ember3579

....... -.- Read my last 2 posts, please. Nothing else can be said.

That leaves too much to chance, though. First off, what happens if one or more of the helicopters malfunctions? What if you don't have enough fuel to get away far enough that the zombies won't be able to follow the sound of your helicopter? What if one of the undead somehow make it up to where you're perched at? And, of course, do you REALLY want to broadcast your position to bandits like that? That's part of why going on the offensive is a dangerous proposition; it can not only go real bad real fast (even by comparison to being defensive), and it gives any looters or various other bad uninfected people a beacon to follow. It's risk and reward. You can take the risk, and in the end, you'd be alot safer. And bandits do show up - so what? They still can't reach you. Obviously they could try and gun you, but if its 500 zombies and you shooting at them, looters won't last too long. I'm not sure, but I don't think that you can do this particular plan reliably without having your home base nearby. Looters would follow the helicopter, thereby finding your BOA and can plan out a way of getting in, killing you, and taking your s@#%. And if you say that the rooftop's your base, you are woefully uneducated in the ways of the zombie survival. I'm assuming we have a large community put together, of 300 armed people or more, in a huge building, such as the upper level of a mall. Trust me, it would have to be a huge group of looters to do anything. Good point about zombies following the chopper back, though. You could get over run if you attact too many. How in all the Hells are you going to support that many people without somewhere to grow food for that many people? While large, armed groups do help deter your average shady character, anybody with their wits about them could do things in such a large group that they wouldn't be able to otherwise. Also, you have a lot less control over the spread of insanity in the ranks (go watch The Mist, you'll see what I mean).

I'm willing to put hard cash on it mass-sending rickrolls, screamers, and "SUPRISE!" pics. Basically /b/ in video form. This should be interesting.

That leaves too much to chance, though. First off, what happens if one or more of the helicopters malfunctions? What if you don't have enough fuel to get away far enough that the zombies won't be able to follow the sound of your helicopter? What if one of the undead somehow make it up to where you're perched at? And, of course, do you REALLY want to broadcast your position to bandits like that? That's part of why going on the offensive is a dangerous proposition; it can not only go real bad real fast (even by comparison to being defensive), and it gives any looters or various other bad uninfected people a beacon to follow. It's risk and reward. You can take the risk, and in the end, you'd be alot safer. And bandits do show up - so what? They still can't reach you. Obviously they could try and gun you, but if its 500 zombies and you shooting at them, looters won't last too long. I'm not sure, but I don't think that you can do this particular plan reliably without having your home base nearby. Looters would follow the helicopter, thereby finding your BOA and can plan out a way of getting in, killing you, and taking your s@#%. And if you say that the rooftop's your base, you are woefully uneducated in the ways of the zombie survival.

Depending on the words, you can try to be clever/witty/funny (key point: positive) back and smile. If you don't have an easy going manner, try to feign one (at least for awhile) and put on the appearance that you think the bully's just joking around and you're joining in with a good mix self-depreciating jokes. If you're laughing at jokes you make about yourself, bully could very well lose interest. They could also just as easily step up their game until it becomes unbearable to you. That's how they operate nowadays. It's not about revenge (most of the time), it's not about some sort of "know your place" bulls@#$ that gets brought up when cliques are involved, it's about torturing your fellow student and laughing as they squirm. Until you know it, you won't ever realize why it's so hard to ignore. In all honesty, probably one of the best ways to operate when people start with the verbal abuse is to try and make them slip up somehow (doing it in front of faculty, for example), or if you prefer the more expedient method, try and piss them off when they do it so they take a swing. BE DAMN SURE YOU CAN FIGHT IF YOU DO THIS!!!!! It helps immensely if you beat him within an inch of his life for his wasted effort, but it just makes it worse if it's YOU who gets their [wagon] kicked. Planning it out to where any buddies of his can't jump in also helps.

That leaves too much to chance, though. First off, what happens if one or more of the helicopters malfunctions? What if you don't have enough fuel to get away far enough that the zombies won't be able to follow the sound of your helicopter? What if one of the undead somehow make it up to where you're perched at? And, of course, do you REALLY want to broadcast your position to bandits like that? That's part of why going on the offensive is a dangerous proposition; it can not only go real bad real fast (even by comparison to being defensive), and it gives any looters or various other bad uninfected people a beacon to follow.

