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Its true, I have set fire to my computer many times and now it is running *explosion and then static*

Oh, handy. I though Ubuntu was being a pain, but if Tip It is just down (yay for not being able to contact anyone) then life will go one.

You have to keep track of the same number of statistics as in any game system... And you would need to keep track of 2 game systems... Essentially the game would last 1 session, whoever wins wins, then a new game(Or not), different characters. And there are always ways to speed up the process, as I suggested playing cards.

It largely depends on how absolutely accurate you want to be. I mean it would not be impossible to level up a character in a few minutes, since you are basically collecting abilities and making fairly straight forwards choices (From my limited experience with Pathfinder), though it would probably have a number of errors in, which is not a major concern. If you wanted to be more accurate then I guess you could draw up a dozen or so 1-20 level progression cards, so people knew exactly what they got/limited the number of choices to make. And it is excessively easy to convert between systems if you don't get over technical with it. You take a DnDer, with their 'blow up walls' strategy/ability, and you put them in a game(Such as Danse Macabre) where people usually don't have the ability to blow up walls, and suddenly people are blowing up walls and getting into all sorts of mischief, which the game subsequently punishes horribly. (Basically all the stuff GMs usually avoid because it leads to everyone dying/short circuiting the adventure(Which I would count as dying)) Comparatively taking a group of Danse Macabre players and throwing them into a DnD world. I suppose if you wanted a more stable sort of a version you would simply take the powerup abilities of one system and apply them to another, as opposed to trying to convert +21 to hit into roll up to 6d6 to hit...But I think it could be managed without a great deal of hassle. Yes it would become a headache if you needed to convert Trauma and Insanity points (From 40K) into Savage Worlds language, that much is true I grant you, but it is the sort of thing that you, as the GM, would resolve prior to the session or on the spot. I had been playing Munchkin all afternoon, and had been talking to Retech earlier, and various other things which made me think that a less serious, more 'Suddenly there are monsters', would be fun. Also a game where you are trying not to level up. As to Savage Worlds, ect, with their non-linear to level up characters...Not sure, could probably draw up a set of level-up cards, drawn at random, maybe summing to a predefined total. Its not a game I massively expect to run, would be up for running it if people were interested, but yeah...

Use magic to summon something to kill that drops spaceship parts when it dies? Powerleveling RAGH!

Only when Windows crashes...So yes I run Linux. And yeah, large hard drive...larger when the old one burned out. Ok, everyone playing Crossroads: Got Ubuntu installed. Got KVIRC installing. Got my restore program installing. So yes. Tuesday should be full length, though not settled on whether I will be happy or not during the session :rolleyes: Song that came on(on my phone) just after the 5 hour 'We are checking your disk, the results will be displayed when you next log in...unless there is a problem, in which case you wasted five hours, ahahahahahahahahhahahahaha.' bit of my day, when I finally had got the house-mate's computer to get on with the install Ubuntu to the stick and was beginning. Its a rather nice 'Things turned out nice again' tune. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5s4e7TaLhY

It shows. Also I believe Dungeonal was looking for the EU3 saved game file if you still have it Dusty. Anywho, I am in a relatively foul mood for a number of reasons, not least because my computer has died and various errors with my memory stick, internet connection, windows and the computer in quest have precluded me from simply fixing it in a timely manner. However, I am slowly moving towards fixing it (Downloaded Ubuntu, went down the hill, went back up the hill, put Ubuntu onto the memory stick rather than just downloading it, and am now on my way back down the hill to install the install program on a housemates computer to install the Ubuntu install program onto the Memory stick, so that I can install Ubuntu, so I can access my file store (after 11 pm tonight when my internet usually restores to +500 bytes per second), so I can download the restore files, and install them onto the Memory stick, or a CD, so I can fix my computer with them. On the rare(90%) chance something goes wrong with all of that there will still be a session tommorow (Unless I am arrested for battering someone to death with my laptop), it will, however definately be finished by 11:50 pm (after 3 hours and 50 minutes) because I will be at the library and it closes at midnight. If I can get onto Ubuntu+Internet, but not Windows, then the session will run normally, but possibly without my usually chipper attitude. If everything works then I am sure I will catch a cold, be stuck by lightening or some other calamity....Possibly the end of days. So please be advised that if it begins raining brimstone the session will be running normally.

