dynastyfan0 Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 ok i crunched some numbers. calculating the rise and drops in santa prices and what i paid ect, i lost 200k buying the blue mask back, then selling and buying a santa...but!!! I expect a jump at xmas, because apparently that is the only holiday item that is consistently effected because of the holidays (probably by the very rich). So I expect my 200k loss to turn into a 2m+ profit. In my goal of pcing for 80/50/80 (att/str/def) using all my pc points on HITS, I have alot of training to do, and not alot of money to spend. I have 3.8m cash, fury, warrior, obby cape and a santa. By the time i need to buy more than the 3.8m i have, it will be past xmas, and the hat will be gone. Thanks everyone 2181st to 99 Runecrafting on 7/28/2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 rares price will always rise, i remember when blue phats were 100m. The holiday based ones fluctuate during the year, and peak during the holiday..ex. santa during christmas, they always do. nice profit..i think you shouldve kept your santa though, cuz christmas is coming up! your questions confused me, so im not going to try to answer them lol \ good luck This theory is OF COURSE proved by the fact that year on year for about 2 or 3 yrs now the peak of rare prices has DROPPED what :|Every nub merchant thinks they'll rise, so they all buy them and then sell at the same time :lol: Rares work on three levels: Daily - they rise and fall a few mil Weekly/Monthly - they largely drop in the 6 months after thier holiday and rise the 6 months before (eg mask nov - apr = drop may - oct = rise) Yearly - its hard to predict but in past years they have dropped (eg highest and lowest price they hit within the year are LOWER than previous) As it stands todate the rares market is slowly begining to die as new players have no interest in them Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynastyfan0 Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 I sure hope that rares won't die, which I serously doubt they ever will. They are rare, which means they are always going to be expensive. Also, they have a glory about them, if your rich, you got to have some rares. Also, the more money that spills into the game, the more they will go up (I think). Anyway, I doubt santas will drop to a few mill each and phats go down to like 20m or something, just won't happen 2181st to 99 Runecrafting on 7/28/2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123Yourgone Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 rares price will always rise, i remember when blue phats were 100m. The holiday based ones fluctuate during the year, and peak during the holiday..ex. santa during christmas, they always do. nice profit..i think you shouldve kept your santa though, cuz christmas is coming up! your questions confused me, so im not going to try to answer them lol \ good luck This theory is OF COURSE proved by the fact that year on year for about 2 or 3 yrs now the peak of rare prices has DROPPED what :|Every nub merchant thinks they'll rise, so they all buy them and then sell at the same time :lol: Rares work on three levels: Daily - they rise and fall a few mil Weekly/Monthly - they largely drop in the 6 months after thier holiday and rise the 6 months before (eg mask nov - apr = drop may - oct = rise) Yearly - its hard to predict but in past years they have dropped (eg highest and lowest price they hit within the year are LOWER than previous) As it stands todate the rares market is slowly begining to die as new players have no interest in themParty hats are actually at a high point right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oropher Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Do you think it is a good idea to buy one? If you're going to hold onto it for a long time, then yes. If you're hoping for quick money, it's not too great, unless you're merchanting. Does this usually happen? Yes it's happened before. People try to predict how prices will be before, during and after Halloween and all these predictions affect how it turns out because everyone sells or keeps onto, etc. What do you think they will rise to? Hard to say. I don't see any major price changes unless new rares are introduced or something drastic happens to the economy. They probably will return to normal price after a week or two. +1 :P In the end, rares are a good investment,and I did expect them to drop at Halloween, but they will go up soon. Retired High Leader of the Great TitansDK: Dragon axe x55, Zerker x40, Warrior x44GWD: Bandos hilt x2,Bandos plate x8,Bandos tassets x3, Bandos boots x 2, Armadyl helm x2, Armadyl hilt x1, Saradomin sword x3Dragon drops: d chain x3, d left half x3, d legs x4, d skirt x2, d claws x6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynastyfan0 Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 no one is discussing any of my comments. I sold the blue mask, bought a santa. I won't need cash till after xmas anyway, so ill sell on xmas eve. the initial 200k i lost is far better than the potental 2.5m i could have. eventually ill make a good 2m + on the santa. all is well. thanks. 2181st to 99 Runecrafting on 7/28/2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epeeflecher Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Rares are beautiful, almost as beautiful as tinderboxes. But i would sell the blue mask and buy a santa. Santas = X Beautiful... Yes, rares are good if you want to keep it. Not good for like buying it and selling it the next week because they could drop 3M in that one week. I'm doubting rares will soar up one day without going back down the next week because of people selling them to make a huge profit. So if you want to be a collecter keep it or trade it for a santa. If you want to be a guy with dem Gp's or spend it on skills sell your blue mask or santa. Your other questions have me stuck :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123Yourgone Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I'm doubting rares will soar up one day without going back down the next week because of people selling them to make a huge profit. The day rs2 came out a blue party hat was 6m cash. In early 2005 a blue hat was 36m. late 2005 blue hat was 150m.. Today a blue party hat is 560m cash, seems like it has risen and not dropped quite a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke_Freedom Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 As it stands todate the rares market is slowly begining to die as new players have no interest in themParty hats are actually at a high point right now. Yup. Masks and santas are not by the way. The value of my bank at its height. