April 4, 200719 yr It's an important ceremonial position, like it or not. Even if countires don't have a monarchy, they often have a similar kind of position that goes to an elected official who acts as a kind of travelling ambassador. I'd say the Queen was a lot better than that. An elected official, you said it yourself is the Queen elected? No, therefore her very position is undemocratic. She has reserve powers which give her alot of power, you can argue they are cermonial and perhaps it seems that way but she still has alot of power. Parabola please don't accuse me of ignorance when you have failed to reply to two of my points: You failed to mention anything about the fact that Britain as a democracy needs a Royal Bloodline. Working is travelling now? Getting to travel all around the world regularly visiting new places and people is hard work? What are you talking about being "paraded", its not like she is coerced into doing any of it, as the Queen she can do whatever she likes. This includes abdicating. I guess I regard the monarch as more than just one person, but the entire tradition, the history, the crown jewels, the palace and so on and so on. That's why I said the Queen generates the income, because without this monarchy that tourist appeal would not be there, if you follow. "Wow France was nice, but I find the lack of Monarchy a real setback. The Eiffel Tower, the Louvre, Notre Dame and the Arc de Triomphe just didn't match up to the fact that there was a remote chance I would see the Queen".
April 4, 200719 yr Author Im curious, what is your gripe with "God Save The Queen"? In short, I like a National Anthem to be about the country. Plus, I don't like the tune to "God Save The Queen". It's like a funeral dirge. It's a bit better then Germany's National Anthem, "Deutschland, Deutschland ÃÆÃâÃâüber alles! ÃÆÃâÃâ¦Ã¢â¬Åber alles in der Welt!" (Germany, Germany above all! Above anything in the world!) Me doing staff.
April 4, 200719 yr "GSTQ" isn't the national anthem of England, but Britain. The English national anthem is "Land of Hope and Glory", which I think is a great anthem. However, so long as England remains the 'head' of Britain, it will adopt the anthem "God Save The Queen". This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you.
April 4, 200719 yr Meh, LOHAG is all fine and dandy, but its nothing compared to Jerusalem. In my school's weekly church service (all 700 of us pack into the local church, :shock: , I know), Jerusalem is pretty much the only song everyone bothers to sing. And when we can be bothered to sing it, we sing it with real passion, not just murmuring along vageuly in time. 'Sides, a lot of people already know the words to Jerusalem, watch any England rugby match :P
April 4, 200719 yr The English national anthem is "Land of Hope and Glory" As far as I'm aware this is not the official anthem of England. The Poison Fairy
April 4, 200719 yr I go to many a rugby match :P So you're right in saying that! Incidentally, play had stopped for an injury, and someone in the crows shouted: "Give me a D!" ...What the hell, I thought. "D!" "Give me an I!" "I!" "Give me an S!" ...Where the smeg is this going? "S!" "Give me a C!" "C?" Give me an O!" "O!" "Let's all have a Disco! Let's all have a disco! Na-na-na-na! hey! Na-na-na-na! hey!" Nearly wet myself :oops: This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you.
April 4, 200719 yr i dont really know too much about the queen but i think the royal family should stay, but its true that they get too much money Click my main sig to see my fakes :D Proud to be Mexican, yay!
April 4, 200719 yr The English national anthem is "Land of Hope and Glory" As far as I'm aware this is not the official anthem of England. Right you are, but I base it because Britain uses GSTQ. Just wiki'd it for us: National anthem England does not have an official designated national anthem, as the United Kingdom as a whole has "God Save The Queen" as its national anthem. The following though are widely regarded as unofficial English national hymns: "I Vow to Thee, My Country": words by Cecil Spring-Rice, music by Gustav Holst "Land of Hope and Glory": words by A C Benson, music by Edward Elgar (although this refers to all of the United Kingdom, not only England) "Nimrod": music by Edward Elgar "Jerusalem": words by William Blake, music by Hubert Parry To a lesser extent, Heart of Oak, the unofficial Royal Navy anthem has also been proposed. Music by Dr. William Boyce (1711ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ1779). English words by the famous actor David Garrick (1716ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ1779) in 1759. "God Save The Queen" (the national anthem for the UK as a whole) is usually played for English sporting events (e.g. football matches) against teams from outside the UK (although "Land of Hope and Glory" has also been used as the English anthem for the Commonwealth Games and the England national rugby league team). "Jerusalem" has been sung before England cricket matches. "Rule Britannia" (Britannia being the Roman name for Great Britain a personification of the United Kingdom) was often used in the past for the English national football team when they played against another of the home nations but more recently "God Save The Queen" has been used by both the rugby union and football teams. There's nothing like a bit of singing in the stand to gain comaraderie, morale and support for your fellow friend and team. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you.
