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Vera completes two towers, and 20 unstrung bows. as I said before, I should get 1.2 masonry, 1.3 crafting, and .5 fletching, if the ratios stay the same. What's everyone doing now?

At the peak of my production during wartime with far more facilities than you, during the last thread, I was putting out 6 a year. I really think we should stick with 1%, as it's more realistic, and it means we won't have absurdly large armies and navies. I also think we should have some sort of upkeep system. The reason why the US doesn't have a ton of carriers is because the upkeep price is absurd. I'm thinking per ship it costs 5-10% of it's original price a year to upkeep. That means that if you pay 20 billion on subs, it'll cost about a billion-2 billion a year to upkeep. This can easily be kept track of by just writing down however much you spend on ships in a word file. Maybe you can counteract this by keeping ships in reserve, but it takes one real life day to put them back in action.

No way you can build 100 destroyers, that would take over 20 years, with your facilities.

Holland is a province in the Netherlands, or am I forgetting geography?

4% is too much, 1% is more realistic. It also means we won't be colonizing the stars anytime soon.

4% was way too much last game, it's 1% this game (5% of taxes) Dusty, I would, but I'd rather not spend money outside of SATO if I can help it.

Eh, not as much. Most of the Favelas are nonexistent, new towns are popping up, and with a lot of new industry there is almost no unemployment. The average GDP per capita is probably around 16-17,000 now, which is pretty good. Russia's (irl) is 11k/person, and china's is 6k/person. They're doing way more than me. EDIT: @Dungeon, eh I'm not gonna go after Africa, and nothing above Panama. That way I can focus on making this area into a superpower without having to either not pay enough attention to each state, or having to micromanage way too much. A 50% raise in GDP per capita after only 4 years? -- Talks with Slovenia are going well. Yeah. It's just an initial burst though, after the formation of SATU/O, and it's slowing down already. Brazil's growth rate in real life is already like 6% iirc, so it's not that big of a boost considering how we play the game.

Yeah, but your PPP gdp/capita is as it was in real life.

Well in both cases it just means there's a lot of poor, and a lot of rich. China has more industrial strength due to numbers and all though.

Eh, not as much. Most of the Favelas are nonexistent, new towns are popping up, and with a lot of new industry there is almost no unemployment. The average GDP per capita is probably around 16-17,000 now, which is pretty good. Russia's (irl) is 11k/person, and china's is 6k/person. They're doing way more than me. EDIT: @Dungeon, eh I'm not gonna go after Africa, and nothing above Panama. That way I can focus on making this area into a superpower without having to either not pay enough attention to each state, or having to micromanage way too much.

If you really want, you could be, but I'd also recommend: Saudi Arabia, South Africa, India (since it was abandoned), or some random western european country. If you want Argentina though, you won't really be able to expand.

That's not how it works. Being able to produce that much oil from nothing is so stupid. Do you know how much algae you would need? Congrats, you've destroyed your entire ecosystem, your people starve. You can't just magically assign 25 million jobs to people either, and this game's been going for what, 5 years? And you researched a magical oil plant, which can pump out 9 million barrels a day? An no, it doesn't, it means that every 5 people make a barrel of oil a day.

Just looked at some charts. I assume if you're exporting that much, you're self sufficient oil wise, otherwise you'd use it domestically. Japan is the number 2 importer of oil (5.3m/day), then with france and germany that pushes you up to producing over 9 million barrels/day, more than Russia. Overpowered as [bleep].

Retech, no way you're an oil giant yet. It's not possible for you to go from 133k barrels a year, to over 5 million. No matter how good your algae thing is, if it allows more than a boost of perhaps a few hundred thousand barrels to a million a year, its heavily, heavily overpowered.

Argentina has officially merged with Brazil. Argentina and Brazil have been the closest partners in SATO, but the rest will follow over the next few years, at least probably.

You're not an oil giant. Not even in the top 10 for production.

For the record, I've finished two more towers, making four total, and then 20 unstrung bows (taking the same amount of time as a tower. If the ratios are the same as last time, I should get around 1.3 crafting, 1.2 masonry, and .5 fletching.

Icu, it makes the game more interesting, I like it. The second Panama Canal is half finished. Mather, Saudi Arabia would have no desire to join you, and your culture is so dissimilar. New tanks are being produced en masse. They are roughly equivalent to an m1 abrams.

Brazil's first Nuclear Submarine is complete, and more are on the way. Tank factories and arms facilities are also being built in sparsely populated areas. In other new, the solar panels on roofs in Brasilia was a major success, and funding will be expanded to cover cities such as Rio, Sao Paulo, Salvador, and Fortaleza, and then eventually all cities above 100,000 people. This will make all domestic needs require now exterior energy, and all will be self sustaining. There will still be a grid, and energy from the panels will flow into it as necessary. Oil production will continue, though more and more will be sold rather than consumed. More and more cars produced by Hydraus are being bought, and since they are very efficient, and run on fuel cells rather than oil they are making owning a car a lot cheaper. A new branch of special forces has been started, BRRF- Brazilian Rapid Response Force. They have a special base equipped with the fastest possible jets. There are about 5000 BRRF total. When needed, they can be anywhere in the world in under 15 hours, parachute in with relevant supplies, and do what's necessary. They can be equipped with riot/crowd control gear, humanitarian supplies, or just straight up firepower. They also are equipped with extremely high quality NBC suits, making them perfect for responding rapidly to chemical or nuclear attacks. The new Brazilian line of small arms is finished, and are being produced. More info later, though most households will eventually be issued a rifle.

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The CAR doesn't include Panama.

The majority of the Brazilian Navy, Air Force and Vehicles are being scrapped or sold on the private market. They will be replaced over the next few years, though the process began as soon as I started, and is just being finished now. Most units will be replaced with modernized ones, and more of them. Plus there are several new types of planes, tanks, ships and helicopters that will be undergoing final trials in the following years.

South American +Panama countries are essentially mine, as we're all intertwined at this point. I'm gonna give it another 5 years or so til it's actually official though. Remember though that even if I had all of them, my GDP would be lower than Japan's, and my land far less than Russia, and my population lower than India, or probably in-game Japan.

Just saying, there's no way you can afford all that naval and air force stuff. Stealth aircraft cost over a billion each, plus many billions to design. All those ships will also cost several hundred billion. You're gdp is 900 billion, you can't afford any of that.

Here are some notable production stats for SATO: Oil Production: 7,080,000 bbl/day Estimated Worth (2009): 193,815,000,000 USD Gold Production: 360 Tonnes/Year Estimated Worth (2009) 12,152,700,000 USD Silver Production: 4564 Tonnes/year Estimated Worth (2009) 2,575,845,000 USD Iron Production: 356,280,000 Tonnes/year Estimated Worth (2009) 35,628,000,000 USD Copper Production: 6,738,713 Tonnes/year Estimated Worth (2009) 40,432,278,000 USD If anyone want's to make a deal with any of that stuff, pm me. Otherwise it will be traded as normal.