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  1. First off, hohto: =D> I was going to same something very similar, but you beat me to it. The idea of "re-releasing" rares has been suggested more times than you could possibly imagine. It typically comes come from a "If I cannot have it, then neither should you" mentality. Basically, they seem to get upset if every single item in the game is not easy for the average mid level player to obtain. Even before "rares" existed, a similar situation existed with items that could only be smithed. Blue typically created items for her friends, and not with the general public in mind. When she did release an item to the public in large, she usually put a fairly hefty price on them. I believe she stated that she wanted to keep them in limited supply. Simply put, if they where common, they would be less desirable as everybody would have them. Personally, I do not see an issue. They should be left alone. There should be items in the game that are extremely expensive, or otherwise limited (yes, even tradable ones!) For those of you arguing about wanting a money sink, here is what you do: 1) Put a shop in the deepest parts of the wilderness for just 1 week. Surround it by high level monsters as well, so there is an active threat coming from both player killers and monsters alike. 2) Place around 5 brand new, purely cosmetic (but tradable) items in said shop. On each item, place a 100 million gp price tag, and limit the amount of each item obtainable to just 10,000 each. With that... 5 trillion GP would be removed from the game in 1 week. This would substantially lower the price on everything in RuneScape. Instead of touching the existing rares, you effectively take advantage of peoples desires for limited items to benefit the game as a whole.
  2. Anyways, me and a friend where talking about the 80s earlier. After a bit, the subject of Luke and Laura was mentioned. For those of you unaware, Luke and Laura were a popular pairing on the TV soap opera General Hospital. This year marks the 30th anniversary of the famous TV wedding. Their wedding drew a record 30 million viewers and arguably saved the show from cancellation. The story of Luke and Laura is one involving the mob, rape, infidelity, adventure, curses, and even literally saving the world. Read more in the biography of character Luke Spencer: [hide] Luke arrived in Port Charles at the request of his sister, Bobbie, to help her split up Scotty Baldwin -- who Bobbie wanted for herself -- and Laura Webber. Luke took a shine to Laura's innocence, and she was drawn to Luke's unconventional lifestyle and love of adventure. Although Bobbie's plan didn't work, after marrying Scotty, Laura went to work for Luke at the Campus Disco. Luke was ordered by the mob to kill Mitch Williams, a corrupt politician who was campaigning for the Senate with the promise to crack down on organized crime. Feeling trapped and about to die no matter what he did, he confessed to Laura the night before the hit that he loved her and ached to make love to her. Almost delirious with his anguish, he kissed Laura and pulled at her clothes, but she ultimately resisted. With music pulsating in the background, Luke raped Laura on the dance floor of the Campus Disco. In 1980, Frank Smith pressured Luke into proposing to Frank's daughter Jennifer. On Luke and Jennifer's wedding day, Scotty read a letter from Laura to Luke in which Luke was named as her rapist. As Luke was about to exchange vows with Jennifer, Scotty boarded the yacht and proceeded to start a fight with Luke. Luke fell overboard, and Laura thought he had drowned. However, as she paced the docks, he reached out of the water and grabbed her leg. Luke and Laura then swiped Frank Smith's little black book, which, once decoded, would detail the criminal activities of Frank and his organization, and took off on the run. When Frank discovered they had taken the implicating book, he tried several tactics to flush them out into the open. Eventually, he sent a hit man after them. Luke and Laura had a wonderful time on the run from Frank Smith. Laura was unsure at first about breaking her marriage vows to Scotty, so they waited to make love. When the hit man caught up to them, he didn't reveal his identity, and they all worked together at a tavern. But then another hit man arrived in town to kill all of them. Eventually, Luke cracked the book and turned it over to the cops, and Frank Smith was jailed. Luke and Laura returned to a farm they had spent happy days on and consummated their relationship. When they returned to Port Charles, they were met by reporters. Startled by memories of the David Hamilton situation from her past, Laura blurted out to the reporters that she was Mrs. Laura Baldwin and had been unfaithful while away. Heartbroken, Luke sulked away from Laura despite Laura's willingness to divorce Scotty. While Luke and Laura were working for ELQ, the adventure of the Ice Princess began. Luke was in search of this stone for Alexandria Quartermaine, but when he became friends with Robert Scorpio, a secret WSB agent, Luke learned that the Cassadines were after it and Alexandria was conspiring with them. When Victor Cassadine obtained the stone, he jumped on his yacht with his brother Tony and set off for the Cassadine tropical island. But Robert and Luke stowed away on the yacht and discovered a third stowaway: Laura. When the yacht docked at the island, the trio hid while the Cassadine brothers met up with their older, evil genius brother Mikkos in his underground cavern. Luke and Laura enjoyed the tropical paradise while Robert utilized Victor's mistress, Tiffany Hill, who hated Mikkos' secret plan, to find the entrance to the cavern. Mikkos revealed his plan to use the formula in the Ice Princess to create a substance capable of altering the climates of the world. When the group of four do-gooders entered the cavern, Mikkos issued an ultimatum: surrender or he would use his freezing machine to freeze the world, starting with Port Charles. But Luke and Robert were able to turn the machine on him and freeze him along with Alexandria and Tony. Victor went to jail, and the world was safe from the Cassadines. When the trio returned to Port Charles, Laura divorced Scotty and, in 1981, Luke and Laura were married. After they exchanged vows, Helena Cassadine, Mikkos' widow, placed a curse on them. A year later, Laura disappeared on the docks of Port Charles, and Luke went crazy with worry. A New York City reporter, Jackie Templeton, arrived in town in search of her own Laura: her sister. Together, Luke and Jackie discovered that David Gray, a mysterious man who wanted to steal treasures from the Port Charles Museum, was behind both disappearances. When Luke discovered that David had killed Laura, he killed David in a fight. Despondent over Laura's death, Luke took off and went camping. While camping, he met English con artist Holly Sutton. She embroiled him in a scam involving oil, but her conscience got the best of her, and she revealed the truth. They became lovers temporarily until they had a fight and Luke took off by himself. He was caught in an avalanche and broke his back. When he discovered that Port Charles, including Holly and Robert, believed he had died, he decided not to return. Luke later changed his mind and returned to Port Charles, only to discover