No, I don't think that older or more mature players deserve updates. Being mature is it's own reward, you shouldn't just act mature and think you deserve gifts for it. Furthermore why abuse younger/immature people? you know usually both of those problems disappear after a while.

 

 

 

I would also like to adress the fact these younger players are the future of runescape. It is our duty as mature players to help them along and make sure that runescape has a future.(we can't play forever sadly.)

 

 

 

As for miniclip, I only know one person who found runescape from miniclip, (I know plenty of people)he also happens to be very mature.

It's been happening for a while now that jagex wants to attract younger people.

 

 

 

 

So all new players have to be young?

 

 

 

So all new players have to be young?

 

 

 

Didn't you say you were 12 or 13 in a previous thread, I'd consider that young.

 

 

 

I also know many people who would consider me [19] young. Hell, I consider myself young.

 

 

 

Maturity isn't an age, it's an attitude.

 

 

 

I have proof i've been playing since Feb 02, and am pretty sure I started a while before then - I'm not bored of RuneScape, and I still feel catered to.

 

 

 

If I got tired of the game, I've taken year long breaks at a time - When I came back there was always something new and fun to do.

 

 

 

Seriously, it gets tedious hearing people complain that Jadex isn't catering to the more mature / or higher leveled players. You're right, they aren't. But it's Jadex's game, they have the right to develop it however they see best.

 

 

 

If you don't like it - Do what I did, take a break...

 

 

 

Why stay on and play a game you don't enjoy? =/

 

 

 

It's already been decided Jadex care only about money - so hit 'em where it hurts. Their wallet.

 

 

 

A mass quittage of thousands of more mature / long time players might make Jadex see who they've been neglecting...

 

 

 

- Gid.

Jagex isn't focused just on money......If you had actually thought about that claim for a few minutes you would have discovred that you were wrong. Case in point macros, they put huge amounts of money in jagex's pocket BUT jagex still tries to get rid of them.

 

 

 

How is jagex neglecting you? Im sorry they can't focus all of their attention and resources on one small group of players just because that small group of players feel superior over every other player.

Didn't you say you were 12 or 13 in a previous thread, I'd consider that young.

 

 

 

I also know many people who would consider me [19] young. Hell, I consider myself young.

 

 

 

Maturity isn't an age, it's an attitude.

 

 

 

I have proof i've been playing since Feb 02, and am pretty sure I started a while before then - I'm not bored of RuneScape, and I still feel catered to.

 

 

 

If I got tired of the game, I've taken year long breaks at a time - When I came back there was always something new and fun to do.

 

 

 

Seriously, it gets tedious hearing people complain that Jadex isn't catering to the more mature / or higher leveled players. You're right, they aren't. But it's Jadex's game, they have the right to develop it however they see best.

 

 

 

If you don't like it - Do what I did, take a break...

 

 

 

Why stay on and play a game you don't enjoy? =/

 

 

 

It's already been decided Jadex care only about money - so hit 'em where it hurts. Their wallet.

 

 

 

A mass quittage of thousands of more mature / long time players might make Jadex see who they've been neglecting...

 

 

 

- Gid.

 

 

 

that's not what i meant.

 

 

 

I meant that he was saying that all the newer players were young. I'm sure there must be older players (for rs, not rl. e.g 20+) strating on rs too.

 

 

 

and i know that maturity is not an age thing. but many do. so i correct thier prejudicies. (age discrimination).

If you would actually read my quote then you would know I did not say anything close to what you are pretending.

 

 

 

Edit: If you would wonder i played RSC for a bit, not much and play rs2 for 3.5 almost 4 years now. So I do know what I'm talking about.

Jagex isn't focused just on money......If you had actually thought about that claim for a few minutes you would have discovred that you were wrong. Case in point macros, they put huge amounts of money in jagex's pocket BUT jagex still tries to get rid of them.

 

 

 

 

Jadex could do a hellova lot more to prevent macro's. Just ask None2none and Qeltar. :P

 

 

 

Seriously, how can you say Jadex aren't focused on money? That's the purpose of commercial companies, to generate the most income they can.

 

 

 

 

How is jagex neglecting you? Im sorry they can't focus all of their attention and resources on one small group of players just because that small group of players feel superior over every other player.

 

 

 

I never said that. Read my post properly. I said I feel catered to. However, despite the long time i've spent on my RS - I've lost two accounts, and my current account does fit into the 'Low Level Update' category that Jadex specifically target, it's 81 at the moment. I can appreciate the discontent of higher leveled players, and wish Jadex would just miss out a month of updates for my level, to give them something new to do.

 

 

 

Would that be ok with you? Or would you consider it pandering to a select group of people who "Feel superior over every other player"?

