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Even better, get one of those spy cameras. They can make a full mike and speaker system fit into a pen, I think you can sneak it into the classroom somehow unnoticed.

Just something random. This is one of those "You want equality? You got it." scenarios. I'd actually be interested in seeing how that would turn out.

Yeah, you need to bring an audio recorder to class and put it up on youtube or something, we NEED to hear this for ourselves. I just spent like 20 minutes looking through google, nada.

Perhaps you should read the whole thread. I'm trying :P That's an issue: i'm trying but with the course difficulty I can't really do it. And that is precisely why the "work through it" strategy doesn't really work in this case. I'm sorry if I seem to be repeating myself, but you really should try either negotiations, reasoning with them (use facts as to why what they're doing is hurting you, but DON'T MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING TALKED DOWN TO!!!), or finally, bringing in a counselor or similar authority figure. Preferably, you'll work down that list as they prove useless. If even outside assistance doesn't help, well, the only real help we can give is ideas for your rebellion. Not the best of ideas to try that route, but it should remain on the table as an absolute last resort. Make SURE that you try anything your counselor says might work after they talk with your parents first! If they say "just deal with it" or something similar, make sure they understand that that wouldn't help. Tell them all of what you've tried. Even better, keep a chronological list of tried actions and their results written down.

Perhaps you should read the whole thread.

This is basically what I'm talking about, but in better wording. Good job. =D>

You want him to show his neurotic, possibly psychotic parents this thread? Do you have HOLES for eyes? Read the whole thing again and tell me how you think it would turn out. -.- Negotiation should be attempted first of all, I think that was already covered. Once that is passed, you can try bringing in some outside assistance, like a counselor or something of a similar standing. If by some chance it goes past that, well, my only suggestions would be some sort of rebellion, because obviously they are incapable of listening to reason. Perhaps if they learned first hand what sh@# they're pulling, they might actually take the hint. Just keep cranking it up GRADUALLY until something gives. Just be able to recognize when enough's enough. That should prove you better than your parents, at least.

What he has to lose is 3 years plus of freedom. He's still a freshman. Which is PRECISELY why I say bring in a counselor or other respected authority figure before you start playing hardball.

*Imagines life as a Street Fighter character...* :cry: Now I wish it was true. Fortunately for you,with right techniques and a ridiculously stupid opponent,ribs can break that easily.Was watching Human Weapon all day today.All the science was confusing,but I do know you can break bones with kicks. I was thinking more of the the jumping in the way they do and how cool a Horiukin (sp?) would look It's spelled Horyuken (I think it translates to Fire Dragon Blade). Proper training and lucky/precise hits can break bones, too. But yeah, chances are that if someone got a broken bone, they were being amateurish or just plain stupid.

Hey, trapical. Good to have you back. :thumbsup: I find life very boring in my area, but this is mainly because I don't have the ability to do anything on my own. I have a feeling that once I move on to college for my chosen vocation (I'm not sure what the actual name of it is in the books, but roboticist), I'll be able to have more fun. While I probably wouldn't (more like can't) do some of the things that trapical does, I'd definitely be into paintball and various robot competitions (I'm focusing on combat type robots), and perhaps various combat sports, or even some personal training. I'm just hoping that there's more than a few combat junkies in the college town I'm moving to. If not, well, I'm going to have to be a little more creative.

Just know what you're getting into. While it might not look like it now, there's a very real chance that you could get into an even worse situation than you are now if you move into a place that's new and unfamiliar. It's probably not as large as some might say, but it's definitely larger than what the "average person" thinks. If you want to kill 2 birds with one stone, try finding a high-ranked college that's also suitably far away from your parents that you'll at least get a break from them. I'd also suggest trying to get some sort of job so you can pay for it without assistance from them. That way, you can tell them to f$#@ off and have little repercussions.

1 should be done regardless for general purposes (you never know what curveballs might be thrown your way), but 2 shouldn't be necessary unless if your parents are absolutely freaking nuts which, by the looks of their jobs, they're passable enough to where they're not THAT bad. I still suggest you get an outside trusted authority figure who knows you and your situation to try and talk to them. At the very least, it'll tell you how bad they are at reason, which you might be able to turn to your advantage if done right.