that Holly had married his best friend, Robert Scorpio. Luke severed his friendship with Robert. He was then elected mayor of Port Charles. One day, Laura appeared on the lawn of his mansion, and he could hardly believe his eyes. She had not died; Stavros Cassadine had kidnapped her, taken her to Greece, and held her captive. Stavros followed her to Port Charles and was killed when he fell down the stairs during a fight with Luke. Luke and Laura then resumed their life on the run from Frank Smith. They moved to Canada, and Luke fathered his first son, Lucky. In 1993, they returned to Port Charles with Lucky. Frank Smith was finally killed in Puerto Rico, and Luke was able to settle in Port Charles safely with his family. He opened a blues club with Sonny Corinthos. Luke and Laura then had a daughter, Lesley Lu. In 1996, Lesley Lu became very ill with aplastic anemia and was in need of a bone marrow donor. It was then that Luke learned that when Laura had been kidnapped, she had been told that Luke was dead and had married Stavros Cassadine. She bore him a son, Nikolas, who turned out to be a perfect match for the bone marrow that Lesley Lu needed. The Cassadine/Spencer war had started. Suspicious of Stefan, Luke and Laura faked Laura's and her mother's deaths. While Laura and Lesley were in hiding, Luke was able to figure out that Stefan planned to take over the world with a computer virus put in the world's financial systems. Lucky used his computer skills to help Luke secretly stop Stefan from doing this. The next battle in the war involved Luke trying to dig up some dirt on Alexis and Stefan to try to break up their partnership. He was able to get Alexis banished from the family and then immediately set to work trying to convince her to take down Stefan. In the process, Luke discovered that Alexis' real identity was Natasha Cassadine, Mikkos Cassadine's illegitimate daughter. He used this information to blackmail her into helping him. Luke enjoyed battling Stefan, but a bigger enemy was about to arrive. Enter Helena Cassadine, Mikkos' widow, who had cursed Laura and Luke several years earlier on their wedding day. When Helena arrived in town in late 1997, Luke increased his efforts in getting Alexis to side with him against the Cassadines. But it was Helena's efforts against Alexis that convinced Alexis to join forces with Luke. They plotted to kill Helena at Stefan and Katherine's engagement party at Wyndemere by luring her onto the parapet, where Luke had loosened the railing, and she would fall to her death. But things went terribly wrong when Katherine went out on the parapet first and fell to her death instead. Luke managed to convince a horrified Alexis not to confess to Stefan their part in Katherine's death. Instead, Stefan was arrested, and Luke tried to frame both Stefan and Helena for the murder. However, Luke's wife foiled the plan when she took the stand in Stefan's defense and stated that she had been on the parapet when Katherine fell; she corroborated Stefan's statement that he had not pushed Katherine, so he was found not guilty. That revelation was devastating enough to Luke, but then Laura confirmed his worst fear -- she told him that she and Stefan had engaged in an affair while she was missing, and Luke concluded that Nikolas was actually Stefan's son. Laura also realized that Luke was responsible for the loose railing that had led to Katherine's death and couldn't forgive him. Luke decided to take his shock and anger and leave Port Charles for a while in order to pull himself together. When Luke returned a few months later, Katherine was back from the dead, and Laura was involved with Stefan. So Luke went to work patching up his relationship with his son, Lucky. Before Luke had left, Nikolas had blurted out to Lucky that Luke had raped Laura years before. Lucky had confronted Luke, and Luke had told Lucky what had happened on that horrible night in the disco. Disgusted, Lucky shut his dad out of his life. Luke and Lucky were slowly repairing their relationship when Lucky was presumed dead in a fire that broke out in Jason's bike shop. Luke and Laura were devastated, but unable to turn to each other for comfort. Hurting, Luke had a one-night stand with Tammy Carson in his bar. Then he sought comfort with Felicia Jones, who tried to distract him by getting him to help her research Lila Quartermaine's memoirs. Together, they unearthed a deep, dark Quartermaine secret: Lila had killed her fiancé, Elliot Thompson, in self-defense years earlier, and Edward had covered it up. Luke and Felicia agreed to keep their discovery a secret. Herr Kreig approached Luke with an offer to smuggle diamonds. When Luke wanted to call the shots, Herr got upset, and Luke discovered Herr's true identity: Cesar Faison. Faison had killed Robert Scorpio and Robert's wife, Anna Devane. Afraid that Faison was after Felicia, Luke agreed to smuggle the diamonds. When Felicia went with Luke to Mexico to get the diamonds, Faison confronted the duo and demanded the diamonds in exchange for Felicia's life. Luke agreed in order to protect Felicia, who he was developing feelings for. Felicia and Luke headed back to Port Charles, but it wasn't long before Faison figured out that Luke had given him fake diamonds. Faison kidnapped Felicia and demanded the real diamonds. Roy DiLucca, an old friend of Luke's who was back from the dead, helped Luke track Faison to his lair to rescue Felicia. But Felicia and Luke got trapped. Uncertain of how much longer they would live, they nearly made love, not realizing that Faison was taping them. Felicia and Luke managed to get Faison into the room so Luke could knock him out, although Felicia got shot in the process. Then Mac showed up, arrested Faison, and rescued the adventurers. Helena helped Faison break out of jail after he was charged with kidnapping and killing Katherine; his boat blew up with him on it. Before he died, he was able to tell Luke something very important: Lucky was alive. Shaken, Luke took off to Europe and began to investigate Faison's statement. Europe didn't lead anywhere, so in February of 2000, Luke returned to Port Charles and confided in Felicia. She agreed to help him search for Lucky, and they went all over the world in their search. It wasn't until they were in Spring Lake, near Port Charles, that they caught a glimpse of Lucky. They tried to get to him, but Stefan whisked him away, proving to Luke that Helena and Stefan were both responsible for Lucky's disappearance. Since Luke had proof that Lucky was alive, he told Laura, who was overcome with joy, which was mixed with horror at Stefan's involvement. In the spring of 2000, she confronted Stefan, who denied it, but Laura continued to believe Luke. Luke and Laura teamed up and set off on a long journey to find Lucky and return him home. They followed Helena's clues and found themselves on a trip down memory lane as they traveled from their old boat, the Haunted Star, to Ice Princess Island, where Felicia caught up with them and begged to help them, and then on to Texas, Lucky's birth place. They searched the cabin they had lived in there, but didn't find anything. Laura tried to get Felicia to back off and go home, but Luke told her she could stay. Felicia found a rock outside nearby that Lucky had carved his name in, but then fell over the side of a cliff. Laura was forced to