Oh quit lieing, half of you don't play for fun and there's no need to lie about it too. I don't play for fun, since I don't really see fun in teammates frustrating you, doors requiring you to make pots to open etc taking way too long, annoying boss monsters, there are just too many things that annoy me. And yes I'm grinding it 'till I have my rapier and frost dragons unlocked, but who cares, if I wanna play for fun I'll do a skill I enjoy. (PS dont think I'm a dung haters, it's actually a creative skill, unlike runecrafting etc.)