walleyeguy7 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 i understand most people that currently read tip.it are skillers or pure-haters. i sympathize though, overall the pure community is much less mature. regardless i prefer it to the defense clan community these days...mainly because of the incredible forum community of 'mayhem makers' pures currently are the underdogs in the pking world, 45 defense pkers, tanks, and 70 def meleers are far superior in edge, drags, and portals alike once you get past 70 combat. as such, 20 defense pkers, whip pures, and pretty much any pure over 44 prayer is at a disadvantage simply because of their higher combat, and the most successful 1v1 p2p pures have 1 defense, barrage, 1-31-or-44 prayer, and are either range based or have 60 attack. blood_anthem-wannabe 50 attack pures are also inefficient in todays pking world. although pest control FINALLY got nerfed, thank god, the pure world is still full of pc pruds and generally less mature people. this makes the overall community pretty lame in comparison to high level clans however, once you meet the right people and get involved with the right pure clan, most people with testify that they would rather (and often do) quit rs then go back to any defense clan, go clanless, or anything besides exist in their current pure community. at least 75% of pures who get kicked or become unpure in any way make a new pure or quit runescape entirely. although pure wars are generally lame, daily p2p and f2p, drags and portals, small group and large group pk trips in the pure community are the driving force and arguably the most fun you could ever have in rs, ever. quick, cost efficient, and suprisingly skill based run ins free of returning, teleing, and brews (etc.etc.) make the pure clan pking experience, p2p or f2p, an awesome experience. these run ins, often up to 250 opts on either side, are filled with skilled barragers, master rangers, and more 99 strength pures then you can count without using your fingers. this is why the pure world is worth discussing, here are a few examples of truly great pure clans: mm/mayhem makers: p2p based - the oldest pure clan, going on 4 years. founded by i_mahatma_i and dabestpk (who is long gone) and made up of -by far- the most legendary and smart pkers of their time, past and present. boasts the highest magic, range, strength, attack, and hp averages (etc) of all pure clans and has by far the most active and large forum community, surpassing even di's (and tip.its). undefeated in wars for almost 3 years until recently, but still at the top of their game overall. mm has the best solo pkers, p2p and f2p, and imo is the strongest p2p pure force out there. represented by pink foe/final ownage elite: p2p based - the second oldest pure clan, over 2 years old. founded by ilx_ace_ilx and bonesaw_pk, and currently easily tied with mm as the strongest p2p clan, pertaining to wars, large and small scale pk run ins, and individual pkers. boasts the second highest stat averages and pulls better opts often the mm or anyone else for that matter, and particularly good at f2p warring. represented by white hats and blue capes tlp/the last pures: the only other p2p based pure clan - the 3rd oldest clan tied with fi, founded by hiei_the_pk and that noob finnald who no one likes. they hit a bit of a rough patch a while ago but were certainly never weak even during this time, and they are now recovering big time. arguably full of better individual p2p pkers then foe, they present very impressive stat averages and do beat both mm and foe in p2p fairly regularly. represented by blue fi/fatality: f2p based - about the same age as tlp, 1 1/2 years or so. for a year now unarguably the strongest f2p pure force, undefeated in any f2p war or run in for almost a year now (getting close). founded by 3_hit_u_pure and beezlebub_pk. great clan overall filled with excellent f2p pkers. represented by green eop/eruption of pures: f2p based - a semi-newer clan, definitely top 3 in f2p. recently lost a war big time to fi and lost many members in the process, sadly. they win most of their f2p run ins by pulling ridiculous opts, but its no substitute for their experience and fierceness. represented by red other decent clans: -th/the hatred -cp/corrupt pures -aao/against all odds -ep/epidemic -up/untamed pures -ir/intense redemption -t/trilogy and several others here are my current personal rankings, which are accurate and reflect the majority of intelligent unbiased people in the community P2P: 1. MM/FOE 2. " 3. TLP -gap- 4. FI 5. no one else p2p pks F2P: 1. FI -gap- 2. MM 3. EOP -gap- 4. FOE/TH 5. " Overall: Judged by... -history and longevity -community quality and activity -leadership -individual pkers -stat averages -reqs -how hard it is to get in -how many 1 def compared to 20+ 1. MM 2. FOE 3. FI 4. TLP 5. EOP 6. CP 7. TH _______________________ hope this post helped inform you about the pure world past and present. here are some links if you want to become active in the community or just look up clan histories: MM http://z11.invisionfree.com/Mayhem_Makers/index.php? TLP http://z11.invisionfree.com/Tlp_Rs/index.php? FOE http://z11.invisionfree.com/Final_Ownage/index.php? FI http://z7.invisionfree.com/FatalityClan/ Made by Triza 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbzruler72 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I've definitely heard of MM & many of the other clans you listed, but I don't keep up with pure clans :| We ran into Fatality once & lost. Pure clans aren't that much of a disadvantage until they, like you said, hit around 70 combat. Once clans get to that combat average, it's best to keep 200+ ops on all PK Trips. *-P.K.M-* Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufoman Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 A good