rescue her, and they continued the search. They finally located Lucky at the Triple L Diner in British Columbia. When Luke spotted Lucky, Lucky slugged him and took off. Confused, Laura went back to Port Charles to wait in case Lucky returned, while Luke continued to search for Lucky. Lucky finally returned to Port Charles, but he was definitely not the same as before. He was still very angry about Luke raping Laura. Luke vowed to undo whatever Helena had done to him. In the meantime, Stefan had mysteriously disappeared and was presumed dead. Luke was the only suspect, but his alibi was airtight, since he had been with Felicia the night Stefan disappeared. Against Luke's wishes, Felicia testified that she had been with Luke the night of Stefan's disappearance. Luke was free but his relationship with Laura was strained even further. Luke eventually figured out that Helena had performed some kind of brainwashing on Lucky. Luke threatened to kill Helena and even kidnapped Nikolas in desperation to get Helena to talk. When Luke figured out that the Ice Princess somehow figured into Lucky's programming, he decided to go after it. He asked Felicia to go with him, but she declined. Luke wasn't able to get his hands on the Ice Princess and returned to town empty-handed. Felicia and Luke began to explore a possible romantic relationship. However, when Luke came across some disks belonging to Helena, he became so distracted that Felicia gave up on trying to spill her feelings to him. When she finally did tell him that she loved him, he couldn't return her feelings, and they broke up. Luke then enlisted Dr. Kevin's help in deprogramming Lucky, but the programming was too deep for him to reach. In a heart-breaking scene, Luke and Laura finalized their divorce and looked back on the good times they'd had together. Luke and Roy began sniffing around the sublevels of General Hospital's basement, trying to find Helena's lair. Luke also secretly teamed up with Nikolas to get information on Helena's plans and on how to reverse Lucky's programming. Laura wasn't sure of Luke's plan and worried about Nikolas' safety, but ultimately went along with it. It wasn't long before Luke got a first-hand look at Helena's plans in action. When Luke finally found his way into Helena's underground lab, she showed up and taunted him. She showed him Stavros, who shocked Luke by waking up and describing the night of his "death," which had only been witnessed by Luke and Laura. When Lucky showed up, Luke urged him to run. But Helena tapped into Lucky's programming to force Lucky to inject Luke with a biotoxin that would render him ineffective in trying to stop her plans. Luke was dumped in an alley, where the virus immediately began to have an effect on him. He didn't know what year it was and kept mixing up his memories of the past with current events. He found his way back to his place, where he found Lucky. Due to his programming, Lucky couldn't remember what had happened to Luke. Helena showed up after Lucky was gone to see the effects of her handiwork. In a brief moment of clarity, Luke nearly strangled her, until Stavros burst in. Bobbie found Luke and got Tony to examine him, but Luke ran away before they could get him treatment. Roy and Melissa found him in the Cassadine crypt and stashed him in a cabin. While Laura tried to care for him there, she was nearly able to make some sense out of his confused ramblings. Tony delivered the antidote he'd used on Lucas. Unfortunately, it didn't work, and Luke escaped from the cabin. Laura found him and got him to the hospital for proper treatment. He began to recover, although he was still weak. Luke wanted to personally help take down Helena, so he escaped from the hospital and went to Helena's lab. He found Laura and Stavros in a room and physically fought with Stavros. But he was still weak from the biotoxin and no match for Stavros. However, later on, Luke was able to push Stavros into a bottomless pit. Helena was arrested, and the Cassadines were finally defeated. Luke then set his sights on winning back Laura. He invented a fake mission and enticed her to go along. The old sparks between them ignited, and Luke proposed to Laura. She took a little time in answering, but she finally agreed. Howver, life got in the way of their plans for a wedding. Jennifer Smith had returned and swiped Luke, intent on marrying him. Laura tracked him down and, together with Roy and Felicia, rescued him. Helena escaped a few months after her arrest, and Luke was upset to learn that Nikolas had given her money in order to protect Gia instead of his family. Luke managed to find Helena and personally escorted her to prison. Luke celebrated Helena's imprisonment and counted Nikolas as his enemy still. When he tried to get Lucky to spy on Nikolas, Lucky refused. Then Carly was presumed dead in a car accident, and Luke comforted his disbelieving sister. When Carly turned up alive, Luke investigated who was behind the body double and DNA match to make it seem Carly was dead. Soon Luke discovered that Helena had put an imposter in her own place in prison. He tracked her to a convent, where he ran into Laura, who'd tracked her missing engagement ring to the same place. They found Helena there and had her shipped to a convent in the Arctic Circle. Finally the lovebirds could plan their wedding. Laura realized that she was missing some memories of her past involving the garage attic in her parents' old house. Luke promised to help her solve the mystery. Together they discovered that Rick was involved. Laura continued to have flashbacks and they discovered that Rick had been having an affair with a woman named Theresa Carter. Luke tracked down the woman, who was really hired by Rick,l and he went with Laura to see her. Laura was satisfied by the story Theresa told them, but Luke wasn't. He found the camera Theresa had talked about in her story and had Lucky develop the film. One of the pictures showed a young Scott Baldwin covered in blood. When Laura had a major flashback the night of their rehearsal dinner, she went to the attic, where she confronted Rick. Luke also followed them to the attic and whisked Laura away from the scene, leaving Rick dead on the floor. Luke hid with Laura in a barn. He had to tie Laura up because she was afraid of him and kept trying to run from him. Luke continually had to remind Laura that he was protecting her and that Rick had died by her hand in self-defense. Laura nearly returned to her senses, but ended up running off before they returned to Port Charles. She found her way back to the attic, where she had flashbacks of killing Theresa and of killing Rick. Luke found her there, dressed in her old, tattered wedding dress. Realizing Laura was suffering a mental breakdown, Luke went along with her wedding hallucinations and shared tender vows with her. Then Scott and Mac showed up, arrested him for Rick's murder, and took Laura for psychiatric evaluation. Wanting to protect Laura, Luke claimed to have killed Rick. He bargained with Scott for one last visit with Laura. But Laura didn't recognize him as anything more than a bad man who had hurt her. As an orderly wheeled her away to transport her to London for treatment, all Luke could say was, "Goodbye, my angel, goodbye." With Nikolas' help, Luke escaped from custody during transport to another prison. He tried to