There's this thing where you make a point in a subtle fashion. You're not doing it. Being subtle hasn't worked before, why should it start working now. To demonstrate this point: Personally...I would be living in England so it wouldn't bother me....But if I was in her situation I would probably make a judgement call...You know...either I(she) is paranoid, or he is gonna hurt me(her). In the former then doing nothing is best, in the latter then doing something is best. And given that if she is paranoid then everything she says will lead you to the conclusion that this guy wants revenge, we can safely assume that no one on the forum will be the blindest bit of help, except for listening.

Do do do. I have been thinking in (walking down) my lab (the hill) and after much deliberation (10 minutes) I have originated (subverted) two new games (four old games). (I have been walking down the hill and after 10 minutes I subverted four old games) The first is: A Door Appears, you go Through It. Or DATI for short. Basically you take 1 game, say DnD, and then you inject those starting level characters, into a different game system (With all their old levels and such. The only change is their HP, which is converted to something reasonably the same as the people of this world, also weapon damage/enemy HP). Progressing along a normal adventure. The object of the game is to the survive until the end of the session and the winner is the player with the least levels. Sounds simple? Think again. Dying makes you level up. Also the GM will occassionally say a number/colour/something, if you fail to say that number in 5 minutes then you gain a level. Leveling up should take no more than 10 minutes, if it does, you gain a level. :thumbsup: Now you could still be terribly dull and spend 3-5 hours screenwatching and occassionally saying a number. If you do then huzzah. Basically it sounds rather entertaining, given how various people play :grin: Because it is supposed to be rapid fire I would ask that there are no complex leveling strategies. :thumbup: Game 2: Settlers of the ISS unitY Or SISSY for short. The game begins that you have each taken a shuttle(together/in groups/alone) to a massive space hulk (Large sheet of paper divided into a 10 by 10 grid, or scale). You all land in a single bay, which, by fortunately co-incidence, is always a clone-o-matic. You can then do various things; Clone yourself (produces a clone), loot the room (???), open a door (reveals a new room, up to the number of grid squares next to you), and probably other stuff. The clones are essentially automatons, so you can't make five of you then go off exploring 5 rooms per turn, but they can occupy a room/keep a door open. Occupying a room gives you whatever bonus that room gives you, and holding a door open means you can skip that room when travelling. You can also attack other people's rooms on a 1d6 to 1d6, favours the defender, basis. +mods from rooms, ect. When you reveal a room you get to choose what room you find, but once decided it stays that for the rest of the game. You can also mark a room as open to space, in which case all the clones(of all people) who are not sealed off by a door (aka not one with a clone holding it open), are sucked into space and stop providing benefits. The list of choosable rooms is decided at the beginning of each game, along with their bonuses. Not 100% complete rules, but I think we could probably play them should we want to =)

/Join #Abbey tavern /Join #Lightgate tavern /Join #Regian's tavern /Join #Caster tavern /Join #Inn tavern /Join #Inn_discussion Abbey: People who want to take part in THE QUEST Lightgate: People who want to frolic without any BIG THING going on Caster: People who want to frolic with a BIG THING going on Regian's: People who want to build, ect.

An hour. Mather, unless you plan to canablise the trees, or make silly jokes about getting wood (Settlers of Catan is a stupid game for that) I really can't see anything productive you can do with trees. Now, I am perfectly happy for you to discuss with me exactly what you want to do with trees, but unless there is some sort of plan I am gonna go with 'You can't teleport to a random island far from everyone else so that you can frolic with the trees.'