I agree with you. I'm just putting it out there as a next-to-last resort. Really, it should only become an option once all manners of reason are exhausted. That's what that sort of thing is for, really; when your parents prove themselves incapable of parenting to any real extent (these examples are on the extreme end of "sheltering"; not really what the people who thought of foster care had in mind, but it works), you should be able to move and find parents who actually would be beneficial. Of course, this by nature utterly resets everything related to the parenting stage. You really need to build up some physical, hard evidence of their insane overprotectiveness in order to be taken at all seriously. I imagine that these cases don't usually go very well when it's a "he said, she said".

..... Two words; outside assistance. Find someone who both knows you and is in a respected position (counselor, teacher, principal, maybe an officer if you know any, etc.) and get them to take a crack at it. If it doesn't work, you can always try and get some foster parents, with your authority figure friend providing evidence that they're too mental to be good parents. The only other option could very easily be more trouble than it's worth.

I HATE, HATE, HATE how special ed kids are "not responsible for their actions." What the [bleep]? They need to learn their lesson before they do it to a stree thug and get killed. I'll elaborate... Essentially this fatty kid put me in a headlock. I elbowed him in the ribs, turned around, and broke my hand on the side of his head. It's called adrenaline... We had a sub teacher, I got sent to the principal's office and suspended. As soon as the teacher heard it got taken off my record, and the other kid got a detention. Might I ask what the other kid's physical condition was? I'd guess broken/cracked ribs and a concussion, along with maybe some bleeding and possibly a cracked skull where you smacked him (I've hit a metal locker hard enough to leave a dent and didn't damage my fist like that). Also, while I understand the sentiment, a LITTLE restraint may have been more prudent; I view people with that sort of condition little more than super-sized kids. A little spank when they do bad stuff is fine, just beating the sh#% out of them is not.

Yeah, zombies go after ANYTHING that looks like it's moving or is noticeable. This includes noise, light, smells, and vibrations. If you don't want the horde to be in your face, you keep a low profile. Anything that would alert survivors to your presence alerts zombies as well. Remember that.

If my parents done that, then I don't think that I'd be able to retain my composure. The fact that you haven't done anything violent to get them to be reasonable shows that you're a lot more patient than I am. I'd honestly try reasoning with them first, show them just how nuts they're being with this. I'd also try showing them some of the things that you've been doing. If that doesn't work, negotiations might work, or some other form of easing them off (like getting them to trust your friends when you're out with them, for example). If that doesn't work, try and get someone else to reason with them, maybe a teacher or other authority figure. If that doesn't work, well, I think that only leaves rebellion. Just be prepared to literally fight for your freedom if that's the case.

