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  1. I believe the minimal lvls for everything are either 30 or no requirement..

     

     

     

    but I would really suggest getting a decent lvl before trying - when I was 50- I had a hard time passing the barriers. + agility is very, very usefull when runecrafting!

  2. wait, how does the number of days you keep the stuff make you differences in money? I didn't find anything about that inthe guide from tipit..

     

     

     

     

     

    Isn't it just the total ammount of money invested - so if you remove your stuff, but add money accordingly it keeps doing things at the same rate?

     

     

     

    ow and how does this line fit:

     

    They do not gather each day, but rather accumulate "work" and the percentages of what you receive are based on your settings on the FINAL gathering day before you collect.
    this would say that I could also forget about my kingdom first for 3 months and then work 1 day hard to get my percentage back to 100%.. - it's even bold in the tipit guide..
  3. at 71 no agility pots it took me the first time 5 runs and the second time 13 runs.. miracly i didn't fail on the way back of my first run ;p (while it's even usefull to fail there then, since there are less monsters actually downstairs)

  4. ow sorry for my little information..

     

     

     

    Well I'm currently lvl 73 magic and well alching = booooring I hate doing things over and over again, slayer gives me the needed "difference" with it's small task based structure..

     

     

     

    Well and I don't want to lvl mage, I want to lvl slayer without lvling combat..

     

     

     

    as for the assignements - I just want to have a "general" opinion, burthroped tasks I wouldn't mage anyway.. But the things like abbys specters, dragons, trolls and that kind of stronger monsters I would mage.

     

     

     

    So mystic is better there, but would it cover the cost of the runes (ow I'm going to fire bolt them with a chaos ring equiped)?

  5. hi I was wondering something:

     

     

     

    if I would get ahrims and started slaying (slayer monsters) with magic would the loot I get from my slayer monsters (I use the fairy master) cover the costs for the runes and the repairing of ahrims?

     

     

     

    Or would I be better off with just using mystic/splitbark + safe spotting?

  6. well if you keep bumping like that you'll never grow enough to be a bird :P - why bumping in 1 minut?

     

     

     

     

     

    as for your question: use another program like hypercam (which I use) or any other recording tool (search a bit with google)

  7. strength (or any other melee attack) I did at the goblins north falador... However with the "recent" update the goblins fight each other and it might not be a good spot anymore..

     

     

     

    range: obviously minotaurs.. Maybe later you might want to move to hillies if you think minotaurs are getting dull. (but even at 70 range, I train best at minotaurs).

     

     

     

    mage: well just do the bolt spells.. Or high alch/curse if you don't want to have hp xp.

  8. what I would like to see is some kind of "competition" servers..

     

     

     

    Servers which consist with a 2-3 year period, and then check who has the best levels.. And then another period, but every character is been reset..

     

    This would be really good to have and you would have a real goal to achieve! However I think before this can happen runescape needs to be "reformed" a bit. (the slower skills like slayer + runecrafting need a bit too be sped up.. levels should be achieved a bit faster on overal..)

  9. well no, why?

     

     

     

    1 reason: powertraining!

     

     

     

    slayer is currently the only skill which is "impossible" to powertrain by doing 1 thing over and over and over again..

     

     

     

    with slayer dart you will get people who will do the dart continuasly at something like the hob goblins just to train slayer.. And slayer will become another buyable skill

  10. mario games... Good times, I still remember as a kid playing them on a NES..

     

     

     

    Well I currently own a GBA with 3 mario games on it (super mario world 2, yoshis island and mario kart) which I still play a lot!

     

     

     

    The problem with the new consoles is that the community who buys/uses these consoles are too much focused on "3d" and graphics for a mario 2d games to be popular.. And mario IS 2d, if you make it 3d you will lose the whole "retro" aspect of the game and for me it isn't fun anymore..

  11. ....

     

    i followed, thinking it was a scamm, and i could report him.

     

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    you know I don't like that kind of attitude (following just so you can report someone..)

     

     

     

    but nice thing indeed.

     

     

     

    my best moment was after being hacked I got lots of stuff back from my clan! <3:

     

     

     

    (though my worst happened after that again: being hacked again :XD: )

  12. I know you're saying that... But there isn't a magical way to see if somebody is an autoer FOR SURE. Don't say now "well they are lvl 3's standing there the whole time, and doing nothing else! - maybe that's what I like?