visit Laura in London, but his visit seemed to worsen her condition. Luke joined a chain gang, despondent over losing Laura. Lucky and Elizabeth tracked him down and took him home. Wanting to punish himself somehow, Luke made every effort to get himself arrested, even setting the police station on fire. He would have died in the fire if Lucky hadn't rescued him. Alexis used Laura's taped confession to blackmail Scott into keeping Luke out of jail. Scott wanted Luke declared mentally unstable, so Alexis found him a shrink. Luke even opened up a little about Laura to his new therapist. Soon after, Luke spotted a mysterious blonde woman in the park and pushed her out of the way of an oncoming car. Although he repeatedly ran into her after their first encounter, no one else ever saw her and doubted her existence. She called herself Summer and told Luke that she was a high-priced call girl. Luke hired her to help him re-enact special moments between the Spencers. But no matter what they did, Summer couldn't replace Laura, although Luke was somewhat captivated by her. They developed a unique friendship, and he even convinced her stop being a call girl. Summer finally became real to the rest of the world when a desperate Luke sat on the ledge of General Hospital, and she showed up in front of his therapist. Although Luke wasn't actually dating Summer, he was still shocked to find out that Summer had also been dating his son, Lucky. He stopped seeing her, and she briefly returned to her call girl profession. Eventually, the truth was revealed that Nikolas had hired Summer to keep Luke's attention away from trying to find Laura. Nikolas had promised to give Summer information on the whereabouts of her brother. Summer hadn't planned on meeting and falling for Lucky in the process. Luke agreed to forgive her but told her never to scam him again, or he would kill her. Then Luke, Summer, and Lucky went in search of Summer's brother. The adventure quickly turned into a treasure hunt for some lost Cassadine coins. In the end, Luke beat them all to the treasure and informed them that the coins had been replaced by fakes. Luke and Lucky's relationship began showing signs of strain, and the situation with Summer hadn't helped. Luke blamed Lucky for giving total control over Laura's medical treatment to Nikolas, a Cassadine. Summer got caught in the middle of a physical altercation between Luke and Lucky when Luke discovered that Lucky and Nik had hidden Laura again. She ended up knocking Luke out to get him to let go of Lucky. Later, a drunk and doped-up Luke returned to Lucky's place and mistook Summer for Laura. Luke talked to "Laura" lovingly, and Summer went along with it, feeling sorry for him. He pulled a knife and promised to protect "Laura," but when Lucky arrived, Luke left. Later, Summer helped Lucky trick Luke into being committed to a mental hospital. When Summer was pushed off a cliff at Nikolas and Emily's engagement party, everyone suspected Luke at first. But Lucky quickly realized that Luke wasn't responsible. Luke left town for a while anyway. When he returned, he discovered that Lucky had become a cop, and Stefan still wasn't behind bars for killing Summer. So Luke kidnapped him and held a televised mock trial of Stefan, at the end of which he declared Stefan guilty. Stefan and Luke had their final showdown on the cliff where Summer had fallen. Stefan allowed himself to be impaled by Luke's knife and then fell to his death. Lucky was forced to arrest Luke, who didn't run away at first and seemed almost proud of his deed. But Luke was not willing to do time for Stefan's murder and fled from police custody. He hid out in Jax's lake house, where Skye happened to be staying. He convinced her to help him attend Stefan's funeral in secret and then to help him scam the Quartermaines out of money so that he could go on the run in style. But his original plan got replaced when he discovered the cards from the Dead Man's Hand that AJ had hidden away. Luke managed to get his hands on all five cards and auctioned them off to the highest bidder at the Halloween costume party. Jax won the bid and had just wired Luke the money when the room was filled with gas. Everyone passed out, and a mystery person stole the cards. Luke tried to get the cards back, but Jax ended up with them and raced off to get them back to his father before his father died. Luke was not happy to find out that Nikolas had discovered a suicide note left by Stefan, which meant that Luke would not be tried for murder. Uncertain what to do with his newfound freedom, Luke didn't have to wait long. The Haunted Star had returned to Port Charles Harbor. Sam had won a boat in a poker game, and the boat turned out to be the Haunted Star. Suddenly, several people, including Luke, were interested in opening a casino in town. Luke wanted to use the Haunted Star for the location, and Sam had the title to the boat. Luke had a gambling license, so he and Same teamed up. Luke also wanted the Dead Man's Hand as a centerpiece for the casino. Sam wormed her way back into Jax's life and managed to get the cards back from him. However, her victory felt hollow, and she gave the cards to a homeless man: Luke. Luke's other partner, Skye, began making plans to turn the dumpy Haunted Star into a fabulous casino. Luke even found a stash of cash to bankroll his new business. The cash turned out to belong to Faith Rosco. When she demanded the return of her cash, Luke basically told her "finders-keepers." Faith kidnapped Skye as a bargaining chip, and Luke had to rescue Skye when Faith dumped her overboard, tied to a chair. Faith decided she would play Luke in a game of poker. If she won, he would launder money for her, but if he won then she would leave him alone. For reasons of his own, Luke let Faith win. Luke opened the Haunted Star but continued his quest to take down Helena Cassadine. Luke learned Tracy and Helena had worked together to break apart Nikolas and Emily. Helena provided Tracy with millions of dollars to save ELQ, the Quartermaine family business. Luke wanted both the money and to be rid of Helena. Nikolas had been sent to prison for murdering Helena, but Luke believed she was still alive, as her body had not been found. Luke was already working with Skye Quartermaine at the Haunted Star, but he recruited another member of the Quartermaine family to keep tabs on Tracy. Luke convinced Tracy's son Dillon to spy on his mother. Emily Quartermaine, Nikolas' fiancée, also had a plan to draw Helena out of hiding. Emily had Connor Bishop, a Nikolas look-alike, pretend to be Nikolas. Helena appeared long enough to shoot at Emily. Emily was fine, but Luke's son, Lucky, was not. Lucky had jumped in front of Emily and taken the bullet. Luke was unaware at first that Lucky had been shot. He was out of town, searching for Helena. When Luke arrived back in Port Charles, Lucky was on life support. Luke decided to turn off Lucky's life support, but friends and family filed a court order to stop Luke. Luke believed he was settling Lucky free. Luke won the legal battle and prepared to say goodbye to Lucky. Luke sang Lucky a song he used to sing to Lucky as a young child, and then he unplugged the machine. As Luke said his final goodbye, Lucky began to breathe on his own. Lucky and Luke did not have a joyful reunion. Lucky was furious that his father was