Not sure i understand the question. Could possibly be on reserve status? That allows them to go to school while in the military. BTW, in a lot of cases the Military will foot the bill fully for Lasik eye surgery. As for the authority yes sometimes its tough, and sometimes its total BS and you know its BS. I think the authority problem mainly comes through Bootcamp/Basic Training. You gotta suck it up and just let them chew you out. Its really not that bad. You learn not to mess up and you learn how to do things efficiently. You won't get the yelling if you are doing your job plain and simple. For all those with "problems with authority", i guarantee you a couple of hours with a Marine Corps Drill Instructor and you will realize you will have no problems with authority. He will straighten you out quick. I invite anyone to spend a night on Parris Island. :) I've seen a Sgt punch a PFC in the stomach because he wasn't standing at parade rest while speaking to him. Needless to say that PFC was always at Parade Rest while talking to Sgt from then on out. I have one of my drill instructors on myspace lol, he's a year older then me and seeing him still sends shivers down my spine. Anyone going Navy Officer will get to meet a USMC DI. ;) It all really isn't that bad. Its just a routine you gotta get into. After a while you don't hear the yelling you know what you have to do. Alright. I'm planning to go into a college nearby for a robotics degree, and I want to know how valuable I'd be after that. I'm wanting to keep a hold on most of my general ideas for until after I know how to actually get it operable, but I don't see much harm in telling you that my main focus is likely to be ground-based combat units, with some possible flight capability. Those are a lot more resilient, and are better for general use (can't use a Predator in an urbanized area very well). It's a good thing to hear that the branches would foot Lasik surgery. I got 20-70 in my left eye, around 20-1200 in my right. As you can see, I'm in serious need of some eye readjustment. I'm still trying to figure out why I'm so accurate with firearms despite that, though. :? Basic's supposed to be rough. I've heard from more than a few recruiters that the hardest part of their military career was Basic. It really is not something that everyone can handle. Hopefully my time in AFJROTC will help with that if/when I sign up. The only real problems I have with authority people is when they think that just because they attached a piece of shiny metal or a colored cloth to their shirt means they can be an [wagon] all they want, without actually earning any respect. Thankfully, the majority of the upper ranks in the military isn't like that, from my knowledge. As long as that's correct, I should do fine. I'm not real sure the prior training pre military will help you that much. Maybe once you hit the fleet you can cut some of the Military's BS SOP (standard op procedures) off but other then that they really train you how they want you trained and train you with what you need to know. Everything else is for your own benefit. I know the airforce goes by manuals quite a bit especially dealing with aircraft, the Marines would rather ghetto-rig it so long as it works. So how wanted will you be? Probably not any more then another guy that could handle the job without the training. How useful will you be? Possibly a bit more so then that same guy in the fleet. The Marines are very limited in their resources from the government, every other branches have really cool toys and some really cool jobs that the Marines don't have. We just don't have the budget like they do so its hard to really tell you that your skills won't be totally useful. They might be great for some position the air force has that i don't know about. I'm just speculating on general military terms, they train you like they want you trained. Sounds like you would do good in a weapons development program, do they have those? No idea. I'm not sure how they do the whole lasik thing. I think you gotta be in already and then get it, not sure i havn't really checked into it much, just known some people to get it. A lot of the time the brass that abuse their power are the ones that come straight from OCS. Mustangs as officers can be really squared away and pretty easy going on their men. Mustang refers to a person who was prior service or prior enlisted that then got commissioned instead of going from college straight to OCS. They've been in the enlisted boots and know whats going on. Boot/Basic is the hardest part. At least i've found that. Other then a 8-12 month deployment...but even then deployments are actually pretty fun. Not a lot to do but you find stuff to do and usually have a good time with the guys over there. Not to mention you can make some pretty serious money (Military wise). If i had the choice of another deployment or going through boot again i'd probably take the deployment. Bootcamp was hell. Granted i did go through Marine Corps recruit training, the hardest of the branches but the others arn't a laughing matter. They are tough to anyone not used to the lifestyle. (J)ROTC will or should help for anyone going in. It has its differences but it gives you an idea of chain of command, drill, etc. Some basics. I went in not knowing anything. I learned fast. The biggest thing about Boot/Basic is how you adjust. Try and adjust as fast as possible to the daily routine and its just a waiting game because you've already won. Its pretty smooth after that. Its just that first hump you gotta get over when you get there. Waking up there to someone screaming "Lights lights lights, lights lights lights" and having the lights flicked on, while trying to make it on line in about 10 seconds is pretty horrid and definitely not something i did on a daily basis before recruit training. Sorry for all the long posts, i just enjoy my job. ;) You see, here's the problem. With some of the things that I want to do, I find it unlikely that I'd be able to do it with any real ability with just a few weeks/months of basic military cram school. Also, the college I'm going to (Marshall) looks like they're fairly proficient in general mechanics at least, so I might be at least a little bit better at it than would be possible otherwise. For example, I'm thinking that building a powered suit that is worn and uses pressure plates on the inside to both allow the wearer to control it as normal and be able to feel a moderate amount of what goes on outside of the suit might be useful. It increases the effectiveness of units almost immediately, without needing to make room for something as bulky or large as a full-out vehicle, AND it's fairly straightforward in operation. Of course, I find it unlikely for me to learn how to do that properly in cram school, no matter how good that school is. I think it's only fair that they wait until my application's on file and signed before they pay for Lasik. They want SOME sort of benefit for spending money on me, I think. I'm thinking of maybe going straight into Officer School after college. HOWEVER, while I'd still do work on robotic-style stuff, I'd want to be where I could put it to use myself. According to what little I was told, most officers (save SEALS and comparable fields) are practically forced to stay back. That doesn't sit well with me; I'm designing the weapons, I want to be able to stand next to the people who'd use them to see their effectiveness, at least. See my problem? I have no problem with long posts. It's actually refreshing to find someone so into what they do.

