog has sold absolutely loads and netted Jamster about 10 million along the way. I hate their adverts, you can't go through a batch of advertisments without a Jamster advert being on about three times. And the worst part is, they are not actually decent ringtones, just a bunch of loathsome animals, such as Sweety the Chick, and their newest one, Nessie the Dinosaur. Arrghhh!

I know... speed is everything in weapons today. You haven't planned this out very well...

Well it is said to be 2-3x as powerful as gamecube. Xbox 360 is 6x as powerful as xbox and ps3 double if not more xbox 360. Does anyone actually care about size? I'm sorry but I'd rather have a better console then something I can carry. I can already fit a modded xbox in my bag and who would walk round with a gamecube in their hand viewable. I mean common. So then you're judging by power alone? I don't think anyone at all should have any judgements at all on Nintendo's system yet. Nintendo usually is modest about specs, where sony and microsoft exaggerate. Just wait until you see why Nintendo's system is going to be a revolution. I think people should wait to pass judgement until they see its controller and some footage of games, because I'm sure it's still holding back. Yeah, it wont have much effect in game qaulity. Xbox was more powerful than the PS2 and GC, but good games were few and far between. After looking at the 360 picture, I laughed at how terrible it looked, but I have to admit the others arent much better. I don't like the new upright look of them, but heh, I guess looks don't matter too much.

Now how many people actually play ps1 games? Except for maybe FF7 I doubt even 1% do. Seems ps3 is the new xbox and xbox 360 is the new ps2. Game cube revelution looks doomed from the start imo. Lets see whole will win Doomed from the start?! Nintendo are doing all the right things with this console, what they should have done for the GC. It won't sell very well over here, but it will be the best and most innovative console out of the three.

Heh, using your logic, you can't call me a fanboy. I actually own a PS2, too, and to be honest, I actually prefer it over the gamecube. Nintendo mucked up on the third party support big time, really, and Nintendo of Europe are so bad it hurts, too. I have to admit the Gamecube should be the best console, but it isn't. But the fact is, it is a really decent console, and better than the Xbox. Simple as that. Of course, Xbox live has decent features, but it would help immensely if there were decent games to go along with them! Something which is distinctly lacking. The above games you mentioned for the Xbox, of which are all pretty dire, im afraid, and Conker is another useless port, I didn't rate it on the N64. Halo is out on a format I use, in which case, I should be hyping it up, but at least I can see that it is the most overrated game ever! It is absolutely no match for Timesplitters. It is the definition of a fanboy's game. And will Perfect Dark Zero ever come out? I was really annoyed when Rare were sold off, but they seem to have completely lost their way. Grabbed by the Ghoulies anyone? Your personal opinion is that Halo 2 is overrated, my opinion is it is not. I have played Timesplitters, other than the map editor, its got nothin' on Halo 2. Perfect Dark Zero is comming out on XBox 360 launch if you read my post. Conker is not a port if you knew anything about it. Your opinion is that XBox is the worst. The games I listed are great. You can't just say they are all bad or linear in 1 post when you probably have not played them all. What was so bad about Grabbed by the Ghoulies? So they took a different approach to video games, it doesn't make the game bad. Katamari Demanchie, anyone? Jesselt, a game being innovative doesn't mean its good. Remember that. And I guess I should of seen this comming, being on a Runescape board and all. Your judging XBox because of low quanitity of RPG's? At least the RPG's they do, they do them right (KOTOR, KOTOR 2, Jade Empire, Fable, Phantasy Star Online). Halo is overrated, ive played it in one player, which is the most linear story ever, and although it picks up in multiplayer, I don't think the maps are all that great really. Timesplitters, on the other hand, it essentially a newer version of Goldeneye, and Perfect Dark, with a few comical features thrown in. Even if PD Zero makes the 360 launch (which I highly doubt, knowing Rare) I don't think it will be as good as its predecessors, as they havw a different team working on it. All your games mentioned I have played, apart from Forza, but that doesn't look up to much anyway, but mainly on different formats. Tom Clancy games are terrible, full stop. You could have at least put in the likes of Pro Evolution 4 and Timesplitters into your lineup. Also, you say that people hate the Xbox on this forum because of the lack of RPG's on it? Thats a horrible excuse, the Xbox has millions, wheras the GC has very few. The Xbox ones are all crap, mind you, but if its quantity you want....

Heh, using your logic, you can't call me a fanboy. I actually own a PS2, too, and to be honest, I actually prefer it over the gamecube. Nintendo mucked up on the third party support big time, really, and Nintendo of Europe are so bad it hurts, too. I have to admit the Gamecube should be the best console, but it isn't. But the fact is, it is a really decent console, and better than the Xbox. Simple as that. Of course, Xbox live has decent features, but it would help immensely if there were decent games to go along with them! Something which is distinctly lacking. The above games you mentioned for the Xbox, of which are all pretty dire, im afraid, and Conker is another useless port, I didn't rate it on the N64. Halo is out on a format I use, in which case, I should be hyping it up, but at least I can see that it is the most overrated game ever! It is absolutely no match for Timesplitters. It is the definition of a fanboy's game. And will Perfect Dark Zero ever come out? I was really annoyed when Rare were sold off, but they seem to have completely lost their way. Grabbed by the Ghoulies anyone?

