It would be sooooooooo nice if we could get like 8 players each session, make it like a hegemony game with absolutely concrete rules that you can't bend since its with the game engine. I mean, it's not that hard at all, considering if you don't have the money to buy Eu3 complete + the expansions...there's absolutely no copyright protection on them so you can just pirate them! Playing with 4 people is good, but I want a Europe that is completely populated by players, with shifting alliances and backroom deals, all the stuff we do on hegemony, but this time we actually have a set in stone rule base and a way to wage war and expand our empires legitimately. SO, to everyone who is not Archimage, a_bert, Icuownage, and myself. Get your [cabbage] together, and get EU3 + all its expansions working with the checksum DCOA, and start playing! I'm looking at you Retech, Trol, Grim, Mather, and anyone else that has expressed interest in playing this awesome game together. GET ON IT.