Mrhouse

#-o Yeah I mean you're right this update is exactly like every other update they've ever done in the game just another one in a long line of updates nothing at all stands out about this one no discussion value here let's just move on already gosh next week they'll twitter about something that'll get everyone in a huff and they'll quickly forget about this update as it fades away I mean can they even really call it an update since they're really just rolling back to something we already once had in the game so it's not like it's even "new" you know what I'm saying, buddy? Though obvious sarcasm, it is what will happen. All they have to do in the next update is make whips pink or move awkardly and poof. "What about free trade/old wildy? ".

Haters gonna hate. People rant every time an update is released and this one is no different.

Seems like alot of people are waiting for free trade to buy their Ely's. I could see them being ~400m with free trade. At first atleast.

That or no warning at all would be hilarious. However I'm expecting huge signs everywhere you look leading up to the re-installation. And A large pop-up for everyone when they log in.

;)

Didn't MMG or mod mark say they could put everyone on this and get it done fast? I cba looking for the quote.

Imagine what it'll be like when RWT companies camp their bots there, too... And...? Are you worried about botters spamming the RSOF about overcrowding or something? More bots at already saturated places will change nothing. ON the other hand, we will have important parts of Runescape returned to us. :thumbup:

Divine/elysian v2. Cool. We have all seen how much ely's and divine's have revolutionized combat. /sarcasm.

Then let them whine. I will most definitely pray and "safe" when the old wilderness returns. Why would I care what those non-contributing zeros think about how I play? It's a game. :rolleyes: Your obviously not a pker, so who cares what you do? Haven't pked since 2007 so no idea where honor applies anymore (If at all).

Never mind. Thought they were spelled the same.

The FAQ the comes with 'phase 2' will be nice. Will help debunk the assumptions made by the against crowd. The vote is unnecessary, but if it makes them feel better, why not.

Plus RC PKing is fun. :D Counter-Rc pking wasn't so bad either ;)

"The people against this are getting this shuffed down their throat anyhow. Probably in the worst imagineable way" This reminded me of an event that happened in 2007. Your getting warned, your getting an option to vote, your getting reasonable accommodations (minigames being moved, possibly moving clues/abyss aswell). I think you'll live.

Are such manners a mandatory feature in those supporting PKers? Then you wonder why we don't want it back? Ah so you want to punish pkers? Keep them out of your idea of this game? Please do explain.

25% is roughly 318k votes. That is in almost 2 days. In no way shape or form could the naysayers come close to that. I would suggest the people against this go ahead and make your plans on what your going to do, as did the pk'ers/people that liked free trade did in 2007. And please tell me how you know that in no way shape or form could naysayers come close to that? From the poll at the top of this very forum, only around 60% are for the update. Yes'es have DOUBLE the percentage. This is also tip.it, I don't see a large group of pkers/pures here often.

25% is roughly 318k votes. That is in almost 2 days. In no way shape or form could the naysayers come close to that. I would suggest the people against this go ahead and make your plans on what your going to do, as did the pk'ers/people that liked free trade did in 2007.

Honestly, I can't see more than 2/3 of those votes being legitimate. After now, I doubt more than 1/4 of them are real. Those who play will have voted by now. Most of the votes from now on will probably be those put in by scripts. You will know if they are true votes or not depending on how long the trend rises in a constant scale. Does it matter? Even 25% is still a clear majority.

Hi. My name is Nobody. Nice to meet you. Should I add "with a brain" to my original post, or will you be ok?

"Some people, you know, like how Runescape is now?" Nobody likes how rs is now. Not even Jagex. First chance they had to bring the wild back they took. "Some people didn't experience it and don't believe it was better." It was better. And now they will have a chance to see Runescape in its prime. Ignorance isn't the best of excuses. "Some people don't want to have to wait another two years for Jagex to figure out how to rebalance the game with this in it." Faulty assumption. Basing your opinion off of a 'welllllllll maybeeeeeeeee this wont work right' is stupid. "Some people don't want even more economic instability" Was never a problem before 2007. With this update comes the end of inflation - no more statues. Economy will be in a better overall state. "Some people don't want the chance of Runescape going under" *Facepalm* Runescape has been at risk for going under SINCE 2007. Have you not noticed how hard Jagex has been trying to bring new people into the game??? " Some people don't want to be even more inundated with bots" Sooo explain why in 2007 (and I'm taking a craaaaazy risk in assuming you supported jagexs decision) when Jagex said 'its our only option' or whatever; you believed them. But now that they say they've gotten new anti-macro tech in that can deal with the bots you think they are dead wrong? Explain this. "Some people don't want to be inundated with people who have RWT'd." RWT never left, as you're probably already aware. This is unlikely to bring in much more, if any at all. And finally; "For some reason, people in support seem to be blind to the negatives that will come with bringing it back, thus resorting to twaddle like what has been said." For some reason, people who are not in support seem to be creating false negatives that will come with bringing it back, thus resorting to twaddle like what has been said. cwutididthar.

Adding a 'no' option is pointless even if it was from the start. You think more people want things to stay like this, rather than free trade/ old wild? Not a chance. I haven't even heard any decent reasons for saying 'no' apart from false assumptions.

OR they intended to bring it back anyways and figured they could nail a record at the same time.

HOLY [cabbage].

Now that they are making plenty of cash from botters can we have free trade back ? Please?

Some specials (like the unicorns "cure" drains summoning points when used). So I think they mean that... but not sure what else there is that does that =/ ^ 100% sure that is what it does. What a completely random and useless item. Disappointed in all the rewards except the prayer necklace :(. How is the Unicorn considered a combat familiar? And are we talking special move points, or summoning points. The "Cure" ability costs like 2 summoning points, how are they taking 20% of 2? From the way it was worded: "The special attack cost for combat summoning familiars is reduced by 20%." The special attack bar that your summoning familiar is where you get special attack from. The unicorn scroll costs 20 special attack points, the steel titan scroll costs 12 special attack points. These do not drain your summoning level at all. The ring of Vigor says: "Members only. Requires an Attack level of 62 and a Dungeoneering level of 62. The ring of vigour has a strength bonus, and reduces the cost of any special attack by 10%." You get special attack energy from your special attack bar at the bottom of the combat style screen. It doesn't cost attack levels to slice and dice something with D claws, it costs 50% of the special attack bar. Familiar special attacks do not drain summoning points, they drain off the familiar special attack bar. And they require scrolls to do so. If you don't use scrolls, you don't use that special attack bar at all, therefore, your special attack cost is 0, and Jagex claims that the Spirit cape reduces the cost of doing this by 20%. The only thing I can think of is it will be like Fairy Tale III, where they added the reward in game, but didn't really put it in for a while afterwards. I'm talking about the farmers keeping your patches clear. I did that quest day of release, and I cleared all my patches, and they all grew back because Jagex hadn't actually implemented the quest reward, even though you were still told you got it when you finished the quest. An example would be Ash blast from the phoenix familar. I don't see what else it could be, The special attacks take scrolls and even if its activated from a headpiece it would have no effect as it doesn't drain your special bar.