You dont no much about playerkillers do you?... They need atleast 31 pray if they're going to be good playerkillers... :roll: About a days work, but keep it up. sorry, where did you get that from... there was a topic about this and it showed that str was better every time. you deffinetly DONT need prayer to be "good". yeah, i would say start over, u have 3 more combat lvls then you should have, you could get 9 more str lvls instead of the prayer. no offence but you really should, this coming from experience... So are we giving away free d weapons and whips now? Think about it, a 15% increase in pray at 80 strength, w/o pot is 92 strength - I think, taking into account the hitpoints and cbs gained from strenght, pray is a good thing to have... Unless you're going to be one of those level 30 playerkillers who want full iron. :roll: Good pkers needing at least 31 prayer? I don't think so. Also I would start over, you will regret that name Gl all the same