Wisp

No way you're average gdp is 125,000. Even if you just controlled Norway, that'd be a 150% increase. (I'm talking about Purchasing Power Parity, not Nominal). If we're talking about nominal, that's a 300% increase for sweden, and around a 60% increase for norway, and a 300% increase for Finland as well. Also, most people wouldn't stand for 45% tax. Also, your gdp went from roughly 1 trillion to over 3.2 trillion. That means an 8% increase per year, and considering we were yelling at retech over 5%... What I ended up with as tax income is just a few b above the total gdp of my countries so it isn't so mouch increased from 2009 gdp, unless you want me to go complicated with companies and such I'll go with it. Um, yeah it is, it's a huge increase. That's like the US getting 13 trillion in tax revenue each year, and saying it's not that big an increase. The fact is, you increased at 8% per year, which is way too much.

I only have a prototype built now. I'll send em along in a few days when I write it up.

I already have something similar (earth to orbit), only it's way cheaper than a P-Jet, and uses none of the same principles (I assume), so atleast I can do some things against Archi...

I'll join your project, if you want. That should cut down the time even more.

Skipping development because you know how to do it is [developmentally delayed]ed. Do you know where ever piece of the plane will fit? All the tiny little bits of technology going into it? No? Then it still needs development. Again, I take the example of the Raptor. It used mostly pre-existing technology, and took I think a decade of development plus 17 years of flight testing or so.

No way you're average gdp is 125,000. Even if you just controlled Norway, that'd be a 150% increase. (I'm talking about Purchasing Power Parity, not Nominal). If we're talking about nominal, that's a 300% increase for sweden, and around a 60% increase for norway, and a 300% increase for Finland as well. Also, most people wouldn't stand for 45% tax. Also, your gdp went from roughly 1 trillion to over 3.2 trillion. That means an 8% increase per year, and considering we were yelling at retech over 5%...

We were actually planning on building it offshore off of the northwest coast of Brazil, which is on the equator. It's more of a test of actually building the thing, rather than making it self standing.

It's only a mile high, so it wouldn't really damage much. It's only a few times higher than skyscrapers. Eventually we plan to construct a space elevator on the moon, probably before the earth, as it's much easier. EDIT: It's literally only twice the size of the burj dubai.

One hydro electric plant and three nuclear plants have been finished. The energy from these will go to mostly creating hydrogen for fuel cells. All cities over 90,000 people now are solar-ized, causing near 100% green energy to power almost everything. We are looking into solutions for the rising problem of nuclear waste. Brazil also starts building a prototype space elevator, around 1 mile long, out of newly completed nanofiber tech based materials. We propose an area on the moon be put aside for storing nuclear waste, once there is a cost effective way to get the waste up there. Also, research begins on "space blimps" or orbital airships.

Oh, I thought you meant power on a global scale, not just within the SC.

Japan and Brazil have no power?

Deep earth, and robotic mining are complete. It will be mastered on march 1st though. Dusty gets this tech too, he helped research it. The Brazilian Navy now consists of almost to 100 modern warships, including two supercarriers, and a dozen normal carriers.

Brazil isn't a major debt holder, though. I'll think about it, but it would probably ruin me if I did that. It's one of the top 10 holders I believe. I'll lower the price to 2000, and the islands if you want.

Also Sere, I'll drop all US debt held by Brazil (around 175 billion) for 3,000 tons of gold. That's worth roughly 99 billion, so you save money in the long run. Alternatively, you can give us 2500 tons, and the falkland islands.

The SATO now keeps all but 5 tons of gold produced annually within it's borders. The mines are nationalized at this point.

Well I have my own version of the IMF in SATO, and it's based in Brazil, but it's just for the SATO countries.

Neither do I understand how Britain, the US, Canada, and Holland unified Or France, Germany, and Morroco Or Japan, Yemen, Indonesia, South Korea, and half of Papa New Guinea Or Russia, Kazakhstan, and soon Mongolia Or China, Cambodia, Laos, and some other one Or Italy, Austria, and Tunisia *shrug* Atleast I make sense, apparently.

SATO will stop all trade with the federation over the next 3 years, due to their lack of foresight economically. It would have made a ton of more sense to ease into the new system (or, old system, actually), rather than gung [garden tool] it. Seeing as so far it looks like America's maybe even profited from this, cutting out a lot of trade to them could help even it out.

Well seeing as that's not adjusted from real world, and this world is different. I'm canceling all the debt I owe to the federation, since they caused the economic disaster. If they want to do something about it, they can. Also, I'm not following this stupid gold standard system, sure, some of my money will be backed by gold, but the rest will be backed by everything else. As long as I can go to the store and buy a sandwich with my money, it has backing.

Well, archi doesn't think that GDP matters, and that gold is the only thing that counts in the world. So, same to him. And no, the federation currency is among the weakest, since it's based in gold, and there's only so much gold. Because of this your economical holds are limited to what you have in gold. All gold mines in Brazil are now nationalized, as well as most in SATO. SATO's gold fund is now going to get 75% of SATO's annual gold production, Brazil 15%, and the rest to whomever buys.

No, I'm just ignoring your lack of economical understanding. Seeing as the way I've been handling my nation is making it rely less and less on imports, and less on profits from exports, the world crash doesn't affect me that much. Also, 90%? Are you kidding me? This further proves my point.

All this is doing is making the price of gold rise dramatically. By about... 10 times? No, way more than that. There's only a few trillion dollars in gold in the world. Money doesn't have to have a backing, if it's dealt with well. If a dollar can buy you a sandwich, a real, physical thing, then it has backing. If you can take 100 bucks and buy a ton of iron, it has backing. So on.

Also producing enough gold, oil, iron, copper, silver and so on to be pretty self sufficient is nice.

I love how isolated I am, geographically. I haven't had even one minor conflict haha.

I'm dealing with it in my own way. Instead of borrowing money, I'll just advance at a slower rate, and still remain steady financially. My debt isn't too high, so it's not that hard to continue.