I was discussing the downloading of music today with my friend and we both came to an agreement that it was wrong. However, I started thinking and made the generalization that some people download music because they don't want to buy 1 cd from a certain artist just to listen to 3 songs on the entire cd. So, I came up with an idea... why don't music stores make huge databases filled with all the music in the store and people could choose certain songs by certain artists and fit it all on one cd. Then they could come back depending later on in the day (kinda like getting photos developed) and pick up their new CD. The store could charge a certain price per song etc. Anyway I thought it was a pretty good idea at the time I'll leave it open to discussion. :D

Interesting idea but people can pretty much do that now with iTunes and all those online databases charging for single songs, which most people can just burn to a cd themselves in their own homes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Wolf

I was discussing the downloading of music today with my friend and we both came to an agreement that it was wrong. However, I started thinking and made the generalization that some people download music because they don't want to buy 1 cd from a certain artist just to listen to 3 songs on the entire cd. So, I came up with an idea... why don't music stores make huge databases filled with all the music in the store and people could choose certain songs by certain artists and fit it all on one cd. Then they could come back depending later on in the day (kinda like getting photos developed) and pick up their new CD. The store could charge a certain price per song etc. Anyway I thought it was a pretty good idea at the time I'll leave it open to discussion. :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some music stores and websites already allow you to do this. Also like Sadwolf said, with itunes you pay for just the one song and you can burn it onto a cd yourself if you have a cd writer.

It's a good idea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...Which is why it's already happened :P

I don't know any which do that where I live :(

 

 

 

And I don't trust the internet enough to pay for anything online :P

I don't know any which do that where I live :(

 

 

 

And I don't trust the internet enough to pay for anything online :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Safer than over the phone and giving it so some ex jock in the supermarkets.

 

 

 

http://news.google.co.uk/news?q=double% ... rd%20fraud

Yup, Virgin megastores in London allows you to choose any CD in the store and give it a listen before you buy it (or not if it turns out to be crap). Pretty good idea if you ask me.

 

I don't know any which do that where I live :(

 

 

 

And I don't trust the internet enough to pay for anything online :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Safer than over the phone and giving it so some ex jock in the supermarkets.

 

 

 

http://news.google.co.uk/news?q=double% ... rd%20fraud

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cash > *

And how do you get this magical paper money? ;)

 

 

 

From ATM's? :roll:

 

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hamp ... 399175.stm

 

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shro ... 106363.stm

 

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3535473.stm

And how do you get this magical paper money? ;)

 

 

 

From ATM's? :roll:

 

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hamp ... 399175.stm

 

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shro ... 106363.stm

 

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3535473.stm

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if your dumb enough to stick you card into a box that juts out from the atm and you have never seen before, you deserve to have your money stolen.

And how do you get this magical paper money? ;)

 

 

 

From ATM's? :roll:

 

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hamp ... 399175.stm

 

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shro ... 106363.stm

 

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3535473.stm

Nono you fool. That way the government can keep track of you! Every smart person in the world keeps their money in paper notes in a briefcase handcuffed to their wrist :P

 

And how do you get this magical paper money? ;)

 

 

 

From ATM's? :roll:

 

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hamp ... 399175.stm

 

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shro ... 106363.stm

 

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3535473.stm

Nono you fool. That way the government can keep track of you! Every smart person in the world keeps their money in paper notes in a briefcase handcuffed to their wrist :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This past weekend, a friend visiting our house told us that the anti-counterfeiting strip put in newly printed ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã20 notes can be used to determine how much cash you are carrying. She said that the ever-present "they" at the airport have a machine that can determine how much cash you have on your person or in your luggage, and if you are carrying a sufficiently large amount of cash, you will be detained by the police and interrogated until you confess your guilt as a drug smuggler.

The real problem behind the illegal downloading is that music is to expensive. If i as a student get 100 usd a month from the government and nothing from my parents, and a cd costs 20.. how the hell am I gonna be able to afford to live AND buy a cd?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Before you say anything, I DO have a job. I can't work full time while studying tho and therefore i dont have a lot of money;) And they wonder why young people steal the most music trough internet.. bah.

whilst digital downloads are useful, they allow any old crap to be released onto the music market and nothing will be a collectors item any more. A few months back I paid ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã12 for a 12" Vinyl record when i could easily have just downloaded an mp3, but i wanted it on vinyl instead. What about the collectors? Its a bit hard to collect mp3s...

Well you can pay for newsgroups already, so...

I want an online quality music store. Here there is basically one online store at the moment, and it has a fairly broad selection of songs. In 192kbps DRM-protected WMA. Who on earth wants that junk? If I pay for it I have the right to expect at *least* the same quality is the illegal versions. Does it harm companies that much to release the downloads as FLAC or 320kbps MP3's instead of files you can't even play on an MP3-player? I do not wish to buy an entire CD for every single song I want to listen to, and I do not want low-quality junk. Is the ability to buy songs for decent prices without getting all the lame fillers to much to ask for?

*sigh*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You know I agree that it some ways it is wrong,but I admit I don't think it is wrong to be the listener to get an opinion. Besides when I was younger. Yes im 22 and that may sound a little out of place,but I have to admit it is true. When I was younger we as friends borrowed each others tapes. Then if we liked what we heard we might of made a copy. Even if that was a vhs tape,or not. I never found what we did wrong then,but as I said I was young. Though I look at it now and I think we did do that and it was ok. We didn't have the scared thought of worry that maybe the RIAA would be at door step for downloading illegal music. It was just mutual friendship sharing. In the end the band would still make their living unless they where lazy,or didn't manage to make it out their like other bands. Concert venues I think are a great way to make money and merchandise. I understand the music is what drives these purchases,but considering that if your fans can get the music for free,but pay 25 for the tshirt now lets do a little math here. You have oh say 20,000 listeners your cd's are given away for free. But not the merchandise/concerts. So lets just say 10,000 of them bought a shirt at 25 dollars each and the other 10,000 bought the concert for 50 a ticket. Now these are just your North America fans. You also have your 3k Chinese fans from China and they all bought key chains because Key chains are pretty at 5 dollars each :D Grand total 765000 Now lets not forget everyone will get a chunk of this. Now to also see what im saying here is I only estimated at 20k for listeners and another 3k in another country. Seriously these people are not loosing out on money if they use their money wisely and even if not. Though as I said that fear of knowing what your doing seems illegal makes it no fun,but on the other hand like the new Sinch album....well lets just say in my opinion after a first listen it is ok,but that just isn't the same band/singer as once was on the first album. I wouldn't put my money toward the new album at all.

 

 

 

Where a main problem lies I think and would feel is with most coming bands who are not hurt by downloaders,but by the fact that to get yourself out and known isn't easy and to get that right keyword. At least I'll call it that. Maybe you could call it a moment,but like using google if you use the right keyword even after 50 trys before you get that one keyword you want get no where with your search same goes with some of these underground bands. I know a few who still struggle and have been around for years,but also sometimes management/record labels screw you. Now in the real world of downloading music alot of what is being downloaded is new released albums,or old albums of the past for hardcore music listeners and for some it is just those certain made to hear for radio jams. Then you have those who well just want the music to put on their server to piss off the RIAA. Sorry for the long time,but thank you to everyone who has put the effort into reading it. I understand that all my information is based off of what I have thought up while wrting this. I have never been in a band and don't really know this,but the factor is there just try to add up a few numbers get a grand total of how many people/how much per ticket to a venue at a certain concert and you will see,but thats only the ticket cost. Just think of the merchandise,etc