ready to give up on him. In one of his arguments, he brought up Luke's rape of Laura. Skye overheard, and changed her mind about becoming involved with Luke. Skye claimed she was finished with Luke, but she still begged Jason and Sonny to spare Luke's life. Faith Roscoe had kidnapped Sonny's children. Faith claimed to have murdered Sonny's son Michael, who was really still alive. Sonny was furious that Luke had been business partners with Faith. Luke's friendship with Sonny was enough to save him, but Sonny encouraged Luke to head out of town for a while. Luke spent his time out of town, looking for Helena. He did chase her back to Port Charles. Helena shot Luke at close range on the Haunted Star. Tracy witnessed the shooting and attacked Helena. Skye walked in and saw Luke covered in blood, lying on the floor. She confessed that she cared about him. Then Luke sat up and teased her about caring for him. He was wearing a bulletproof vest, but insisted he be admitted to the hospital. Skye and Tracy went along with his plan to make everyone believe he was seriously injured. It was a plan to draw out Helena. When Helena showed up at the hospital to kill Luke in his weakened state, she was captured. The Cassadine money Luke was after was in the hands of Tracy Quatermaine, and she was not willing to share with Luke. Luke hatched a plan to trick Tracy into marrying him. He arranged for Tracy to believe her son Dillon and his girlfriend Georgie Jones had run off to Las Vegas to get married. Tracy rushed to Las Vegas to stop the wedding, but she believed she'd gotten there too late. Then Tracy became extremely intoxicated and married Luke in her drunken state. When she woke up, she learned Dillon and Georgie had not gotten married. When Luke and Tracy returned to Port Charles, the Quartermaine family quickly advised Tracy to annul the marriage. Luke claimed the marriage had been consummated, but he would divorce Tracy for a large sum of money. Skye made Luke jealous by flirting with Lorenzo Alcazar. Edward suggested Tracy should catch Luke having an affair with Skye. Luke stated he was over Skye and only had feelings for "Spanky Buns," his nickname for Tracy. Privately, Skye told Luke she would not be intimate with him until he divorced Tracy. Tracy and Luke remained married and continued their verbal sparring. Tracy refused to give Luke any money, and Luke refused to accept a divorce. Luke decided to enter a partnership with his niece Carly. Carly was recovering from a nervous breakdown when Luke approached her. Carly was divorcing Lorenzo Alcazar. Luke wanted Carly to get Lorenzo's ELQ shares in the divorce settlement. Carly did get the shares, but kept them for herself. Luke came into some money when he overheard Jasper Jacks admit he'd switched paternity results to read that he was the father of Courtney Matthew's baby. He blackmailed Jax by promising not to tell anyone Nikolas Cassadine was the baby's father. Luke's daughter, Lulu, was causing some trouble of her own, stealing from the Quartermaines and speeding around in Edward's car. Lucky and Leslie, Laura's mother, both talked to Luke. They told him he needed to be a parent to Lulu. Tracy and Luke agreed they had horrible parenting skills in common. Lulu and Luke spent a little time together at Christmas when they both visited Laura in Shadybrook at the same time. They had just started to reconnect as father and daughter when Luke took off again. He planned to force Tracy to divorce him by making Tracy believe he was out to kill her. Tracy found out what Luke had planned and faked ingesting rat poison Luke had planted. Tracy faked her death, which caused Luke to go into hiding. Lulu decided to clear her father's name and set out to find him. Luke was posing as a doctor in a remote area in Africa. Unbeknownst to him, he had picked up a rare and highly contagious form of encephalitis. Shortly after Luke left the village, Robert Scorpio burned the village down to prevent the deadly virus from spreading. Robert Scorpio set off to stop Luke from returning to Port Charles, but it was too late. By the time Robert arrived, Luke had already passed the virus around the hospital. Lulu, Sonny, Nikolas, Sam McCall, and Skye were all infected, as was Luke himself. Strangely, Luke had the most direct exposure to the virus but was able to recover quickly. The hospital staff used Luke to create an antidote. Luke agreed to the risky procedure as long as Lulu was the first to receive treatment. More residents of Port Charles became ill. Carly and Jason found an antidote to the virus, but it arrived too late for Dr. Tony Jones, Courtney Matthews, and Sam McCall's brother, Danny. They all succumbed to the virus. Robert Scorpio had plans to extradite Luke to stand trial in the Maarkham Islands. To stall Robert, Luke and Tracy planned to renew their vows. Luke stood Tracy up and instead took off with former lover, Holly Sutton. Luke helped Holly steal some precious jewels. Robert Scorpio and Anna Devane showed up in the Maarkham Islands to catch Luke and Holly. Holly escaped, and Luke returned the stolen jewels. While Luke was in the Maarkham Islands, his children were not doing well. Lucky was battling a severe addiction to prescription painkillers and having an affair with Maxie Jones. Lucky got hooked on the painkillers after he injured his back in a train crash the night he married Elizabeth Webber. Lulu set up Dillon Quartermaine to believe his wife, Georgie, had cheated on him. Lulu used Dillon's pain and anger to seduce him. She got pregnant and wanted to have an abortion. Dillon wanted to keep the baby. The Quartermaines threatened to file a court order to prevent her from terminating the pregnancy. Luke returned home to support Lulu. He assured her he would stand by whatever decision she made. Lulu decided to terminate the pregnancy. Luke felt he and his children needed Laura. Luke authorized treating Laura with an experimental drug. Luke believed the benefit of having Laura return, even for a short time, outweighed any other risks. The drug worked, and Laura emerged from her catatonic state. She believed it was still her wedding day. Laura remembered everything and was reunited with her family. Luke and Laura set a date to remarry. Luke kept his marriage to Tracy a secret. He knew Laura would not be with them for long. After the wedding, Luke told Laura the effects of the drug were temporary. She spent time with each of her children, and the family celebrated Christmas early so she could enjoy her favorite holiday. When Laura returned to her comatose state, Luke took off again. When Luke returned, Lulu was trapped inside the MetroCourt hotel. Mr. Craig, also known as Jerry Jacks, had trapped numerous hostages inside the building. Luke was desperate to rescue Lulu. Mr. Craig wanted a code that would open a briefcase. Luke tried to trade phony numbers for Lulu's life to be spared, but his attempt at negotiating did not work. The hostages remained inside. Lulu survived, but Tracy's brother, Alan, died. Luke and Tracy forged Alan's will. They made Tracy the beneficiary of Alan's estate instead of his wife or daughter. Alan's ghost haunted Tracy. Luke's enemy, Scott Baldwin, returned to town. Scott was upset Luke had authorized the experimental treatment for Laura. Scott planned to take Luke to court to fight for guardianship of Laura. In court, Scott