What sort of appeal would BEES have for the zombie horde? Besides, there's 3 flaws in your reasoning; 1) how would they get infected, 2) is it even possible for anything besides humans to contract the zombie plague, and 3) how would a ZOMBIE catch bees? I'm presuming that you're keeping the hives substantially high off the ground that nobody on the ground could get to them without climbing equipment. You also still have yet to explain to me just how you plan on doing this. A fairly high tree fortress would take a very long time to even get started on. Presuming that you have the average advance warning of 2-3 days (or even a full month, if you want to push it, unlikely with Cali's population), how do you plan on building it AND keeping safe while doing so? Hell, for that matter, where are you getting the materials? I don't think you can process redwood into materials THAT fast.

No, WoW based MMOs piss you off. There ARE ways to make an MMO not a huge grindfest. It's just that corporations make more money from things that force you to waste time on them.

Not sure i understand the question. Could possibly be on reserve status? That allows them to go to school while in the military. BTW, in a lot of cases the Military will foot the bill fully for Lasik eye surgery. As for the authority yes sometimes its tough, and sometimes its total BS and you know its BS. I think the authority problem mainly comes through Bootcamp/Basic Training. You gotta suck it up and just let them chew you out. Its really not that bad. You learn not to mess up and you learn how to do things efficiently. You won't get the yelling if you are doing your job plain and simple. For all those with "problems with authority", i guarantee you a couple of hours with a Marine Corps Drill Instructor and you will realize you will have no problems with authority. He will straighten you out quick. I invite anyone to spend a night on Parris Island. :) I've seen a Sgt punch a PFC in the stomach because he wasn't standing at parade rest while speaking to him. Needless to say that PFC was always at Parade Rest while talking to Sgt from then on out. I have one of my drill instructors on myspace lol, he's a year older then me and seeing him still sends shivers down my spine. Anyone going Navy Officer will get to meet a USMC DI. ;) It all really isn't that bad. Its just a routine you gotta get into. After a while you don't hear the yelling you know what you have to do. Alright. I'm planning to go into a college nearby for a robotics degree, and I want to know how valuable I'd be after that. I'm wanting to keep a hold on most of my general ideas for until after I know how to actually get it operable, but I don't see much harm in telling you that my main focus is likely to be ground-based combat units, with some possible flight capability. Those are a lot more resilient, and are better for general use (can't use a Predator in an urbanized area very well). It's a good thing to hear that the branches would foot Lasik surgery. I got 20-70 in my left eye, around 20-1200 in my right. As you can see, I'm in serious need of some eye readjustment. I'm still trying to figure out why I'm so accurate with firearms despite that, though. :? Basic's supposed to be rough. I've heard from more than a few recruiters that the hardest part of their military career was Basic. It really is not something that everyone can handle. Hopefully my time in AFJROTC will help with that if/when I sign up. The only real problems I have with authority people is when they think that just because they attached a piece of shiny metal or a colored cloth to their shirt means they can be an [wagon] all they want, without actually earning any respect. Thankfully, the majority of the upper ranks in the military isn't like that, from my knowledge. As long as that's correct, I should do fine.

Are you saying school employees didn't really earn their right to boss kids around? He's not, but I'm willing to say that for about half of them. Just because they got a diploma in their hand does NOT mean they should be allowed to teach. If you'll forgive the out-there comparison, there's quite more people like Dolores Umbridge (Harry Potter character) than you think. EDIT: Oh, I forgot. Probably the biggest difference between a civilian authority figure and a military authority figure is in how they became one. With civilian jobs, it's for the most part luck of the draw; also, people who hire don't pay much attention to the character of the person if they can kiss [wagon] good enough. However, the military is precisely the opposite. People whose main qualifications are polishing their superiors' knobs and being a complete jerk to their subordinates do NOT survive long. Mainly because military authority has to ante up a lot more often.

Drow, there's really only one thing that comes to mind when I hear that. You like this teacher, don't you? There's 2 reasons that that could be; either she's drop dead gorgeous, or she's actually very very nice. Which is it? :D

Might I ask why she was throwing dictionaries at you? The big thing that comes to mind is if you were trying to talk in 1337-speak IRL in English class, but I don't really know. Biggest thing I've been CAUGHT doing in class was probably just either cussing or playing a video game. I'm not really too much of a bad boy, despite the fact that I look like I'm about ready to whip out an AK-47 in the middle of the school most of the time (think a tall Gaara with black hair).

Kreig, do you know how wanted someone whose going to college for a robotics field is in the various American branches? I haven't been answered on that yet.