the ultimate way for training considering your attack is 60 or just a bit more would be Dragon scim dragon b axe spec 2 doses of sup att (only on first spec after its just 1 zip) voila ... nothing more to debate bout ok ok ... if u have at least santa u could use str pots and instead of d b axe d dager++ spec d long is just as aged weapon as r2h in f2p --- there is really no need for this topic since it shouldd be known from the moment there was a quest update: monkey madness - only excuse for d long now is - I wont bother doin the quest coz soon i can wear whip