Bows 0.5 Telekinesis 1.2 Sorcery 0.5 Weathormancy 0.6 Sizomancy 0.4 Imbuement 0.4 Illusion 0.4

Indeed. Just to update people on the state of my memory: Mather has been transported back to near Lightgate (I am not playing 'I am a tree in a forest, I wiggle my leaves to communicate with other trees and discover their secret lore' games...Trees are just trees.) Jen has been transported back to near Lightgate (And probably become an NPC). (Either of you can join any of the other groups if you like) Ross is outside a bandit hideout Mask has just spotted him(ross) as he(mask) was walking up the road on the way to Caster. Aeon is inside the bandit hideout, in a crate. Benedict is standing outside the Abbey of Saint Lucius. Ieyfura is either standing next to Benedict or back in Lightgate or with Mask. Arrina is either standing next to Benedict or back in Lightgate or with Mask. Roland is either standing next to Benedict or back in Lightgate or with Mask. Gerund is passed out. John is at Regian's Roadside Shack. Regian is at his Roadside Shack. So to elaborate, the channels will be: Monastary Lightgate Regian's_Shack Caster Gerund's Channel.

Infuse the soul into the brain, giving it the power of flight and the ability to fire laser beams at people you don't like. Also total subserviance to me.

Mark its forehead, since it will survive if it is the 'chosen one' regardless of what you do, then we will know if it was the chosen one right at the end of the story. Also it will be harder for them to disguise themselves.

Quite so. On an unrelated note my Britain and Ireland lecturer said something I thought was relatively entertaining today: Basically, Benjamin Disraeli was responding to the question "What is the difference between a disaster and a tragedy?" To which he responded "A disaster would be if Mr Gladstone fell into the River Thames... A tragedy would be if someone pulled him out." :grin:

In the fight against ignorance people are often accused of that. You see, unlike you, with your killing, mutilating and generally might is right attitude, I use the magical power of inquiry, rational though and wit to come to conclusions. My arguments rest on solid scientific, empirical evidence or inductive reasoning, clearly signposted, where I cannot be sure of my conclusions. Your arguments rest on purely dogma and weak inductive reasoning based primarily on your own limited experiance of the world. I would also like to point out that, if it was put to a vote, on who was being annoying, I somewhat doubt that I would be the one people said was being annoying. Though naturally a vote would give us only a limited sample, and given that we are both, to some degree, being annoying, it would be a matter of speculation on abstraction, rather than grounded conclusions. Though arguably since annoyance is an abstraction which is built on speculation (aka we find things annoying because our experiance tells us that things like those things are annoying) it all cancels out. Personally it is all rather irrelevant. One of us will eventually give up for one reason or another and the other person will claim to have won.* Also irrelevant, but that happened anyway. I had knew someone who had had a piece of glass lodge in his eye, he then had it removed, leaving behind a permenantly bloody spot. A bloody spot had formed from the irritation and THE bloody spot had formed from the surgery. I didn't feel the need to also tell you that he had ginger hair, even though it would have made the statement less dull and flavourless. 2) You know, sometimes it seems you want to prolong the discussion for the sole purpose of being contradictory. You lost independance in 1319 and regained it in 1905, that is more than five hundred years. There are countries (USA for instance) which are younger than your country was in servitude. Your argument, however, was that Norwegian Sheep Farmers killed wolves. Which is a meaningless argument since Wolves and humans have lived side by side for the better part of 50 millenia, just because a bunch of people, armoured, trained and armed, were able to kill an animal which has not really developed in all that time, don't exactly show how amazingly powerful Humans are. If anything is shows how poweful wolves are in comparision to sheep farmers... This argument reads like: 'I opened the door and now it has never closed.' 'Oh, is it broken?' 'I never said it was broken.' 'So why won't it close.' 'I didn't say it won't close, I said it never closed in the past, since I opened it.' You see, there is this thing called language...it exists to make sure people can be understood by other people...When you start using words which don't mean what you mean to describe the things you want to mean then other people are unable to decrypt your meaning. * Actually reminds me of a card game someone designed: There are 2 types of cards: Arguements and Rebuttals You may play any card to counter any other card played, but arguments may also be played without anything already being played as an attack against the other player. The first player to successfully hit their opponent with an arguement wins. On each player's turn both players draw a card. Each player may only play 7 cards per turn or lose the game instantly.