 

 

 

:|

 

 

 

The thing is, no matter what I would like - it doesn't really matter. As I said before, it's Jadex's game, and so long as they continue getting paycheck's - They are going to develop it however they see fit.

 

 

 

If you really can't stand it, vote with your feet...

Your right gid they want money, but its not their sole focus. If it was then runescape would be very diffrent. First of all no F2P, Jagex dosen't earn any(or if they do its very small) money from it. We also would see ads on members pages and a much larger advertising campaign to promote runescape.

Your right gid they want money, but its not their sole focus. If it was then runescape would be very diffrent. First of all no F2P, Jagex dosen't earn any(or if they do its very small) money from it. We also would see ads on members pages and a much larger advertising campaign to promote runescape.

 

 

 

F2P is an essential part of the game, other than supplying raw materials, it essentially IS the advertising campaign for P2P. No F2P = No P2P, imo.

 

 

 

So what do you think their sole focus is? :?

actually your wrong in the aspect. F2P is the advertising campaign for P2P but its not needed. if they were to remove F2P and replace all formerly F2P worlds with P2P worlds then resources wouldn't be a huge issue and membership would [bleep]e. The reason for the [bleep]e should be obvious but i will explain, people who are in F2P but don't see a good enough reason to jump to P2P will jump increasing membership therefore increasing profit.

actually your wrong in the aspect. F2P is the advertising campaign for P2P but its not needed. if they were to remove F2P and replace all formerly F2P worlds with P2P worlds then resources wouldn't be a huge issue and membership would [bleep]e. The reason for the [bleep]e should be obvious but i will explain, people who are in F2P but don't see a good enough reason to jump to P2P will jump increasing membership therefore increasing profit.

 

 

 

Members quit, eventually.

 

 

 

Without F2P to hook in new players, nobody would pay for RS from the start, before they are addicted.

 

 

 

Well, I say nobody, some would, but not enough to support the game.

 

 

 

Without F2P, the game would dwindle and eventually die.

Your right gid they want money, but its not their sole focus. If it was then runescape would be very diffrent. First of all no F2P, Jagex dosen't earn any(or if they do its very small) money from it. We also would see ads on members pages and a much larger advertising campaign to promote runescape.

 

 

 

I've seen another thread which was "do f2p deserve updates?" it said that each f2p person pays around $1.8 every month, each. and going on from that, i said that around $4.7 is generated from every three people. and there is approximately 3 X as much f2p than p2p. Using this, f2p only pay around 30 cents less than p2p. and there's more f2p joining every day.

 

 

 

which means that actually f2p generates nearly the same as p2p. it's just it's not such a wide known fact.

 

 

 

I've seen another thread which was "do f2p deserve updates?" it said that each f2p person pays around $1.8 every month, each. and going on from that, i said that around $4.7 is generated from every three people. and there is approximately 3 X as much f2p than p2p. Using this, f2p only pay around 30 cents less than p2p. and there's more f2p joining every day.

 

 

 

which means that actually f2p generates nearly the same as p2p. it's just it's not such a wide known fact.

 

 

 

>_<

 

 

 

F2P don't pay to play, thats why it's called 'Free to Play'.

 

 

 

IF they click on adds, the add company pays a little money to Jadex. However, how many F2P'ers actually click? And don't forget that a large number of 'F2P' accounts are actually alts of members, name saving accounts or inactive/retired players.

 

 

 

Despite that, F2P are still very important to the games economy, and serves as a very effective advertisement for P2P. At the end of the day, F2P is just a demo for the real game. People don't complain about the ten day trial they get for WoW, when it expires, or the free level of Rainbow Six they get with a PC mag - Do they? F2P scapers are lucky. :)

 

 

 

Anyway, this is going off topic.

 

 

 

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Gid, aren't you the one who posts on the RSGB (GameFAQs)?

Gid, aren't you the one who posts on the RSGB (GameFAQs)?

 

 

 

Not me, sorreh.

 

 

 

:wink:

Your right in the theory the F2P is important, but its not vital. I still disagrre with your assumption that Jagex just wants money. :?

they definately need more updates geared towards higher lvl players, i personally think that the quests should be ALOT different, right now the reqs are too easy and the rewards suck

should they? yes, but life isnt fair and loyalty do not always pay off

 

 

 

Jagex will continue to focus on their paying customers O:) as any other business

I think Jagex should give high-levels more updates. When I first started, I started to train fishing and cooking. At first, I fished shrimps and moved on to anchovies and then on to trout. By this level, the experience gaps were starting to incease and I began to get bored. When this happened, I tried combat using the cooked fish. When I found out that a trout didn't last me long, I almost quit as I thought that it was too much effort to keep fishing these, low-healing fish. Then I found out from a higher level player that lobsters could heal 12HP. 12HP!!! This encouraged me to stick with Runescape and train my skills up. Back on-topic, although lobsters only require 40 fishing to catch, they were high-level content to me as a new player. They gave me something to aim for and this kept me playing. If more high level updates were released, it would give low level players a target to aim for. This would mean that less of them would quit, increasing Jagex's profits. This means that they can cater more to high-levels, increase profits and give lower-levels something to aim for. What do they lose by doing this? Nothing! However, Jagex just wants quick cash by luring in new players and creating updates that don't require as much thought on their part. Curse Jagex's short-sightedness!