April 4, 200719 yr "GSTQ" isn't the national anthem of England, but Britain. That may be strictly true however, Scotland has never accepted GSTQ for several reasons - one of which being that it used to contain the following verse; "Lord, grant that Marshal Wade, May by thy mighty aid, Victory bring. May he sedition hush and like a torrent rush, Rebellious Scots to crush, God save the King." He who learns must suffer, and, even in our sleep, pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart,and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus (525 BC - 456 BC)
April 4, 200719 yr Yeah, it's all just red tape, really :| This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you.
April 5, 200719 yr There's nothing like a bit of singing in the stand to gain comaraderie, morale and support for your fellow friend and team. It's always sad to see the Belgian team mutter the (yucky yucky) anthem. They have no clue how it goes. Then again, the Belgian soccer team is pathetic in the games as well, so yeah, I guess it figures. The Flemish anthem, on the other hand, resembles a war song. It cries of blood, battle, death, revenge and enemies ("He [the Flemish lion] covered in blood and gore, rips, detroys, crushes and triumphantly grins on the enemy's trembling body"). Very cool, in a very disturbed way.
April 5, 200719 yr It's an important ceremonial position, like it or not. Even if countires don't have a monarchy, they often have a similar kind of position that goes to an elected official who acts as a kind of travelling ambassador. I'd say the Queen was a lot better than that. An elected official, you said it yourself is the Queen elected? No, therefore her very position is undemocratic. She has reserve powers which give her alot of power, you can argue they are cermonial and perhaps it seems that way but she still has alot of power. Parabola please don't accuse me of ignorance when you have failed to reply to two of my points: Would you be happy if the Queen was elected but still had all the royal trappings? "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo"
April 5, 200719 yr When I went to Windsor Castle, the tour guide said that if ever the government was corrupt, the queen has the power to dissolve the government. Is this right?
April 5, 200719 yr As far as I know, it's not. The parliament themselves would have to ask the Queen for permission to resign. The Poison Fairy
April 5, 200719 yr I go to many a rugby match :P So you're right in saying that! Incidentally, play had stopped for an injury, and someone in the crows shouted: "Give me a D!" ...What the hell, I thought. "D!" "Give me an I!" "I!" "Give me an S!" ...Where the smeg is this going? "S!" "Give me a C!" "C?" Give me an O!" "O!" "Let's all have a Disco! Let's all have a disco! Na-na-na-na! hey! Na-na-na-na! hey!" Nearly wet myself :oops: That's weird as hell. You may know of John Westwood, an absolute die-hard Portsmouth fan, who goes to every single game? Well, at a Newcastle game recently, my father and I were sat directly in front of him and his little band of drummers (ouch..my ears...). Whenever he got bored, he started: 10.. 9.. 8.. 7.. (etc..) 2.. 1.. Lets all have a disco, lets all have a disco, a na na na OOH, a na na na OOH.
April 5, 200719 yr I'm suddenly in the mood for dancing \ This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you.
April 6, 200719 yr When I went to Windsor Castle, the tour guide said that if ever the government was corrupt, the queen has the power to dissolve the government. Is this right? The power to dissolve parliament is only used before a General Election to allow the political parties to go about their business of campaigning, being misleading & occasionally downright lying. Plus the decision to dissolve parliament is taken by the Prime Minister who has to ask the permission of the Queen. Again it's a ceremonial power & has no real meaning other than being an old tradition. He who learns must suffer, and, even in our sleep, pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart,and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus (525 BC - 456 BC)
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