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 250 billion+.Most likely the largest trade in RuneScape ever. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 70 billion+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oropher Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 As it stands todate the rares market is slowly begining to die as new players have no interest in them I must disagree with you. Ask ANY new player which item they would want the most in rs, and I'm sure about 9/10 of them will say a rare. Furthermore, it's becoming easier and easier to make money in rs, so more people will be able to afford a rare. Retired High Leader of the Great TitansDK: Dragon axe x55, Zerker x40, Warrior x44GWD: Bandos hilt x2,Bandos plate x8,Bandos tassets x3, Bandos boots x 2, Armadyl helm x2, Armadyl hilt x1, Saradomin sword x3Dragon drops: d chain x3, d left half x3, d legs x4, d skirt x2, d claws x6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hephaestos8 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 with the grand exchange update coming out later this month, rares will be easier to buy and sell so the price will probably go down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epeeflecher Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 with the grand exchange update coming out later this month, rares will be easier to buy and sell so the price will probably go down Well there already pretty easy to sell now. I'm thinking that just because people can sell there rare really fast they will try to sell them. Then boom down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 As it stands todate the rares market is slowly begining to die as new players have no interest in them I must disagree with you. Ask ANY new player which item they would want the most in rs, and I'm sure about 9/10 of them will say a rare. Furthermore, it's becoming easier and easier to make money in rs, so more people will be able to afford a rare. I tried it many times 9/10 new players have no idea what a rare is or think they look noobish. also easier to make money = kill the market. As easier people get money the faster rares are bought from the merchant system by players who want to always keep them, thus totally removing them from circulation. Besides it still satnds that the year on year figures show a steady fall in all rare prices, asiode from phats whihc are more or less staying level Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viral_wulf Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 For what it is worth, here is my little log of santa prices over time (with comments): 06/15/06 : 11.1 mil (prices dipped due to addition of construction skill) 08/15/06 : 20.0 mil 08/24/06 : 22.5 mil 08/28/06 : 25.6 mil (santas skyrocket on news of cursed_you ban) 08/30/06 : 26 mil (it'll be interesting to see if we see a slight dip as the cursed_you news gets old) 08/31/06 : 25 mil (suprise, suprise) 09/05/06 : 25.75 mil 09/07/06 : 25.5 mil 09/12/06 : 25.4 mil 09/15/06 : 25.4 mil 09/20/06 : 25.25 mil 09/22/06 : 25.5 mil 09/26/06 : 30 mil! (what happened?!?) 10/02/06 : 27.5 mil 10/12/06 : 25.8 mil (I'm guessing they will start going back up shortly) 10/23/06 : 26.3 mil (I guess I was wrong.. :)) 11/13/06 : 22 mil (I thought rares would take a hit when the lvl 99 capes came out. It didn't happen immediately, but I'd guess this is the delayed reaction to the release) After a long layoff, I've decided to start updating this section again. Over the past several months, I've seen santas peak at 25 mil. When the new shop update came into play, santas took a bit of a hit resulting in current prices of: 10/11/07 : 22.8 mil For a long time, it has been said that rares are the only item certain to rise in price over time, but I'm not so sure that is true. It seems to me that Jagex is making a concerted effort to curb this by constantly introducing things into the game that drain money from players' pockets. 11/05/07 : 23.3 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgfuyfyuiuy0 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Well, all I know it that these price drops and risings over the last 6 months makes me nervous and want to sell, but I won't. I have a blue and a red (Bought at 29m and 40m) and now they're like 27.5m and 37m? Makes me want to cry :( I <3 Gears of War 2. Add me on Xbox Live and mention you are from Tif :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynastyfan0 Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 But i would sell the blue mask and buy a santa. Santas = X Beautiful... I did :XD: For what it is worth, here is my little log of santa prices over time (with comments): 06/15/06 : 11.1 mil (prices dipped due to addition of construction skill) 08/15/06 : 20.0 mil 08/24/06 : 22.5 mil 08/28/06 : 25.6 mil (santas skyrocket on news of cursed_you ban) 08/30/06 : 26 mil (it'll be interesting to see if we see a slight dip as the cursed_you news gets old) 08/31/06 : 25 mil (suprise, suprise) 09/05/06 : 25.75 mil 09/07/06 : 25.5 mil 09/12/06 : 25.4 mil 09/15/06 : 25.4 mil 09/20/06 : 25.25 mil 09/22/06 : 25.5 mil 09/26/06 : 30 mil! (what happened?!?) 10/02/06 : 27.5 mil 10/12/06 : 25.8 mil (I'm guessing they will start going back up shortly) 10/23/06 : 26.3 mil (I guess I was wrong.. :)) 11/13/06 : 22 mil (I thought rares would take a hit when the lvl 99 capes came out. It didn't happen immediately, but I'd guess this is the delayed reaction to the release) according to your numbers, I bought at a low point, and 25+ is the average. I gess that was a good move by me 2181st to 99 Runecrafting on 7/28/2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker202 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 With the grand exchange coming very soon, and with the price drop of these masks, i have been buying them up. When the exchange comes out, people will know how many of these actually exist in the game. Prices will sky rocket, and I will cash in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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