You know, I have to agree with Mather on this one...While I agree that Ross, Mask and myself got to the top of the food chain by running away everytime anything threatened to kill us...usually to find some other humans/animals to come back and kill whatever was threatening us...I would have to say that is not how Mather got to the top of the food chain. Ergo we cannot say 'we' if it refers to the whole of humanity, since some people did get to the top of the food chain by taking bizzarely insane risk and having it pay off...How do we know that it did, because they survived. Of course this argument ignores the fact that hundreds of people died because they took the bizzarely insane risk and it didn't pay off...but because they died a) No one knew they had taken the risk b) They were called an idiot and forgotten. Hence why the internet created this: The Darwin Awards, awards for individuals who willingly sacrifice their own lives in pursuit of removing bad genes from the genepool... For example, the man who believed he could stop trains with his thoughts, but only if he was in mortal danger of getting run over by a train: http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1994-14.html You have failed miserably. Added to that , over time, to be self defeating...Indeed this very argument proves it to be self defeating. So in our conversation about eye irritants you decided to argue that you know someone who had an irritated eye and on an unrelated topic you are the only person in your class capable of beating the rest of the class up? Glad to see your argument is maintaining its coherance.... No...it still has no value. You are basing your entire argument on 'This thing happened to me today and I can extrapolate that this is ALWAYS true' I believe I more or less said that... Yes yes yes, we have all heard about your amazing ability to overcome mild amounts of discomfort. The rest of us are all quivering because of a minor headcold but you, oh great one, who endures the perils of having your eyes open for too long, are superior to us in every way... Its also blindingly irrelevant to the topic. I think that is absolutely amazing...Norwegian sheep farmers, born in 1905, managed to travel back in time to clear Norway of wolves in a time when Norway didn't exist. I do admit that they could be extremely long lived Norwegian sheep farmers from the 14th century...But I suspect the time travelling sheep farmer is more likely. Or do you mean that Sweden and Norway joined in a concerted effor to eliminate the wolf population across Scandinavia? Because that is certainly true...Though typically they would be in hunting parties, using dogs, weapons of various types...and you know, were not hunted by the wolves in return... Much less impressive though...Better to imagine a lone Norwegian, beard in one hand and a soup spoon in the other roaming the wilds of Norway, slaughting the concerted army of Wolves, which had declared war early the former spring and had burned Oslo to the ground because the Norwegians had forgotten how to be truely heroic. Indeed, without the single Norwegian capable of controlling the power of strategy and the ability to stand up against the EEoWAN (Evil Empire of Wolves Against Norwegians) all of humanity would now be under the fur encrusted paw of the wolves. Oh woe, woe is us. I reiterate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNmJqRV7LOA Quick, break Gandhi's jaw, that will stop him. It was extremely fortunate that Mather was on hand or South Africa could have been lost to the South Africans, instead of remaining part of the British Empire. On the flip side of that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escalation But hey, the Norwegian Empire is proof that you are right....Spanning the globe in the [error, century not found].

Sigh. Pain is a responce in the brain to certain stimuli. Bloodshot eyes are a responce in the eye to certain stimuli. Yes, pain is a vastly complex thing because it is an abstraction generated by the mind in responce to stimulus, or in the absense of stimulus. However that whole debate is vastly irrelevant because it doesn't matter if you are aware of your eyes being open for an excessive period or not (Evidenced by someone taping my eyes open while I was asleep, and me being perfectly fine in the morning for quite a while(about five minutes) before realising something was up, when I removed the tap and returned to blinking normally). Based on what period of time? Getting your foot behind your head allows you to do it until you stop doing it, then after a while it becomes harder to do. Basing an argument that it has 'never come back' on the evidence of a single day is bad science. Relevancy? Unless he got semi-permanant (or temporary) bloodshot eyes from having his eyes open too long I fail to see the direct relevance. From your crypic 'I was the only person who has the deficency in mental capacity to attempt to attack him' one can assume it was because you hit him...Though equally it could be that his eye is bloodshot so people are afraid of him, except you. Ultimately though, it is almost certainly irrelevant...for the same reason that the medical responce to getting shot in the leg is not the same as getting a needle stick in the leg.