read, untill now I was largely ignorent of the pure clan world. Oh and opts have changed now with the introduction of the assist system, so you might want to take that into consideration. Clan Moderator from December 15th 2006- August 20th 2007Founder of: Terran Gamers, formerly known as Militos Deci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbzruler72 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Oh and opts have changed now with the introduction of the assist system, so you might want to take that into consideration.At first I had no idea what you meant. If you turn Assist off, you'll get back to the original ops. *-P.K.M-* Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walleyeguy7 Posted November 14, 2007 Author Share Posted November 14, 2007 I've definitely heard of MM & many of the other clans you listed, but I don't keep up with pure clans :| We ran into Fatality once & lost. Pure clans aren't that much of a disadvantage until they, like you said, hit around 70 combat. Once clans get to that combat average, it's best to keep 200+ ops on all PK Trips. when pking with a clan or small group in higher wildy stats dont matter very much at all actually...the higher the better. however, it affects you immensely as individual pure pker in low wild. for example, if youre an 85 combat pure with 83 99 1 and 52 prayer pking edgeville, youre going to be at a disadvantage verses almost any 45 def pker, 70 def meleer, or tank you meet. it gets progressively worse the higher combat you get, especially if you get 20 defense or smite. honestly pures are pretty much obsolete...by far the strongest tool a pure has is barrage, and in todays overly-nh low wild its sometimes impossible to abuse properly. even at 65 combat, you often get 1 kill to 5 deaths if youre good. the nice part of that is you usually still end up profiting, due to top of the line pure gear being little to no cost. if you die a few times and lose lose 30 barrages and a dds each time, and then get a whip or barrows kill (or even a rune kill tbh) youre in the money. pures are still really strong in f2p, though Made by Triza 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbzruler72 Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 I've never P2P PKed, so I didn't know pures weren't very effective in the P2P wilderness. Must be tough for pure clans; kudos to them for staying in the game. *-P.K.M-* Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walleyeguy7 Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 bump Made by Triza 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elit9 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Sorry to say this but IDK what the point of this post is. People either love pure clans (most likely because they're involved with them) or they hate 'em (everyone else). Your reputations are always going to be tarnished by those groups/teams/clans/whatevers of lvl 40 pures that mass up wearing chefs hats, aprons, etc. and go loot wars. The sad reality is, that's what people think of when they hear "pure clan" since those guys are annoying as hell and are the only direct exposure most people (in main clans) receive to pure clans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W0g_B01 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I think that was an awesome post. Countless "mains" absolutely hate pures and i can understand this as what they see is the bunch of noobs and no-honor guys that hang around edge and hills - because i hate those guys too. It's when you see the honorable and pure clan side of things that your opinion on pures change. I've been in a pure clan called The Fallen for about one and a half years and i classify each and everyone of the people in the clan as a friend. The pure community is terribly hard to describe but i just love it much more than the "main community"... I have no idea why but i do. This name (w0g_B01) was my main back in rsc and back when i made this account on tip it, but for the last 3-4 years, i havent even touched him. I've been involved in pure clans because i just love the community and the thrill of a pure clan war. You guys may think pure clan wars are a bore because they last like 10 minutes max. I like to think of pure clan wars as being a sped up version of main ones. Pure clan wars are all skill and speed. A battle plan is a split second decision in a pure war and thats how we go about it. Organisation is everything. If you don't get the first few kills and are organised during that time, you've lost. The first few seconds can decide the whole match. With main wars, you can sit there for 3 hours and not even take a single bit of damage if you want but i see no fun in that. I stick around pure clans for the awesome community, not only from my own clan but all other out there too. All show respect for one another and thats what honestly counts in my opinion. There aren't really any alliances in the pure world and i like that. Every clan is an individual and stands up for their members and what they believe in (yes this is getting kind of corny sorry :P). I would never leave the pure world for the main one. Even though the wildy is becoming dead and staking is already dead, 80% of pures only stick around for their clan and i think thats what its all about. P.S. Your top 5 pure clan list is kinda wrong but who cares :P -s0nic_s0ul (my pure :P) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walleyeguy7 Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 bump Made by Triza 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_dav135 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Why bump an outdated 8 month old topic? Nothing you mentioned is relevant anymore since the wilderness is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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