Ahhh i'll whine about whiners before they get ahold. "DI wins! Yayayayayay!" "ZF wins! Yayayayayay!" "Cheaters!" Ok, now, what can we get from this? Yes, good job, absolutly nothing! The two most powerful clans now get to test thier swearing ability and thier rhetoric! Why can't we just call it a "Draw", Ignore its existance or abolish the clan ratings? If DI provides legitimate proof of ZF members participating in cheating, not other clans cheating, then we can have nothing other than a Draw. As it stands now it is a draw or ZF winning. Urban Oke is just one person, yes he cannot tip the balance, yes he cheated and caused his clan to forfeit. For some reason I believe that "No coming back," means no coming back, how in the world did I come to that conclusion? :shock: Take the draw or give ZF the win, there is not much else you can do. (Yes im a ZF member, no I don't want ZF #1...noobs and all showing up to flood the valley.)