Nero

Your forces? Grim... The closest land you own to the European wall is India. Tbh, I can't stop chuckling over this because it makes no sense. How did you forces get halfway across the entire planet (which is largely controlled by me) without being detected? Stealth systems wouldn't hide them. Oh and stealth helicopters hahaha

It went like so: -Adrenal was inactive, so a bunch of people were eyeing his land -They invade India, and debate over cutting it up which way so everyone gets a piece -I notify Adrenal, considering its his country and all, offering to take temporary governship over it until it gets back, so that its nobodys country, but I'm defending it -He posts giving me the country completely (which I didn't really want) -Everyone gets mad at me -I get annoyed and so finally give it to Japan (since giving it to Britain seemed incredibly illogical) -Britain and Japan merge, Britain gets India (zzz) -Britain sells it to you

You know, if anyone of this had happened (which it didn't, since I was never notified that someone was nuking me, which is kinda a hard thing to hide), don't you think it would've been easier to say... 1. Manage to get past the wall through the waterways 2. Disguise yourself as citizens to get past the wall 3. Y'know...go over the wall? 4. Simply fly over with helicopters? I don't quite understand why you would nuke the wall just so you could fly over it with helicopters...

Your point? All my ships have Dirithanium plating, and so a blast from an energy weapon that wasn't highly concentrated would simply be absorbed and dispelled by the plating. Also, Spec Ops teams generaly operate as discretly and covertly as possible. Nuking a spot for entry isn't exactly discreet. This debate is obviously pointless, though, as getting into Federation lands is the easy part. Then you have to get past all the SAM batteries and AA sites, and the radar sites (which, if you remember back to V1 have passive radar systems that can detect stealthed aircraft). Nevermind the fact that using a spot that has recently been nuked for entry is probably the dumbest thing anyone could ever do. See Totskoye Range Training Exercise. Btw, spies have never worked in this game. They're too over-powered to use, especially without any sort of outside moderation. "My spies kill your leader, your country is in chaos!", "My spies poison your food supply, your army dies!", "My spies manage to get Conan O'Brian kicked off the tonight show and get him replaced by someone who's out of touch with most of the viewing audience!". See? It doesn't really work.

Apparently Grim has ninja-pirate commando spies.

Which I promptly gave up, not after everyone tried to cut it up and grab as much of it as possible (why would Delhi seceed from Mumbai? Haha!).

How about we just make the rule that when you quit you can't just give your entire country away to someone. Since that was the big problem with the last hegemony where Doom managed to inherit an entire continent, and Sere managed to get an illogical group of countries spread out across the world, and with cultures that shared next to nothing in common.

Dear Malaysia, It has come to the Terran Federation's attention that your leaders are under the misguided idea that a comprehensive Earth-to-Space missile defense grid is comprised of a singular missile silo located is an easily accesible and easily tamperable location. This is not the case, and hopefully this letter will be enough to inform you that a much larger number than 1 missile silo is needed to defend an entire planet. Your current enemy and future overlord, The Terran Federation -- Grim you can't just pull crap out of your [wagon] because you're suddenly in a war. You don't have a "giant spy network" inside my empire. I have a spy network in your nation, though, considering I've actually invested money into it and mentioned is before (Project Gestapo). Huh? If that's the case, then your population has been eating Anthrax Pie for the past 40 years, which means your population is 0. I will put that under advisement. Though, I'd like to remind you that I have battleships that are specifically designed to destroy large numbers of weapons.

1 Flagship (Sa Matra Class) 10 Ultra Heavy Battleships 40 Super Heavy Battleships 100 Heavy Battleships 29,800 Battleships You attacking my E2S missile grid...from the inside. Okay... My ships that attacked Nova Lux attacked from the inside as well! They came out of the planets core. What you said is pretty much "My super secret spies collapsed all your defenses! And none were caught!" Nevermind that my E2S grid doesn't exactly have a conveiniently placed "DONT PRESS THIS! IT SHUTS OFF THE ENTIRE DEFENSES FOR THE PLANET!" button somewhere that's easily accesible by people who are: A.) Not Terran citizens B.) Not Terran military personnel C.) Not Terran ethnicity D.) Don't have the proper access codes E.) Don't have the correct fingerprints, retina scans, etc F.) Don't have even the STANDARD genetic improvements given to Terran military personnel, let alone the higher tier ones given to those deemed loyal (who are the same ones who would have any sort of ability to shut down a local grid). Even the highest ranking General in the Terran military doesn't have all the codes to shut down an entire planet's defenses, let alone Earth's.

The map that Retech posted was scaled down, so it makes colouring it in impossible, so I'm basing this off Arch's (which didn't get distorted): [hide=World Map][/hide]

Um, what? I have the most extensive E2S defenses out of anyone, both on Earth and elsewhere; hell, I have planetary [bleep]ing shields. Furthermore, the majority of my industrial capacity is located in on Midgard and Holmgard, in two systems that are 20+ lightyears away from Earth. Also, I have 2 battlestations around Earth, as well as my entire Beta fleet, which is around 30,000 ships. And you didn't think that that information would be readily available to anyone? Listen, just because you start a secret project doesn't mean its secret. If I start a project say...to build a giant robotic killing machine the size of a planet everyone is going to know about it, regardless of whether I call it 'secret' or give it some codename. Building a bunch of defenses around your land is something that is impossible to keep secret.

I'm giving you oil for uranium.

1. We were allies. They were attacked during the war, I know exactly where they are. 2. Not really. It just means it would take longer. 3. I have my fleet + Sere's + The Aryans. My fleet is actually quite a lot larger than yours, since most of your time was spent building flashy space buildings out in the middle of nowhere. 4. I never declared war on you.

Oh ok. We're still trading oil for uranium, yes? And does anyone have the most recent map that isn't resized so that all the pixels get buggered up when it's posted?

So then you'll be influencing me? :s Which will again be disbanded and sold. Also, Icu, we're trading my oil for your uranium, yes?

Siege doesn't just mean I'll sit around outside while you grow food and laugh. There would be constant attacks, posioning food supplies, power cuts, etc. Eventually, if the people inside didn't die, the people would just get fed up and demand that the military surrenders, considering they won't be killed, hurt, oppressed, or anything. Jeez, why can't people just agree to have a unification, so that we end this game peacefully?

On what? And Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, and Azerbaijan. I'm just following everyone else. Mather has taken over all of Scandinavia Retech has half the pacific Paul has taken some countries Rocco has Malaysia as a puppet and Ross has just invaded Indonesia -- Important to note: I'm not annexing Ukraine. Neither is Ukraine losing its independence. Ukraine and Romania are forming the South Slavic Republic, so essentially, Romania is losing its independence. Futhermore, I have no bloody army so I'm not exactly going to be going on an annex-fest and go create a super-power. But you're daft if you think I'm going to sit around with my piddly little Eastern European country and wait to get invaded.

It's South Slavic.

Sold to Icu. Also, Ukraine has joined with Romania. It shall be the South Slavic Republic.

Probably just going to declare himself winner then lock the thread.

? Your Romanian, hes American.... It means 'no'. We have 5 billion! Anyone care to go higher?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_Armed_Forces So, nein!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege

Doom, I have more military personnel on Earth than you do people. -- And Arch stop screwing around with everything just because you don't like what's happening. You're here to resolve disputes, not pilot the game.

Now we're rolling.