was going to bring up Luke's rape of Laura. Luke did not want Lulu to find out about the rape. Luke moved Laura to another facility so she was hidden from Scott. Scott filed kidnapping charges against Luke. Luke stayed out of town. Scott threw Tracy in jail because she had helped Luke. Tracy hired a private investigator to gain leverage over Scott. Tracy learned Scott had a son in Port Charles, Logan Hayes. Logan was dating Lulu. A paternity test confirmed that Logan was Scott's son. Logan and Lulu had become serious, but Logan cheated on Lulu with Maxie Jones. Logan wanted Lulu back, but Lulu had started to move on with Johnny Zacchara. Scott attempted to make up for lost time with his son. Scott and Logan struck a deal with Lulu. Lulu gave Logan another chance when Scott dropped the charges against Luke. Luke was not happy Lulu had given Scott's son a second chance. Luke and Tracy attended the Black and White Ball held at Wyndemere. The night turned deadly when the Text Message Killer and Anthony Zacchara arrived. The guests at the ball hid for safety. Luke was searching for Lulu. She was Anthony's target. Anthony found Luke and laughed while he watched Luke have a heart attack. Emily gave Luke medical attention at Wydermere, but he suffered a second heart attack before reaching the hospital. Luke needed to have surgery and was ordered to make changes to his lifestyle. He claimed he would rather die than give up his vices. Monica performed quadruple bypass surgery, but her focus was not clear. Her daughter Emily had recently been murdered. Monica froze during the surgery when she saw a vision of Emily. Luke had his own vision on the operating table. He had a vision of his version of hell. He was a cop and family man living an adventure-free life. Luke survived the surgery. Luke's attention turned back to his family when Lulu was in Shadybrook. She killed Logan in self-defense, but Scott wanted her to pay for her crime. Lulu had visions of Logan. She visited her mother often. After one of Lulu's visits, Laura woke up. Laura defended her daughter to Scott. He enjoyed telling Laura that Luke was married to Tracy. Laura learned her recent marriage to Luke was not valid. Scott and Laura made a deal. Laura left town with Scott, and Scott dropped the charges against Lulu. Luke and Tracy found out about the deal and set out to find Laura. When they found her, Luke and Laura had a brief reunion. Luke admitted he loved Tracy. Laura decided to move to France to continue her treatment. Tracy wanted to end her marriage to Luke. She believed she ranked second compared to his love for Laura. Luke was committed to proving his love for Tracy. He faked a heart attack, but Tracy knew better than to believe him. Then Tracy was exposed to a dangerous bio-toxin released at General Hospital. Luke was truly concerned about Tracy, and she began to trust Luke's love. At the same time, Luke hired a young man named Ethan Lovett to work at the Haunted Star. Ethan and Luke bonded quickly, and had many shared physical characteristics and mannerisms. Ethan was Luke's son with Holly Sutton. Luke had never known Holly was pregnant. Tracy's insecurities resurfaced when Holly briefly returned to Port Charles. Soon after Holly left town, Luke disappeared. Everyone assumed Luke had gone after Holly, but Helena had actually kidnapped him. Ethan, Nikolas, and Lulu received a message that Luke was in trouble. They rescued him in Greece. Helena then kidnapped Tracy, and Luke was taken hostage, as well, when he tried to rescue her. Helena held Luke and Tracy in a dungeon. Tracy became ill. Luke confessed their marriage was not legal, but said he wanted to get married as soon as they escaped. When Tracy and Luke returned home, Tracy kicked Luke out. Luke faked a serious heart attack with help from Maya Ward and Ethan. He asked Tracy to marry him, and she agreed. Luke, Tracy, Maya, and Ethan flew to Las Vegas for Tracy and Luke's wedding. Luke and Tracy had many drinks. Ethan and Maya tried to help Luke and Tracy through the ceremony, but Ethan and Maya accidentally ended up married instead. Luke asked Tracy to marry him again, and Tracy agreed. She had a few requirements Luke had to meet. He had to sign a prenuptial agreement, and he had to agree to marry at Christmas, Laura's favorite holiday. Luke met both of Tracy's terms, and they were legally married. Lucky was about to be married, as well. He was going to marry Siobhan McKenna so she could remain in the country. Luke was in a hurry to get to the courthouse to witness the wedding. On his way there, he hit and killed Lucky's adoptive son Jake. Luke drove away, unaware he had hit Jake. His family began to wonder if alcohol had been a factor in the accident. [/hide] Source: http://www.soapcentral.com/gh/whoswho/luke.php Other relevant links: http://soaps.sheknows.com/generalhospital/cast/310/Luke_Spencer/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_and_Laura http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Spencer As the biography above mentions, Luke had raped Laura in a controversial plot back in 1979. When the pairing become more popular, it was later downplayed into a seduction and she had forgiven him. They where married on November 17th, 1981 in what was probably the highest rated TV wedding of all time. It was reported that Princess Diana sent champagne. However I did start wondering, could this same plot be done successfully today? From my understanding, it was controversial even back then. As such, I am skeptical of how well it would go over in modern times. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TntHtWvBqKc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmlY51GK4SY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzU2UYtGKMA Though this post isn't limited to discussing the circumstances that brought them together. As a 80s fan, this post is for discussion of all things Luke and Laura.
  3. Dice, among other items, where added to the game for the purposes of emergent game play. Gambling is one example of such play that has come out of them. I don't see the harm in it personally. Sure there is potential for scammers, but there is also legitimate game play there. Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water. Also, I want to point out that "trust trades" are *NOT* necessarily scamming. Long before the assist system came out, people used to perform such trades frequently. Personally, I have helped many players (friends and strangers alike) with making armor, mixing potions, and various things and not once did I scam a soul. So personally I do not like this thought that "trust trade" = scamming. In fact, the assist system still has a limit of earning 30k or so experience per day.
  4. Since it has been nearly a year since I bumped this post, I thought it would be worthwhile to see how people regard this now. Recently as most of you know, free trade and the wilderness have been re-introduced into the game. So things have gone full circle since the creation of this topic, as it was originally created just shortly before they where removed. Admittedly I am a bit out of the loop, as I have not been a paid member in 2 years and not followed all of the recent updates. As such, I was curious if many of you think the options for playing a villain type role in RuneScape have improved? Or are things pretty much the same?
