You are all RWIT's!

[monkeyboo2]

Well i was thinking about the whole crappy update crisis and RWITs, and came somehow to the conclusion that we all RWIT.

 

Either by paying membership fees to jagex which gives the ability to earn more money.

 

And by spending real world time (time can be sold for money) getting money.

 

 

 

It may seem obvious, but we all RWIT already, and why didn't Jagex go down the Legitimise Official RS gold selling. with the right restrictions, it would have caused less problems than curretn updates i think.

 

 

 

So why didn't Jagex legalise gold selling, but with afew restrictions?

[ktmcf121]

because it goes against the whole principal of the game, and they didn't want to be hypocrites

[nightshade53]

The farmers would just undercut Jagex anyway.

[monkeyboo2]

because it goes against the whole principal of the game, and they didn't want to be hypocrites

 

 

 

Its nice to have principals of game.

 

But to do that you must have a game; thats not the way Jagex is going.

 

 

 

Think for a moment, or research on wikipedia, Star Wars Galaxies; it went just the same way, until it died.

 

 

 

The farmers would just undercut Jagex anyway.

 

Jagex have unlimited supplies, which take no effort to collect. They could always undercut. BUt then once gold companies have gone they can make their prices bigger. This may tempt some gold companies to come back, but Jagex can waste their time by undercutting them again.

 

 

 

Of course some players won't be happy, but its beter than this.

[highlanders]

Members is their way to make money. It's either that or a cash shop, so get used to it.

[D. V. Devnull]

because it goes against the whole principal of the game, and they didn't want to be hypocrites

 

 

 

Its nice to have principals of game.

 

But to do that you must have a game; thats not the way Jagex is going.

 

 

 

Think for a moment, or research on wikipedia, Star Wars Galaxies; it went just the same way, until it died.

 

Well said, both of you.

 

 

 

But as for you, monkeyboo2, we're not all RWT'ers, and that includes P2P. Did you notice at all the restrictions that Jagex put in against P2P-only items so that they can't be used to have an unfair advantage over F2P at all?

 

 

 

~Mr. D. V. Devnull

[Jimmyh7]

Well said, both of you.

 

 

 

But as for you, monkeyboo2, we're not all RWT'ers, and that includes P2P. Did you notice at all the restrictions that Jagex put in against P2P-only items so that they can't be used to have an unfair advantage over F2P at all?

 

 

 

~Mr. D. V. Devnull

 

 

 

Did you notice at all the point of his post?

 

 

 

He's talking about the various ways members can make money much faster than free players, not about items.

[D. V. Devnull]

Well said, both of you.

 

 

 

But as for you, monkeyboo2, we're not all RWT'ers, and that includes P2P. Did you notice at all the restrictions that Jagex put in against P2P-only items so that they can't be used to have an unfair advantage over F2P at all?

 

 

 

~Mr. D. V. Devnull

 

Did you notice at all the point of his post?

 

 

 

He's talking about the various ways members can make money much faster than free players, not about items.

 

Did you notice that monkeyboo2 EDITED their post after I posted mine?

 

 

 

I was replying to what I originally saw, so stuff it. Your rude nature does you no favors, Jimmyh7

 

 

 

~Mr. Devnull

[phata_elise]

I cannot enjoy a game with real life trading. There is no fun or any feeling of achievement when you have to compete with autoers for skilling or gold buyers when you finally got that special piece of equipement.

 

 

 

The game is much better without RWT than with.

 

 

 

I agree, the changes are hard, but perhaps it is for the better. We need to give it some time.

 

 

 

One thing I do know is that legalizing RWT would have really made things worse.

[monkeyboo2]

Well said, both of you.

 

 

 

But as for you, monkeyboo2, we're not all RWT'ers, and that includes P2P. Did you notice at all the restrictions that Jagex put in against P2P-only items so that they can't be used to have an unfair advantage over F2P at all?

 

 

 

~Mr. D. V. Devnull

 

Did you notice at all the point of his post?

 

 

 

He's talking about the various ways members can make money much faster than free players, not about items.

 

Did you notice that monkeyboo2 EDITED their post after I posted mine?

 

 

 

I was replying to what I originally saw, so stuff it. Your rude nature does you no favors, Jimmyh7

 

 

 

~Mr. Devnull

 

 

 

I didn't actually edit any part of the message that you were talking about. I just added the second quote.

[D. V. Devnull]

I cannot enjoy a game with real life trading. There is no fun or any feeling of achievement when you have to compete with autoers for skilling or gold buyers when you finally got that special piece of equipement.

 

 

 

The game is much better without RWT than with.

 

 

 

I agree, the changes are hard, but perhaps it is for the better. We need to give it some time.

 

 

 

One thing I do know is that legalizing RWT would have really made things worse.

 

You're right, any game with RWT in it has no real point, short of trying to do better than the RWT'ers. :wink:

 

 

 

However, I still think Jagex is hurting too many innocent people with this one, and that even with time, Jagex won't correct that error even if it costs them their whole IRL living. No, I don't want RWT back at all, but I do want Jagex to fix their errors in doing deadly updates like this one. -.-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

===Begin Edit===

 

And as for this...

 

I didn't actually edit any part of the message that you were talking about. I just added the second quote.

 

Alright, LOL. :lol: ... I said "edited" however because of the fact that PhpBB calls it such. Sorry for the headache. :?

 

===End Edit===

 

 

 

 

 

~Mr. D. V. Devnull

[darkjab]

It may seem obvious, but we all RWIT already, and why didn't Jagex go down the Legitimise Official RS gold selling. with the right restrictions, it would have caused less problems than curretn updates i think.

 

 

 

So why didn't Jagex legalise gold selling, but with afew restrictions?

 

 

 

edit - this sounded harsh so i removed it, but here's a quote from the developers diary:

 

 

 

 

 

Taking into account how serious this issue is and knowing that reactive methods could never completely stop real-world trading, what are the proactive solutions? Well, considering how much money is involved, one solution would have been to allow real-world trading. Why not just let players sell their RuneScape gold and items and take a small cut of the profits ourselves? "We've seen other MMOGs take that route and it works, but only to a limited extent. Some players would sell gold through their own website to avoid paying the developer a cut. Worse than that, the demand for gold was still mostly being met by players using bots and scams, ruining the experience for legitimate players," says Mod Chris81.

 

 

 

Mod Hobagoly says, "It would be very difficult to find a way of allowing players to buy RuneScape items for real money that doesn't cheapen the game." There might be some way of doing this, and without all the negatives, but it wasn't the right solution for ridding RuneScape of real-world traders and bots.

 

 

 

And another point, it wouldn't be worthwhile for Jagex to implement because of having such an unstable market.

 

 

 

People would start buying money and suddenly people will begin to charge more gp because money is easier to get hold of. Therefore people would spend more of their own real life money in order to get the extra cash to buy items.

 

 

 

Rinse and repeat, Jagex would rake in the cash but then start getting even more rants about how they need to lower the price for buying money/ make more money available.

 

 

 

It would result in a vicious cycle, Jagex would in the end, need to take full control of the economy and once again. More rants.

 

 

 

And besides it goes back to the fact that the black market would be stealing card details and instead of using them for making members to get resources they would start burning away money like it's nothing and possibly bringing victims into bankruptcy