  13. could you please translate that to english?? I'm not saying this often, but I find it hard to understand what you mean here..

     

     

     

    So you want people to stop buying from stores? Why, cause you can buy it then? Sounds a bit hypocritical doesn't it?

  14. Maybe the Dchain will need the visage to be upgraded, and will almost match 3rd age plate def wise?

     

     

     

    but anyway, only a very small fraction of runescape has the liberty to say that the game is easy. Do you have a fire cape? all 3rd age sets? all quests? total lvl over 2000? phat set? if not then don't say anything =;

     

     

     

    rofl I neither have those.. yet I think runescape is waay to easy..

     

     

     

    the only ting you ever need for the "goals" you wrote above is time! -lot's of time! it's just doing the same thing over and over again.. I define this not as "hard", hard in my opinion is something which needs a quick reaction, or very clever thinking! (or both)

  15. though no longer retired (started playing again this week) - though I am in no way playing as much as I used to anymore (only like 10-15 mins a day now..)

     

     

     

     

     

    When did you stop playing?

     

    well only a few weeks ago, shortly after the "third party update" happened..

     

     

     

     

     

    Why did you stop playing?

     

    well a couple of factors, I was hacked by then (well twice, first time it my clan gave me back almost everything, even a little bit more maybe!), I still don't know how though, installed anti virus/software cleaners for ÃÆââââ¬Ã¡Ãâì150,- yet nothing found.

     

    But I wouldn't quit for that stupid small reason, I still had my stats and I would be able to get everything back! No instead I stopped mainly for the reason I think JAGEX is going the wrong way! instead of helping us programmers creating "fan programs"/third party programs it started restricting it! I still hope runescape would ever implement a macro system like in wow (I don't play that, but I do have written a dozen macroes for it!). Or even being able to create our own interface - I for example like it to have my inventory on the top within a dropdown menu.. And I would be able to create it if jagex did allow it and told us programmers how the data works!

     

    thirdly I was thinking that runescape became to repetitive. Skills aren't skills! - you only need to be able to click something over and over again. No skill or thinking is required in runescape! I hope runescape gets more "skill" parts at which it's difficult to beat the game!

     

     

     

     

     

    Do you still keep up with the updates?

     

    yeah I hope to see an update which helps us programmers 1 day

     

     

     

     

     

    Do you still log on occasionally?

     

    every day about 10-15 minuts

     

     

     

     

     

    How has your life changed?

     

    Well I started working on a game.. Got even more addicted to programming and am no-lifing now to finish my game (which I might start selling - I still love the idea of earning my living by indie programming).

     

     

     

     

     

    What do you do on the computer now?

     

    programming, playing (creating mods) for UT/WC III

     

     

     

    Are there moments when you want to start playing runescape again?

     

    yup just "started"..

     

     

     

     

     

    EDIT: to the reply above, JAVA is one of the least limited programming languages! - The only limit is that runescape wants the game to be played through a browser which makes it processing wise very bad!

  16. i think what jagex should do is make it so that trees, ores, fishing spots and everything dont grow back/apear again in the same place... the place that it would grow back would be so random that it would be basicly impossible to make an autoer for it. the skillers would easily be able to see where the trees grew back (or any other person hoo played rs for fun).

     

     

     

    the only bad thing is that it would make it harder for people to find the tree first, but it wouldnt be too much harder... and it would be worth getting rid of the vast majority of autoers. and it kinda makes since... trees normaly dont grow back in the exact same place irl, but yea.

     

     

     

    this would be easily aplyed to woodcutting, but it could be aplyed to combat (the monster respons in a different place everytime), mining (the ore apears in different spots everytime), prayer (if you berry too many bones in the ground in one spot you have to move to a different spot to berry the rest), and many more things.

     

     

     

    i cant think of any ways to make an autoer work for those situations... can anyone else?

     

     

     

     

     

    this would work... for some time..

     

     

     

    However like I mentioned in my previous post, this isn't really "not repetitive".. Such an ore spawn can be "seen"/prosseced by an autoer just as easy as it can be by a human player.

     

     

     

    The only thing where a human mind beat a computer mind, and this is what we're talking about when trying to defeat autoers. Is at (rapid) evolving areas! and currently the only thing I can think of which is really "new" is letting "other" players compete for it too, as those other players will evolve to become better, but the autoers won't and this will cause the autoers to get less and less good....

