fruit trees wtf?

[time2quit]

Okay my apple trees (first trees ever grown by me, 38 farming how shamefull! :oops: ) are takein a ridiculious amount of time to grow.

 

 

 

So far its taken them 23 1/2 hours, guide says 14.6 hours to do.. What have i dont wrong? left the farmer looking over all but one, none of them are done...

 

 

 

Help please?

[Bashful]

it can take longer than usual.. just wait. it'll be done soon.

[Wlbob]

What you do wrong is logging out to much :D the 14.6 hours is if you dont logg out and in.

 

It works like this, the tree grows in differend stages ever stage costs like 4hour ( don't know time for tree's but for alloment its 10mins and herb 20min) if you logg out trigger till next stage resets, so for instance your herbs are in stage 2 and to get to stage 3 they'll need 20mins.

 

If you logg out 19min afther you got stage 2 the trigger will reset and you'll have to wait 20 mins again to get to stage 3.

[davidium]

thats not true...the trees grow regardless of whether you are logged in or not. ive planted trees and fruit trees countless of times just before logging out and the next day when i come in they are done already once i log in and i can start harvesting.

 

 

 

yup ive experienced something like that before...i found out that if your tree gets a disease while growing it will take longer to grow (if you have a farmer looking after the tree it will not die, just take a longer time to grow) so dont worry just wait and come back another day or after doing something else.

[time2quit]

What you do wrong is logging out to much :D the 14.6 hours is if you dont logg out and in.

 

It works like this, the tree grows in differend stages ever stage costs like 4hour ( don't know time for tree's but for alloment its 10mins and herb 20min) if you logg out trigger till next stage resets, so for instance your herbs are in stage 2 and to get to stage 3 they'll need 20mins.

 

If you logg out 19min afther you got stage 2 the trigger will reset and you'll have to wait 20 mins again to get to stage 3.

 

 

 

Nuts!, that does make a lot of sense actually, as i was world hopping a lot making trades etc, could take a while then...

[Wlbob]

thats not true...the trees grow regardless of whether you are logged in or not. ive planted trees and fruit trees countless of times just before logging out and the next day when i come in they are done already once i log in and i can start harvesting.

 

 

 

yup ive experienced something like that before...i found out that if your tree gets a disease while growing it will take longer to grow (if you have a farmer looking after the tree it will not die, just take a longer time to grow) so dont worry just wait and come back another day or after doing something else.

 

 

 

tree they do grow but the trigger is reset if you logg out. so if you 1min to next stage and you logg out then they have to grow 20min to get next stage. I ain't sayign they dont grow while you're logged off

[wioneo]

What you do wrong is logging out to much :D the 14.6 hours is if you dont logg out and in.

 

It works like this, the tree grows in differend stages ever stage costs like 4hour ( don't know time for tree's but for alloment its 10mins and herb 20min) if you logg out trigger till next stage resets, so for instance your herbs are in stage 2 and to get to stage 3 they'll need 20mins.

 

If you logg out 19min afther you got stage 2 the trigger will reset and you'll have to wait 20 mins again to get to stage 3.

 

 

 

This is actually completely wrong. The trees(and everything else) grow in stages. The stages depend on the GLOBAL runescape clock which clicks every 5 minutes at the same time for EVERYONE. Plants don't advance their stage while they are diseased, and tree stages are extremely long, so missing a change would have a much more apparent effect. I believe that plants do get diseased whil a farmer is caring for them, but the farmer heals them similar to the way that a person would. I could just be completely wrong, though.

[davidium]

i dont think world hopping affects the growth of the tree.

[cat666]

Here is the best way to farm trees:

 

 

 

• Do a tree run once a day, at a set time is great.
   
  Always pay the gardners to look after your trees.

 

 

 

That way you don't need to hang about waiting aimlessley for them to grow. This method works fine for me and I've never had a tree not be fully grown after 24 hours. As you're paying for them to watched you won't lose anything. I cannot stress how important it is to pay gardeners to look after your trees. Trees are your main source of farming XP.