If you actually read the posts, you would find we actually did comment on the Xbox 360. Mostly on how ridiculous it looks and how overrated it will be, yes, but it is the simple truth. Actually have something to back up your statements... And I find it quite rich of you to call us fanboys, when you are the biggest Xbox fanboy that ever lived. So far you have called me the biggest sony fan boy and bigest xbox fan boy ever... Wow that makes sense. Except I don't hijack posts and completely turn the discussion ever . I have only ever stated my opinion on posts about them. You wanna say my opinions wrong? Go ahead [wagon]. Think before you speak next time? On that note say whatever you want to say back I really couldn't give a damn what some idiot from manchester who is such a fool it's unbelieveable thinks of me :) Eh? I've never called you a Sony fanboy, ever. More useless facts ahoy. And is there such thing as hijacking a post? In all the posts ive posted in, ive only posted my opinons, if you can't take that, fair enough, but you don't have to blow up about it. Im not saying your opinions are wrong, im just saying they are mainly rubbish, and I bet you think the same of me, but ah well. You say you don't care what is said back to you on any post, and you vow never to post on that topic again, but you inevitably always crawl back to make another post.. its an unwritten law of this forum. You need to get your facts straight, Ianbur. The original XBox came into the gaming industry as the "under dog" because it was Microsoft's first gaming console. Playstation and Nintendo already had great reputations and experience in this business, so XBox was UNDERRATED. They made themselves a great name with more revolutionary ideas than the Gamecube had. They had the best online gaming system of any console of all time, played DVD's, had 4 controller ports, and overall the most powerful system. You could also mod your xbox and do incredible things with it. Now that Microsoft has made a name for itself in the gaming industry and has alot more money for it, they are building up hype for XBox 360 so it sells well, understandable, right? Its not overrated, because its not out yet. Use some logic before you post. So far it looks great, they are using wireless controllers, the new XBox Live support is incredibly revolutionary, and the game lineup for the launch is already the best in the history of gaming. Your an ignorant fanboy who only sees the positives of Nintendo. How can you even type something like that without going, "wait a second... what I said was not only dumb, but really ironic that i called him a fanboy when i just said something very fanboyish!" :roll: Microsoft was advertising the xbox like a year before it came out. When it did come out, they told people that it was the best and only for t3h 1337 g4m3r$, and for some reason, everybody believed them. As for upcoming systems, xbox 360 will have internet access again, for how much a month now?(really don't know how much it will cost....) As for the nintendo revolution... free internet. But then i suppose I'm only seeing the "positive" things about nintendo. In my defence, It's pretty hard to find anything negative without being an idiot that thinks that nintendo is only for little kids. Exactly what I would have said, Jesselt. I wouldn't say that it was the underdog, as Microsoft already had a good reputation software wise, and I would say that they were on a par with the Gamecube, as the N64 didn't do all that well beforehand. And here is when you go into your extreme fanboy phase: Xbox has the best online gaming system of any console of all time - Xbox live is terrible. Im not 100% on the price, but lets just say it isn't steep, its bloody vertical. And the games don't make good use of it either. On Pro Evo 4, you can quit in the middle of a game if you are losing 4-0 and it won't register as a loss for you. And if you are in a winning position with a minute to go, the losing player could quit and it wouldn't go down as a win for you. Its ridiculous. And what else can the Xbox muster in the online stakes? Halo 2, the most overrated game ever, and a couple of rubbish RPG's, that offer nothing new. Most of the features you mentioned for the Xbox and the upcoming one were thought up first by one innovative company: Nintendo. You rave about wireless controllers, but its all been done before. And I haven't seen the lineup, but I bet it is full of crap such as Halo 3, some terrible RPG's, and a few N64 ports made by Rare. I suppose you'll come back and call us fanboys, but after reading what you have wrote, you can no longer have a decent argument in the fanboy stakes.

If you actually read the posts, you would find we actually did comment on the Xbox 360. Mostly on how ridiculous it looks and how overrated it will be, yes, but it is the simple truth. Actually have something to back up your statements... And I find it quite rich of you to call us fanboys, when you are the biggest Xbox fanboy that ever lived. So far you have called me the biggest sony fan boy and bigest xbox fan boy ever... Wow that makes sense. Except I don't hijack posts and completely turn the discussion ever . I have only ever stated my opinion on posts about them. You wanna say my opinions wrong? Go ahead [wagon]. Think before you speak next time? On that note say whatever you want to say back I really couldn't give a damn what some idiot from manchester who is such a fool it's unbelieveable thinks of me :) Eh? I've never called you a Sony fanboy, ever. More useless facts ahoy. And is there such thing as hijacking a post? In all the posts ive posted in, ive only posted my opinons, if you can't take that, fair enough, but you don't have to blow up about it. Im not saying your opinions are wrong, im just saying they are mainly rubbish, and I bet you think the same of me, but ah well. You say you don't care what is said back to you on any post, and you vow never to post on that topic again, but you inevitably always crawl back to make another post.. its an unwritten law of this forum.

If you actually read the posts, you would find we actually did comment on the Xbox 360. Mostly on how ridiculous it looks and how overrated it will be, yes, but it is the simple truth. Actually have something to back up your statements... And I find it quite rich of you to call us fanboys, when you are the biggest Xbox fanboy that ever lived.

Snake is miles better than Fisher, he is the original master of stealth games, until Fisher's series came along and ripped just about everything from MGS. Fisher also has the personality of a paintbrush, and his gimp suit and equipment make him look like a bigger fool that he ever set out to be. Also, all of his games are terrible.