  5. Its just something that I found to be unique and interesting. Given that many people here are gamers (its a forum about a game, after all), many here I figure would have an appreciation for such a concept. After all, I am fairly sure most of us have played Mario at some point. Though its a concept that I could see working with other games as well. Personally, I would think Zelda would be a interesting theme for a room. I would say it depends on your definition of "discuss" really. To me, I would say that a topic should be interesting enough that the people who read it would consider it either fun, informative, or debatable. I consider this particular topic to be the fun type. Replies don't have to always be strictly on topic either, especially in the less serious posts. As far as discussion value, that varies. Many news posts have little to no discussion value, as often its little more than replies about how shocked people are about what happened. That being said, they probably have a place as people do often like reading them. Generally a topic does not need to be extremely serious in nature. Otherwise, what you usually end up with is a board full of rehashed topics about politics and religion by posters who generally lack the maturity to discuss said topics to begin with. In other words, pretty much how the Off-Topic board is at the present.
  6. The pictures speak for themselves: Source: http://www.destructoid.com/super-mario-bros-the-bathroom-201321.phtml Now if only the rest of the rooms where done in a different level.
  7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KXmcNfEFMI I'm well aware that its not all that black and white, nor was I trying to imply that it was. I was speaking in more general terms on the styles of posts. I made some minor edits to my last reply, in order to make my intentions more clear about this post. Basically, I thought it would serve to create discussion and perhaps encourage more users to post more of the fun topics alongside the serious ones.
  8. I would agree that the off-topic board has taken more a change in tone, especially in more recent years. While there has always been some serious topics, the board is filled with them at this point. In fact, the majority are just constant rehashes of previous topics. For example, posts related to Marijuana legalization have been beaten to death, and even the majority of people replying to the last post on the subject acknowledges this. Typically, I usually hear people saying that they do indeed prefer the fun topics. However, the serious ones continues to dominate. That is part of the reason for this post, to bring the issue up and to discuss it. If we get enough people talking, then perhaps it will change the mood of this board a bit by encouraging users to post more fun topics. Perhaps its due to a shortage of fun posters (such as Bubsa) that are still active these days.
  9. Generally, I find that the off-topic forum has two different kinds of posts: The fun posts, and more lighter topics (for example, food type posts) Then the serious posts (news topics, political debates, etc...) Thought it would be an interesting question, which type do you generally prefer to read? Personally, I tend to like the fun posts (though they seem in short supply these days). They generally are interesting to read, you don't have to take all of them seriously. The more serious posts I find brings out the worst side in many posters.
  10. Yes_Its_Ross asked "Wasn't this thread a sticky? " in October 2008, so it hasn't been a sticky for atleast that long: http://forum.tip.it/topic/31072-missing-persons-list/page__st__800 But yeah, it was a fairly unique and useful feature. If not its own topic, at the very least a link could be placed in another topic. Or it could be combined with the Introductions & Farewells topic. Though I would still support, and prefer it be returned to a sticky in its own right. Even if its not the most active topic, by reading thru it you can clearly see that several users had success using it. It helped them find friends whom, without the topic, they might have otherwise not been able to relocate.
  11. I don't believe thats correct. If I recall correctly, I believe it was unstuck because they where trying to reduce the number of stickys in general at the time. Some got removed, others combined.
  12. Offtopic doesn't exactly get spammed with people posting pictures of their computers wallpaper either, but the fact that its a sticky if anything encourages people to post it. By being in eyesight, it becomes more used. But it did BEFORE there was a sticky, now that traffic goes to the sticky. There's no evidence of any traffic at all really in the missing persons vein; certainly not enough to warrant a sticky In all my time on tip.it (and I been thru the various boards since 2001), I cannot ever recall there being a ton of spam regarding wallpapers even before a topic was stickied. Sure, there may have been an odd post every now and again, but I would say they where rare. Significantly less common than OT posters starting topics about marijuana now in fact. However... I still say the lack of activity regarding missing users is a mix of knowing it would be locked/removed, and the topics lack of eyesight. If anything i'll compare it to the real life pictures thread. Sure, there might be a random post ever now and again asking users to post pictures... but it would hardly be used in the manner it is if it wasn't stuck to the top of the board. The reason I am encouraging this one to be a sticky is I feel thats where it would receive the most traffic, and hence, the most usefulness. This type of topic, unlike a generic discussion, only works if its always in eyesight (as I said before).
  13. Offtopic doesn't exactly get spammed with people posting pictures of their computers wallpaper either, but the fact that its a sticky if anything encourages people to post it. By being in eyesight, it becomes more used.
  14. Thats because the post is no longer stickied. It DID get a decent amount of traffic when it was one. Which is my point. That by removing it as a sticky, it killed any effectiveness of the post. Given that many do not even know it exists, and those who do will see no real benefit from it as its not in sight of the majority of users. It goes from november 2010 to may 2010 then jumps to 2009; hardly active. Also my point is: people who WANT that service and do not know about it make mis-placed posts like all the welcomes and farewells that get moved. We don't get any looking for people threads to be moved so this supposed traffic it'd get has no proof to suggest it is there and even the thread itself post dates shows how dead it was. Most people know that if they posted a topic hunting for old friends, it would most likely be locked. Infact, they would probably be pointed to that very post. Its hardly fair to compare the active postcount of it since being de-stickied and say it sees no real traffic. That post hasn't been a stick for about ~2 years if I recall correctly. Hardly any posts that fall of page 1 see no real traffic, hence the idea of stickys to begin with. Besides, even if posts are spaced out, it does not mean people aren't VIEWING it. The more viewers, the more likely you are to find someone who knows the individual in question. Hence why I said at the beginning this is the sort of post that needs to be a sticky, as its only effective if its in eyesight of the majority of users.
  15. Thats because the post is no longer stickied. It DID get a decent amount of traffic when it was one. Which is my point. That by removing it as a sticky, it killed any effectiveness of the post. Given that many do not even know it exists, and those who do will see no real benefit from it as its not in sight of the majority of users.
  16. http://forum.tip.it/topic/31072-missing-persons-list/ There have been several cases where the post has, indeed, helped users find lost friends. However if nobody knows you are searching for somebody, they clearly cannot help you locate them. Nor is anybody going to go thru the effort to actually search for the post on a regular basis. As you can see even in the first post, it benefitted people. One example was when user Fleetcom posted hunting user "RustStorm". KiddJasper replied "Rust and I have been friends for almost 4 yrs now. He's quit RS, but I talk to him online. I'll ask him about you.". That is one of the many examples where, in my opinion, the post was helpful to somebody. I have nothing against the hidden updates post, I just figured most of the stuff there (aside from very minor details) is already public knowledge at this point. Though it does not matter to me if it is a sticky or not, I just figured it would be less useful now than it was in the past.
