Hevendor_Guy

People don't like it when you tell them they're wrong. Metagaming communities are typically disliked by the general population. For example, the metagame community on world of warcraft is called "elitist jerks" because a lot of people hate them. The flaming comes inherently with any metagaming community. At the end of the day, there's always people like hevendor that will explode with irrational rage if you so much as tell them they're doing something wrong. Ah, the queen of efficiency rears her ugly head. I've yet to explode with any irrational rage (before you go quoting a pm convo I had with tui, that was on something purely between him and myself irrelevant to this) but your clanners like usa hell yes seem to really like "exploding with irrational rage" as shown in the chatbox pics. It's a shame DGS leaders started listening to you :thumbdown: was a pretty decent community til efficiency and elitism took over (and to quell a few retorts before they surface: elitism doesn't have to come in the form of level reqs, many times it's an attitude, and a lot of DGSers show it.) All of the efficiency elites are the ones who started this clan. Grimy, Obt, Cheesy etc. You [bleep]ed up in a dungeon and can't handle any sort of criticism, go cry somewhere else and don't let your skirt get caught in the door on your way out. And stop spamming this thread, some people read it to learn about dg, not to hear you [bleep]ing about not having the capacity to handle being told you screwed up. Actually, you're both incorrect. As Cheeesy has so eloquently and repeatedly pointed out, the main point of DGS was to teach people how to dg. Btw Jactise, cool your jets - you don't flame very well.

People don't like it when you tell them they're wrong. Metagaming communities are typically disliked by the general population. For example, the metagame community on world of warcraft is called "elitist jerks" because a lot of people hate them. The flaming comes inherently with any metagaming community. At the end of the day, there's always people like hevendor that will explode with irrational rage if you so much as tell them they're doing something wrong. Ah, the queen of efficiency rears her ugly head. I've yet to explode with any irrational rage (before you go quoting a pm convo I had with tui, that was on something purely between him and myself irrelevant to this) but your clanners like usa hell yes seem to really like "exploding with irrational rage" as shown in the chatbox pics. It's a shame DGS leaders started listening to you :thumbdown: was a pretty decent community til efficiency and elitism took over (and to quell a few retorts before they surface: elitism doesn't have to come in the form of level reqs, many times it's an attitude, and a lot of DGSers show it.)

Cussing me out for making astrals is giving me chance? HAHAHAHA I don't remember anyone "cursing you out for making astrals." I'm sorry but a 15 second reaction time to gtgd or moving the gt to your gate completely ruins floor times and people who do that are unwanted. I'd understand if it was different techniques that you needed help with but your problem was using the same amount of effort in the dungeon that you would use towards woodcutting Ivy, and that doesn't fly. Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous. It severely inhibits the rate that the floor opens up, the keyer cannot do as much, so yes, it does affect floor times Also it does not show that you have the right attitude because if you think it's fine to waste 15 seconds here or there, sooner or later it will add up. It's fine to mess up, and apologize for it, i've personally done it a multitude of times, but to just get so defensive about it to the point that you make screenshots and try to defame DGS is wrong. If you have any issues, you're free to PM any of the ranks in-game or use the PM system on TIF, but this is not the right place to do things. I'm a bit more inclined to apologize when a) I make an honest mistake, which I didn't b) I'm not met with a flamestorm upon said mistake. 1) 50 of each 2) Are you really trying to make the argument that hitting control-shift-3 one time requires attention? 3) Not when it's showing how far this clan has strayed from the values it was built upon. Hevendor, you have already been asked kindly to use the proper channels of communication when dealing with a perceived problem of this nature. PM one of the admins or myself if you have a problem with a person in a dungeon. Do not continue posting your complaints on this thread. It's cute how civil you talk when everyone's watching!

Cussing me out for making astrals is giving me chance? HAHAHAHA I don't remember anyone "cursing you out for making astrals." I'm sorry but a 15 second reaction time to gtgd or moving the gt to your gate completely ruins floor times and people who do that are unwanted. I'd understand if it was different techniques that you needed help with but your problem was using the same amount of effort in the dungeon that you would use towards woodcutting Ivy, and that doesn't fly. Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous. It severely inhibits the rate that the floor opens up, the keyer cannot do as much, so yes, it does affect floor times Also it does not show that you have the right attitude because if you think it's fine to waste 15 seconds here or there, sooner or later it will add up. It's fine to mess up, and apologize for it, i've personally done it a multitude of times, but to just get so defensive about it to the point that you make screenshots and try to defame DGS is wrong. If you have any issues, you're free to PM any of the ranks in-game or use the PM system on TIF, but this is not the right place to do things. I'm a bit more inclined to apologize when a) I make an honest mistake, which I didn't b) I'm not met with a flamestorm upon said mistake. 1) 50 of each 2) Are you really trying to make the argument that hitting control-shift-3 one time requires attention? 3) Not when it's showing how far this clan has strayed from the values it was built upon.

Cussing me out for making astrals is giving me chance? HAHAHAHA I don't remember anyone "cursing you out for making astrals." I'm sorry but a 15 second reaction time to gtgd or moving the gt to your gate completely ruins floor times and people who do that are unwanted. I'd understand if it was different techniques that you needed help with but your problem was using the same amount of effort in the dungeon that you would use towards woodcutting Ivy, and that doesn't fly. Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous.

Pretty classy clan you got goin' on here' date=' huh? [/quote'] It's easy for you to create a winning argument by just filtering through all of the information down to a few selective screenshots, and basing it ALL on one dungeon. I've DGed plenty of times with USA, and if he's calling you those things you PROBABLY did something to deserve it (like afking or idling) Those are the only times I was spoken to - was I supposed to quote calls for doors and keys instead? :rolleyes: I did nothing to deserve the flames - I was being flamed before I even finished crafting cosmics/astrals in the start room.

Cussing me out for making astrals is giving me chance? HAHAHAHA

A recent experience of mine with DGS (forewarning, pretty bad language upcoming): Easily the worst large I have ever done. Best part? Here are their dg levels: 114, 105, 104, and 104. Additionally, DGS was built around the principle of teaching people to dg well. New dgers tend to do things wrong because they're learning, right? Here's what a DGS rank (Tui) has to say about doing things wrong with the clan: Pretty classy clan you got goin' on here, huh?

If you have yak, you have to change the inv to allow for much shorter trips(likely one hour) and bring lots of food. Defense bonuses will more pronounced so try using full barrows(veracs skirt and helm). If you can, kite melee attacks as much as you can(similar to kiting 360s in fight caves). Overall, i'd suggest sticking to range in such a situation as it's just so much easier. What do you mean by "kite" as a verb?