Im only 11 (12 in a few weeks 8-) ) and in my opinion im not immature. I don't scam, hack or macro (all the people who do are ruining this game). I don't beg, I work for my things, MOST people 13 and under are immature. In MY (you can think differently if you want) opinion I am mature.

Offcourse they should, no disscusion possible, but even if they did bring out say a new superweapon that outranks the Whip, there would still be people complaining about how expensive it is, how hard it is to obtain, how the whip is 'useless' now, and so on and so on. The point is, for every happy player there are 3 players that will whine and go spam the Rants board on the official forums.

 

 

 

unfortunately, this is the game. There are always a majority of people whining about certain drawbacks of an update. So how on earth would JaGex shift it's focus from the 8-year olds who won't quit making poop jokes at catherby beach?

 

 

 

What needs to happen is that new updates should be focused on older, more intelligent players. at least 13+. Of course they wouldn't/couldn't enforce this. But how about making us think? any idiot could max out all their skills if they had enough time on our hands. What we need is more community-based and more intelligence-based updates. The first I've seen of these is Barbarian Assault, the greatest minigame in RuneScape. You have to think to win, and even if you do use an off-site minigame guide, there is still no easy way out. BA was the first time 'Scapers have been forced to strategise, and most of us loved it.

 

 

 

The way I see it, RuneScape was originally aimed at ages 13-18. Now, these Classic members are "all grown up", and they want more. People don't just quit after five years of dedication to a runescape account. hell, I couldn't quit after just 2, even after i got banned. So why is JaGex dumbing down the standards to be little-special-kid-from-Tennesee-friendly? The signs are everywhere--the stupid, repetitive puns, the total lack of any graphical value in combat, cute little pictures instead of text...

 

 

 

Hell, if it were my choice, I'd IP ban every little turd with "poop","boob","butt", etc in their name. these are the guys screwing it up for all of us!

 

 

 

...and speaking of screwing up...the sensors. What's the point?? and idiot can misspell a word and bypass the censors. JaGex Is so worried about the terrible "pottymouths" who might offend some little 6 year old. WHAT THE HELL!?!?!? these kids can't even read half of the words in the game!! what is JaGex doing catering to them?! Besides, they don't need us to teach them all of the bad words in the english language! Don't pretend these kids have never heard the "f" word before! I have a 5 year old brother who gets in trouble for saying that at school, and nobody at my house taught him that!

 

 

 

oops...this turned into a rant about the censors. but the two problems are obviously related, and to solve one, they'd have to solve both. will they? of course not. But apparently I have a "pottymouth" as well, because i got banned for it. Isn't it fair to say that the dumbing down of RuneScape and the legions of 6 year olds in the game are partly to blame?

Your right gid they want money, but its not their sole focus. If it was then runescape would be very diffrent. First of all no F2P, Jagex dosen't earn any(or if they do its very small) money from it. We also would see ads on members pages and a much larger advertising campaign to promote runescape.

 

 

 

First: all players have played in F2P who now have P2P, 'cept for a few... And I wouldn't just pay money for a game that I know nothing about... Adds on members "pages" (you mean severs?) wouldn't make much dififference... Think about it. No F2P-no adds there anymore-no big deal-ads on members servers-no big deal... And advertising COST MONEY, as you said earlier... And word travels by mouth even better...

Yes, and the first act would be to remove pest control.

 

They seem to assume all players are either 1. Younger then 8 or 2. 13, and are extremely sensitive to not getting their way and have rich lawyer parents.

Yes, and the first act would be to remove pest control.

 

They seem to assume all players are either 1. Younger then 8 or 2. 13, and are extremely sensitive to not getting their way and have rich lawyer parents.

 

 

 

ok...no idea what this is supposed to mean...getting rid of pc would get rid of 'scapers with rich parents?

 

 

 

And getting rid of pc would be a step in the wrong direction. The noobs who can barely get into pc are unlikely to get enough zeal to profit. those 70-80 find it nearly impossible to find a decent world. 80-90 arent so bad, and 90+ are just trying to get ownage stats. nothing wrong with that. Pc is'nt aimed at lower-level players, or little rich kids. It's really aimed more at high-level players, and the higher your level, the more you benefit from it.