Yeah, I think we should lay up a little bit off of Riku. He just hasn't seen real verbal abuse. Sadly, chances are, it would take some interesting methods to show him, but there are ways without directing it at him. I hate referencing TV shows especially in things like this, but a decent example of a quick bit of verbal abuse would be the House episode where Cuddy (the female boss of House) is given temporary custody of a sick kid through some randomness, and when he gets progressively worse and worse (this is right after she tried in vitro to get pregnant, it failed), House (when he's mad that he wasn't allowed to do something he thought necessary by Cuddy) says something to the effect of "It's a good thing you didn't get pregnant, because you suck as a mother." To you or me, that wouldn't be very serious. To her at the time, though, it would be basically the most psychologically excruciating thing to have ever happened. THAT is what verbal abuse is. It's basically psychological torture, minus the interrogation room. The words change from person to person, but the effect and purpose remains the same.

If it's been reduced to verbal abuse and 'backstabbing' then what's your problem now? It honestly cannot be that hard to ignore someone saying something about your mother. Instead of holding grudges against these people why don't you be the better man and turn the other cheek? After the first couple times, you have a point. After getting verbally [bleep] slapped for half a decade, though, you grow tired of it. Even I have limits.

Riku, for the overwhelming majority of people on this planet, the "sticks and stones" line is one of the biggest piles of bulls#$@ that have ever been told. TRUST me, you'll know if you see it. I used to get bullied physically a fair amount. A bit of it may have been because I was a little snot, but most of it was probably because I was easy to do it to. Nowadays, it's verbal, stab-you-in-the-back twoface stuff that I primarily deal with. In all honesty, I've been practically drooling over the possibility that one of these people would take a swing. At the very least, people would know that I'm willing to fight back, and depending on my luck/skill in fighting (haven't had much actual experience), might be too scared to do it again. I basically pass half of my entire free time running through various scenarios for that possibility. I am fairly low on the training scale (was almost either orange or green belt in karate before I had to leave class for school work a couple months ago), but I think that's still above what most of these redneck special education inbreds would be able to deal with easily.

Technically, 4th degree (burnt down to the bone) is the worst, but yeah. That first one was just insult to injury, but it might have saved your [wagon] that you got caught before you fell right down.

Zombies are just an environmental hazard, much like adding a [bleep]e wall or acid showers. Speaking of which..... Do any of you want to supply a good floor plan for an arena? Preferably, it's fairly large (about as big as NYC), has various floors and hidden areas, and has a decent dispersal of various things, like traps and beneficial items. I don't have a suitable program to design this, but I think that I'm not the only one who can come up with something. :twisted:

No no no. Chavs get metalheads and emos get shallow preps. That way there will be fighting amongst the groups :) And then nerds get goths. :lol: No, nerds get jocks. Goths go with the... they'll just sit back and hate society. what about the [bleep]s? and the wal mart kids? FREE FOR ALL. Damn it, Lenin, I was JUST about to say that! Anyway, I think that it should just be everybody versus everybody. That's always the most fun. Everyone starts out with a basic weapon, they're dispersed out through a very large area (takes a couple days to go from one end to the other), and various weapons and other fun/necessary things (food, tracking devices, communication devices, etc.) are stocked in scattered spots. Have enough cameras that every square inch of the arena's covered. THAT, my friends, is fun.

That's why you don't let them leave the arena until they either have visibly lost or they admit they lost. Let the bloodbath commence! :twisted:

I don't got s#!@ on some of these, but I'll contribute anyway. When I was about 10, my uncle tried to teach me how to ride a bicycle. I could go comparatively reliably in a straight line, but turning was near impossible for me. Well, we tried going down the little side-road next to our house. I went into the gravel, and skidded for about 3-4 feet. My hands, legs, and knees were pretty ground up. I think I had some rocks in some of them, too. Basically, my uncle sent me into the house, and I sat in the living room trying to focus elsewhere than the pain. Apparently, whatever gravel that was in my now-wide open wounds were flushed out by the bloodflow. It healed fairly quickly, but it hurt like a motherf#$%er for about 2 weeks.

Let's do it. Video tape it and put it on YouTube. Hell yes. Throw in some melee weapons and close range firepower and we got ourselves some ENTERTAINMENT. :twisted: Emos might win. They enjoy the pain. But the chavs stick together to thug the emos, y'know? Give the emos some knives, I'm sure they can work wonders with them. I'm thinking of that precisely. Emos with bladed weapons versus chavs with bludgeons. So much FUN. :twisted:

Let's do it. Video tape it and put it on YouTube. Hell yes. Throw in some melee weapons and close range firepower and we got ourselves some ENTERTAINMENT. :twisted:

..... :wall: :wall: :wall: Do I even need to say it? Can you give us an update on your current situation? I personally think that you really should run some of my ideas by a counselor or a similar authority figure and see what they think of them. Maybe they can provide some of their own.