I assumed it was self evident that the pain and the bloodshotness could be used interchangably... What with the whole 'It started as one thing, and then became something else' thing. If you are wondering why your eyes were irritated, and then they were not, then three things: 1) Your survival instinct kicked in and you started blinking, together with your Norwegian Instict for ignoring the blindingly obvious in the hopes of being congratulated by others on your amazing skill. 2) You moved your eyes around, allowing fluid to permate across them/The excess fluid being produced because your body goes 'Hey, irritated eye, better wash that out', which then spread over the eye by the power of surface tension/, making it less irritated. 3) You are keeping your eyes very still, causing the irritants to settle. In the same way that if something very light lands on your arm and you don't neccessarily feel it. Cue 'But Archi, my massives muscles allow me to detect solitary atoms in objects that come within 50 feet of me, so I am totally unable to understand your metaphor and by the way by lack of bloodshot eyes is probably due to my drawing skills.' (Ok, I am being fairly mean, but I am getting somewhat irritated by saying something and then people going 'Oh by Archi, that thing you said, you didn't say it.') Maybe you should try punching yourself in the eye repeatedly to see if you can equate punching yourself in the arm to keeping your eyelids up... Or you know, not draw meaningless paralles, since punching yourself in the arm is entirely different from opening your eyes, or from sticking your foot behind your head. Reason? Punching yourself does damage to the blood vessels, causing them to rupture and leak. Putting your foot behind your head stretches(irritates) some muscles and doesn't damage you(unless you rip your muscles in the process....) Keeping your eyes open irritates the blood vessels in your eyes, it doesn't cause them to rupture.

Blinking is not the same as breathing...you don't die if you don't do it. Blinking is merely there to wash detritus out of your eyes, ensure that the eye is kept reasonably well lubricated. Its also there to try to keep your eye free from infection by washing the various airborne bacteria out through one of the ducts, which name I cannot remember. The pain thing is the same as if you tried to put your foot behind your head...some discomfort while you are doing it, but once you get it there it isn't especially painful after a short while. Its just the interrim bit where your body is going 'Hey, I forsee danger ahead'...the equivilant of a red light on the dashboard. If your eyes do fall out please ask someone to post so we can add your biological distinctiveness to our own.

Attempt to soul drain the baby to become stronger/eat the brains of the people who attacked to gain their knowledge.

Country name: The Federation of Swiss Cantons Political description: Military Democracy Description: At the end of 20th century, national governments of the world collapse because of so-called unlimited democracies. These "unlimited democracies" are the fraudulent Marxian definition of value from which "Communism derives" and civil unrest due to a "pre-scientific pseudo-professional class" who called themselves Social Workers and Child Psychologists banning Corporal Punishment. The SFC is multicultural society that votes for a global leader, similar to a Representative democracy. However people of higher levels of authority also have to suffer tougher repercussions of their actions e.g. A Lieutenant could hang for making a mistake that a Private would merely be dismissed and maybe lashed for. Corporal and Capital Punishment are practiced by the government. The people of the FSC are made up of either "Citizens" or "Civilians". Everyone is born a "Civilian", and at age 16 every "Civilian" has the right to enroll for a minimal 2 year term of "Federal Service". In theory a completed term of Federal Service ensures a "Citizen" is willing to put the needs of the community before their own personal well-being. This is because Federal Service is tough and dangerous (by design). It can involve joining the Military, being a Human Guinea Pig, testing survival equipment or Manual Labour. The Federation makes it quite easy to quit a term of service before completion (even during war time), but once someone has quit they are never allowed to enroll again. This is to ensure that all volunteers are dedicated, whilst also discouraging people from leaving. The island of the same colour as Ico in the North.

Mighty Lord, preserve bandwidth from jeopardy. Take Thee now our faith and loud cry in penitence. Grant victory o'er our treacherous and cruel ISPians And to our web bring peace. O mighty Lord hear our lowly prayer, And by Thy shining LCD light. Grant us, O Lord, networks again. O mighty Lord hear our prayer and save our people Forever, forever! Orchestral Accompaniment http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12603519/Alaric/19141812Overture.mp3 (If it ever loads)

I used to get that when I wrote my mega posts, taught me to have more faith in some people, less faith in others. Anywho, Star Trek Online has to be the only, graphically intensive, online game that can be played with less than 1 kilobyte of bandwidth. Its quite refreshing to play a game that doesn't freak out because your internet isn't up to dialup standard :rolleyes: