Leet

[mchainmail]

2.1 - English is the only language used on Tip.It Forums

 

 

 

We understand that English is not everyoneÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s native tongue. All we are saying is that if you post something in another language besides English, you must also post an English translation of it. It doesnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t have to be perfect, as long as you try to get it as close as you can.

 

 

 

Should this statement be explicitly expanded into 1337 (leet)? Luckily, tip.it does not have many people with "MAD l337 5k1lLZ" (Mad leet skills). However, as a precaution, I believe that leet should be explicitly stated as another language, therefore falling under this rule.

 

 

 

Very few people use leet, and this is not directed at them. However, on occasion, I see people with one liners like "He's mad because he 'K4'n7 2-H17 u'" (can't 2-hit you). It's mostly a minor inconvienience for the readers as opposed to a serious issue.

[pokemama]

I think the board philosophy is tending away from creating more and more draconian rules and more toward letting people simply express themselves. If you don't want to go through the tortuous effort of translating the 1337speak (I usually don't), just skip the post. If the person wanted to actually *communicate* an idea, they'd be using ordinary english to start with, imho. Every leet post I've ever read boils down to "ooh aren't I leet for using leetspeak", lol.

 

 

 

Thanks for taking an interest, but as far as I know this wouldn't get approved by the forum gods. However, best to wait and see what they post.

[tripsis]

It's kind of hard to draw the line with a rule like that. Some people will report a post that says something like, "Wow! 99 crafting, amazing! Congratz0rz" or something like that, claiming it's against the rules. But it's still readable so it's fine, in my book.

 

 

 

The main point of that rule is that the staff members and regular users have to be able to understand post and threads, so they can be dealt with accordingly (particularly for moderation purposes). If something is completely unreadable, then it is often times seen as spam and dealt with accordingly. That's why I think it's fine to judge these on a case-by-case basis. If you see a post that you simply cannot understand, go ahead and report it so a moderator can deal with it. If the moderator agrees that it's completely unreadable, then perhaps they can send them a kind PM, requesting that they at least make it somewhat understandable.

 

 

 

And I do think that pokemama brings up an excellent point about personal expression. In small, readable increments, I don't have a problem with Leetspeak (it's still annoying to me, but at that point I can at least tolerate it). But if someone makes a new thread and posts something like, "Z0mgz0rz l00k @t z3h n3w35t upd@tz0rz, !t m4k3z m3 z0 m4d dud3" (why would someone say that anyway? it took me like 5 minutes to type LOL), then I think we have a problem, and it's just spam.

 

 

 

I hope that makes sense :oops: I know I kind of rambled on longer than I needed to.. but I get carried away :uhh:

[mchainmail]

okay, your philosophy makes sense. It just kinda got to me when it starts to pile up in some threads. I didn't mean to make it a hard-set rule, moreso a custom (some people do 1-liners in a different language expecially in blogscape). Granted, it isn't a real problem, but it could be one.

[tripsis]

okay, your philosophy makes sense. It just kinda got to me when it starts to pile up in some threads. I didn't mean to make it a hard-set rule, moreso a custom (some people do 1-liners in a different language expecially in blogscape). Granted, it isn't a real problem, but it could be one.

 

 

 

Don't worry about it, I completely agree with you in saying that it can be annoying at times, particularly in large amounts. I didn't think you you meant it as a hard-set rule, but that's how people take it. There are many people who misinterpret our rules, particularly the "No Naming Names" rule. Even if we said, "You're allowed to use LeetSpeak, unless it's completely unreadable," we would still get reports when someone says "l0lz" or "congratz0rz."

 

 

 

But like I said, if you see one that's particularly irksome or unreadable, go ahead and report it. Even if the moderator thinks it's borderline, but suitable, there's no harm done. Better report it and have it considered for removal than do nothing ;)

[InkofDeath]

If you think its bad, report it, if its legible, and isn't overused, like congratz0rz, its probably fine, no need to ban the entire language.

 

 

 

I prefer to call it e-slang, since another language is a bit extreme...

 

 

 

A worthy post will get your attention as pokemam said, if you can't read it, just ignore it, since its probably not worth your time.

 

 

 

I've seen only 2 posts in my entire forum campaign, and they were extremely bad. I only see the average word, or occasionally the sentence, which basically is 'leet speek is cool'.

[meol]

It'd be something very delicate, in my opinion. Sometimes l337 posts are only written to mock on the people that write like that, and sometimes posts that supposedly are written in English are the ones which I can't understand.

[mrmyk]

Yeah, if all "leet" posts are done in good spirits then there is no problems :) Tip.it generally has a very good standard of English compared to other forums, *cough* RSOF *cough*.

[QueenValerie]

I usually am a little lenient on Leetspeak if I can understand it then I let the post remain if it is completely unreadable

 

I usually remove it and send the poster a kind P.M. explaining the reason to why there post was removed.

 

 

 

I do not think we need a set rule about Leetspeak mods usually judge the post on a case- by- case basis. If you feel the

 

post is just unreadable then please report them. :)