     

     

     

    Another thing is to completely rewind the runescape engine! I've been thinking of making it so that the xp you earn/ore would reduce if you do longer time the same ores. This would prevent autoers from growing very fast since they are spefically made to do 1 thing others hate to do!

  17. funny, how you didn't address the only real solution!

     

     

     

    all the solution you made above are just ways to make it more difficult. But once it is figured out how to by-pass them, they will be by passed.. and the autoers will return, so it would only make a slight delay of some days (maybe weeks) in which there are few autoers.

     

     

     

    However if anyone wants to create a solution for a problem, they should know WHY that problem is there! - And then address the root of the problem! What runescape, and everybody here currently try to do. Is comparable with using "analgesic" as a cure, you only "cover" the problem - but once it will return!

     

     

     

    Now what is the main problem? I think unlike others (JAGEX) that the main "root" of the problem with autoers, doesn't has anything to do with "people who want to buy stuff with real life money", well maybe a little bit, but the root is much more in the core of the game! (I think selling stuff offline shouldn't be a problem... but that's another story).

     

    It's the game itself which produces these "problems", I think. Let's follow this trail:

     

    why do autoers exist? -> to make money in real life! How do they make money? -> by selling runescape gold! How do they make gp? -> by utilizing certain skills!

     

    So we need to prevent autoers from being able to utilize any skill! Now rises the question: why do they utilize certain skills?

     

     

     

    and there are 2 "answers" on it, which are both connected in some way:

     

     

     

    first of all, a skill is "profitable" - meaning it earns gp! Now why are they so profitable? - it's because nobody wants to do it! either it's very dull work (wcing, fishing), or does give very bad experience (flax and various other picking, buying in shops).

     

     

     

    secondly a skill needs to be "macroable".. It needs to be able to be "caught" in a set of (simple) commands. Being an AI programmer myself I believe that in the end everything is "macroable" - I think a good "robot" should be able to do just like humans can (and maybe even "learn"). But that's for the future, and would require too much processor memory. Currently the runescape autoers are just simple bots which can only do a selected set of commands! - This is why autoers tend to choose for skills with as little commands as possible (fishing?)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Now how to solve the auto problem?

     

    The only way I think autoers can be solved is the remove 1 of the above reasons the autoers won't exists anymore...

     

     

     

    The first reason, can I think only be solved by stopping "trading" between acounts.. Or at least stop "gold" from existing.. If any skill was like agility, there would be no gain in buying certain stuff and autoers won't make GP which they can sell. However since money is the underlying motive for most people to play runescape I think this is a very bad idea..

     

     

     

    The other reason was the "easiness" of certain skills. Well why are those skills (fishing, woodcutting, mining, flax picking) able to be autoed? - It's because they're so easy, and repetitive! The human mind is good in finding new things, however it is beaten by computers when doing repetitive things! So the only way to make skills less macroable is to make it less repetitive!

     

    Now how is this possible? Good question, I myself haven't found the solution for this completely yet. Since being able to do everything once wouldn't be good for the replay value and would cause JAGEX customers. The only thing I can think which makes a skill non-repetitive is making it more, way more, player versus player! So that players have to compete with each other. If this is the case the other players will prevent repetitive things from happening.

     

    Examples where this is the case are abbys runecrafting (the pkers are the "opponents" of the crafters), and mining (where miners are each other opponent when fighting for an ore). Autoers can't keep up with this because they miss real intelligence and they will keep doing the same tactic, but human players will find ways to prevent autoers from getting the stuff then, and I think this will eliminate the autoer problem...

     

     

     

    So to conclude (sorry that it's a bit hard reading, but I'm not very good in writing english essays):

     

    I think the only way to prevent autoers from existing is to prevent the root from existing.. And that are the repetive tasks in runescape. And I think these tasks can be removed by creating more player versus player in the skills!

     

     

     

    NOt by creating stupid randoms, or some IP restriction system, they can be by-passed very easily.. And well for storing something on a PC: if you've ever went into multiplayer programming you should always follow this rule: the users pc = evil! they can (and may(!) ) do everything on their pc and they will hack any file on the pc. So far runescape has done a great job by processing everything on their servers though!

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