..... Sometimes, the standard legal justice system just doesn't cut it. I'd suggest trying to catch one of them on their own, and making sure they know to never do this again. Just work down the list. Sometimes, one must be a bit brutal in order to ensure atrocities don't happen, even (maybe especially) comparatively small ones like that. Seriously, ganging up and beating the [cabbage] out of someone for fun isn't cool, and it really should earn someone a commensurate punishment. I'll leave the ideas up to you.

This is the website. Yeah, the address is somewhat childish and reminiscent of certain "SUPRISE!" websites, but it's legit. What I'm wondering, though, is what you know about this. I heard about it from someone I met at work (apparently he makes around 50K USD off of this, without factoring in bonuses), and it looks promising from what little I've seen. However, I'm still a bit standoffish about it. I'm still not entirely certain as to just how they generate this money (maybe it works similar to them hosting your own personal online store, they ship the stuff, you get the majority of the cash plus benefits in the form of points, but I'm not 100% on it), but what I do know is that it at least appears to be very useful. If anybody has heard anything about this group (or even better, had experience with them), I'd like to know what you know. Thanks for any info. If I find that it's 100% legit and that I can get started on it (at earliest sometime mid-late summer), maybe I can help anybody else interested get started.

Never, never, NEVER mess with someone unrelated to a personal problem because they're connected to the opposing party. Like, for example, punching someone's little brother because they punched you. If it's blatant that you're going to win against someone (7'(2.2 m), 250 lb human wall versus a midget, for example), don't pick a fight with them, and try and show some restraint if they prove that they can't be dealt with without fighting. This does not apply if they do something that would warrant a public lynching (rape, mass murder, infanticide, etc.). If you and another person decide to have a "fun fight" for only bragging rights, don't try and cheat. Make sure that you set the ground rules and abide by them. It's alright to bring friends, but only if they know to stay out of it until the fight's done or the other person breaks one of the spoken rules. However, you earn double bragging rights if you kick the other dude's [wagon] even if they cheat and you don't (for an example, he grabs a crowbar mid-fight, you still beat him senseless). Video recordings of better quality than cell-phone are recommended. That's about it that I can think of.

That's what I'm going to do, actually. But hopefully on a carrier, subs are just way to small and womanless. Wait a damn minute, YOU want to be in the military? Oh, Lord God Almighty, we are all screwed. Just as a random question, which military is it? Might help tell us when to start saying our goodbyes. Personally, I'd suggest an Electronics Technician job. It opens more doors, it's easier to find work after the military (few civilian groups need ATs very much), and you don't have to get motion sickness every 2 weeks (flying or sailing). It's also somewhat less complicated than AT, but it's also in some ways more demanding of your attention. Remember, the majority of people who go out on missions are going to be using the things that an ET works on. Sorry about piling on the pressure, but the military's something that you simply can't afford to not know what you're getting into.

I'm gonna laugh my [wagon] off when he comes back and sees this. :D

This.... Doesn't surprise me. At all. I don't think there's any other way to interpret that. :P The above poster has it right too. I wouldn't even flip the switch. It's just not something that I'd do. Things like that are things that I reserve for special circumstances, such as like what the biological dad went through in Taken. THAT, in my opinion, would tear open anybody's floodgates against sadism in a heartbeat if it happened to them if it would help get their loved one back quicker and safer.

*in response to Jaziek's second vid* Om nom nom. :lol: :twisted: It looks like the fence just bit off half of his lower leg. Smooth move, dipshiat. Ten out of ten! :thumbsup:

I just now came up with an idea that might help with showing them what they're doing. It's a bit hardball, but it SHOULD have favorable results, at least in the long run. It might get them REALLY pissed off at you for pulling it, though. This is what you need; Principal's or Counselor's go-ahead and support Audio recorder that you can hide on your person and still be able to pick up various things in the room One fake report card with bad grades on it You can probably guess the plan from that. Some random day, you retrieve the fake card from the office, then show your parents it and pretend like it's real (the recorder should be on at this point). Play along with them and record their response. Try and do what would come naturally were this real. At the nearest possible juncture, show the recording to the counselor/principal. From there, they should know where to go. My personal suggestion is to have them think that there's a personal meeting between you, your parents, and the school faculty the next day because of the sudden drop in grades, but have that be the confrontation. If you schedule this nearby the actual report card day, then it should have the best results, especially because you'd have your real grades on hand. Remember, YOU NEED TO HAVE THE FACULTY ON BOARD WITH THIS PLAN!!!