  17. Given that both RuneScape and Tip.it have allowed users to change display names for a good while now, finding old friends is probably more difficult than ever. The "Missing Persons List" post was far more useful when it was easily to find. Since being un-stickied, many frankly do not even know it exists or use it. This is the type of post that needs to be easily accessible, in order to be useful. I feel that it would be a far more useful sticky than the "hidden updates" post, as Jagex tends to tell us about most of the smaller updates anyways now.
  18. I can't speak for ForsakenMage, but I didn't read her reply as particularly angry. For that matter, my reply wasn't an angry one either. While I did not take your post very seriously, I figured on this kind of post many would. The point I believe we where both attempting to make is that you simply cannot really base a description of original players off that list alone. That list (despite its flaws, which it obviously has) only covers the first 2000 accounts. RuneScape launched on January 4th, 2001. According to the first newsletter, there was already over 28,000 accounts on January 21st, 2001. So in the 17 days, this would average out to about 1,647 accounts created per day. In other words, the first 2000 accounts would have been created around ~30 hours hours after launch. That is a bit strict of a definition by anybodys standards really.
  19. That's not really fair since it doesn't contain ALL of the ones who started in 2001. So I won't cabbage off thanks. ;-) Well not only does the list not contain all of the players who started in 2001, to be honest the list does not even contain all of the players who started in the first month (January of 2001). An example of this is the creator of this site himself, Silverion. For those not aware, he was #6 on the top 25 smiths (mining+smithing) in the original toplist dated January 21st, 2001. Now he was playing at the beginning, infact tip.it itself was created about ~2 weeks or so after the launch of runescape. Yet, hes absent from the list. Many of the earlier players in general are no present in this list. For example: Mysticsmagic, DarkPrince, Pugxsi, & Tks are among the many earlier players who are not on it. So I would hardly consider it a definitive list of original players.
  20. does gunar have a stalker? yeah, i remember that sig, i am fairly sure he did it. probably got paid like 15 cabbage for it or something Haha, Don't mind me, I have just been on a bit of a nostalgia kick lately. :P I always enjoy seeing stuff from the earlier RS classic era, and tended to save all sorts of stuff randomly related to runescape over the years. To be honest, I couldn't even tell you what I still have and what was lost over the years. Though I should really sort thru some of it one day. Check your private message on here, by the way.
  21. If I recall correctly, the claimed source of that list of early players was the highscores list for a new skill which all players had zero experience in. At that time, the highscores listed those with equal experience based upon order of account registration. However, I believe it was also stated that various criteria of inactivity would cause accounts to not be listed at all. Even if 28,000 accounts sounds like a lot to be inactive, it wouldn't surprise me if 25k+ people made accounts at school, etc, to try it out for a few minutes without ever getting really invested. This is all based on vague recollections, so some of the details may be off. I believe this topic has been discussed at much greater length on other sites. It came from the herblaw list, before the skill was released. With no experience, it indeed sorted players in the order that they started in. However, there is a few things to consider: 1. Like previously mentioned, after a while I am fairly sure they did indeed start removing people from the list for inactivity. Though I do not believe that was originally the case. Whether such was happening by the time of the list, I cannot tell you. 2. Remember in the earliest days, people used to use mules. By the time the list was discovered, mules had been effectively been replaced by item banks. 3. Many accounts where probably only used a few times, then never touched again. 4. Inactive accounts (mules or otherwise) who had not gained so many levels/value in items on their character were deleted. 5. By the time the list was discovered, bans had long since replaced the black hole and banned accounts would not appear on the highscores.
  22. Yesss!!! I haven't seen that in ages. I had 2 other sigs that would get pulled in on a random order through a PERL script on my website. Damnit I was a nerd. I tried to find that gameboy design on archive.org the other day.. images weren't loading. Nice work :) Sadly as you said, the gameboy design seems to all have broken images. Archive.org is very flaky about capturing things. http://web.archive.org/*/http://www.gunar.com/023/* Didn't you design McTavish's signature, with the money piling up? I think I have that saved somewhere too, though I cannot seem to find it at the moment.
  23. That is exactly what I think. The dislike of the mainstream comes from someone attempting to define themselves as a person from the music they like, the films they watch, etc... So when it catches on with the general public, they view it as a betrayal. Turning their backs on the original fanbase if you will. Or perhaps just angry that its less unique than it was before. But yeah, in some cases I would say hate is too strong of a word. In other cases, people behave in such a vile manner that I believe it to be fitting.
  24. Here is a question that I found myself pondering... if anything becomes mainstream, is it destined to be hated? It can be anything... A band, a film, fashion, or whatever... To me, it seems once something is popular with the general public, people start looking for a reason to hate it. Any reason at all really. This is especially true if it started out relatively unknown to the general public, with just a small cult following. Now I am not saying whether or not it is deserved. Sometimes for example, when a band becomes popular they indeed do change their style and its understandable that people have mixed opinions on whether or not its for the better. I understand that. Lets use Dane Cook as a example here. He started off relatively unknown, gaining popularity on the internet from places like Myspace. However once his popularity grew, hating him suddenly become the "cool" thing to do. In essence, I have to wonder if he wasn't a victim of his own success in a way. What do you think, is anything that becomes popular destined to be hated?
  25. You're reading it wrong... How? The way the list works is a direct comparison between the amount of current maxed players (the new list), compared to the previous lists.. For example, take Attack. There was 142,925 who had 99 attack on April 21st, 2011 (list 5). The previous list (list 4), which is dated July 4th, 2010 had 103,570 with 99 attack. That is an increase of 39,355 people reaching 99 attack between these two periods. Likewise the original list (list 1), which is dated December 17th, 2007 had only 24,888 players with 99 attack. So between the time period of the first list, and the most recent one 118,037 people have reached 99 attack. Thats more than 5.5x times as many players from just a few years ago. Happy that you enjoy it. What I like about making these lists is simply having something to look back on. Similar in a way to how Kingleonardo used to keep track of how many people had reached 100+ combat back in the day. From a historical perspective, I find it to be quite interesting to just see how things have changed. I remember the first time a player achieved a level 99 skill (everdred, with 99 woodcutting). By comparison, 150,047 people had 99 woodcutting when I made that post.
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