 

 

 

The following may not help you but this is the route I take on a tree run. I drop all logs (keep yew and mage roots/logs) and keep all fruit.

 

 

 

• Start at Catherby fruit tree (to bank fruit run to bank here or use bank in next location)
   
  Teleport to Lumbridge for tree (good location to re-fill apples/tomatoes for gardener payments if you have done RFD)
   
  Teleport to Falador for tree patch
   
  Run to Taverley for tree patch
   
  Teleport to Varrock for tree patch
   
  Spirit tree to Gnome Village and run to fruit tree patch.
   
  Spirit tree to Gnome Stronghold for fruit patch. (bank your fruit here)
   
  Walk/Run to tree patch at the Stronghold.
   
  Teleport to Arddy and pay to get to Brimhaven for fruit tree.

 

 

 

What I do then is use the charter ship to get back to Catherby, buying pineapples for super compost on route. You're then at a perfect start for your allotment runs.

[samcowcow]

I am 80 farming. done tons of fruit trees.

 

 

 

I can tell you that the guy's theory is wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All you have to do is log in once a day.

 

 

 

14.6 hours is if you are lucky.

 

 

 

i normally plant them in the morning,

 

 

 

and collect them the next morning.

 

 

 

that's what you have to do.

[Wlbob]

The guy's theory is based on a test

 

http://www.seanv.info/2007/farming_timers.html

[Malhavok]

Although I know nothing about the loggin in theory, it does make sense.

 

When I plant trees at night then check the next day, they are fully grown.

 

 

 

When I plant on Saturday mornings, they are usually not fully grown by next Sunday morning. Explanation: Saturdays is my usual item selling/buying day. And I usually world hop alot to make the trades.

[mello757]

I too plant in the morning and harvest the next morning. A few times I have NOT used super compost by mistake and it took the tree forever to grow. If your not using super compost for everything then do so. You get xp for making it and also for using it.

[cat666]

Few more points from the above quotes:

 

 

 

I have never used super compost on trees of any type, just made sure the gardeners were looking after them. They have always been fully grown within 24 hours and I have never lost a tree to disease.

 

 

 

There is a farming clock. My understanding is that each type of plot has a trigger which fires after a set period of time and that advances the growing.

 

 

 

The following data is NOT accurate, I have just used nominal values to demonstrate my point

 

 

 

Allotments trigger every 3 minutes. Therefore every 3 minutes your crops will advance a level. Once the allotment trigger has ran 5 times your crops will be fully grown (15 minutes). The trigger also decides if you crops get diseased or not. The next trigger would make diseased crops die.

 

 

 

As the triggers are only 3 minutes apart you can say it takes 15 minutes for an allotment patch to grow very easily.

 

 

 

With trees it's different. The tree triggers are actually something like 4 hours apart. Remeber you have to grow a seedling first. Those triggers would be 3 minutes like the allotments, but once in the ground you have to wait for a trigger for it to grow.

 

 

 

Once planted lets say it's 5 triggers to being fully grown. If the trigger fires a minute after you plant it you only have to wait 5 * 4 hours for it to be grown. I.e 20 hours. However if the trigger doesn't fire until 3hours 59 mins after you plant it then you will have to wait the standard 20 hours plus the 3 hours 59 mins, so almost 24 hours for the tree to grow.

 

 

 

Like I said the above figures are nominal to illustrate my point. It could be 3, 4 or 5 triggers per tree and they could be spaced up to 7 hours apart

 

 

 

Logging out and switching worlds will not affect anything. Try this. Plant seeds in a allotment and wait until the first trigger to advance the growing. Now plant in the other allotment and switch worlds. They will not be grown.

 

 

 

It is possible to time the triggers, but remember once planted the seeds wont grow until a trigger. Therefore you cannot guarantee when a crop will be ready 100%, you will just have a period of time when it will be.