Autoers,bots,merchants,pures and stakers

[therehadtobe1]

Autoers, bots, merchants, stakers and pures.

 

Jagex seems to not like these people and are determined to rid runescape of them, whatever the cost. WeÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ve seen some drastic changes to uproot these ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹ÃâvillainsÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢. The duel arena changes, the grand exchange, bounty hunter and finally no drop trades or unbalanced trades. People are mainly unhappy about the new updates and those who do like the new updates say things like ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹Ãâwell done for getting rid of RWTÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ or ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹Ãâyou did what you had to JagexÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢, but not that many people are actually saying the updates themselves are good.

 

 

 

 

 

Now coming back to the 5 ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹ÃâvillainsÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢, most people will agree that bots and autoers are bad, some people dislike pures but no one seems to dislike or hate merchants and stakers (except Jagex). Stakers merely gamble on their fighting skills to win some money or item, thatÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s not breaking the rules thatÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s just a way of making money. Merchants were quite abundant in numbers (until fairly recently for obvious reasons) and many see them as a good thing, as they keep the RS economy moving and ensure that prices donÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t fall. IÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢m guessing Jagex donÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t like these people because they make lots of money without the need of high level skills and they see it as effectively cheating as they are not working hard to earn the money they make. But merchants are actually clever people, they see a hole in the market and the fill it which keeps the market running and stops prices from crashing (or inflating out of control).

 

 

 

 

 

Pures are people who specialise in an area of combat(s) but they always have 1 defence. They donÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t break the rules, but for theyÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re level they tend to be stronger than a non pure which Jagex probably thinks that pures are too strong and that they make too much money out of staking and pking too easily.

 

 

 

 

 

And finally onto the autoers and bots, Jagex hates their guts for making money out of the game they created. As I have said before many agree that these are bad people and Jagex says they cause lots of damage to RS, but that couldnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t be further from the truth. They get lots of raw materials and put them on the market which skillers or (merchants) buy. The RS money they sell in RWT goes to a player who uses it to buy things so all the money goes back into the economy, so no damage is really done to the economy. The only problem with autoers and bots is that they take up areas which honest players use to harvest their own raw materials, and what they are doing is morally wrong. So merchants, pures and stakers are not villains and there is some good done by autoers and bots. But Jagex has developed tunnel vision; they just want to destroy these players and donÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t care about anything else and I feel that they are trying to hard to rid RS of these players. But the thing is is that if you have all these players in existence then it shows that the economy is wide and diverse with lots of money to be made. If these people donÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t exist it shows that the economy is poor and weak with little money to be made.

 

 

 

 

 

With JagexÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s new updates they havenÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t really thought about the implications and consequences and have rushed out the updates without thinking through properly and this has had huge knock-on effects. People have been saying how runescape is sick and killing the patient to kill the disease is not the answer, but when did this ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹ÃâdiseaseÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ start? The answer is the grand exchange. Upon releasing the grand exchange the economy started to spiral downwards and many prices became messed up and this is the autoers and bots fault. ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹ÃâBut hang onÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ you cry ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹Ãâyou said that bots and autoers arenÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t badÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ and yes I did and that still stands. By releasing the grand exchange it made it easier for autoers and bots, they could collect their produce and stick it on there and then the could go off to continue farming raw materials instead of using the forums or standing in a populated world selling it there. So Jagex effectively stabbed us in the back, not only did they make autoers and bots lives easier they also started to trash our economy. Then after that the just threw some more updates at the problem and even when people were angry about the updates they just say ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹Ãâwe need to do these updates, we know this wonÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t make us Mr. popularÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ and yeah ok I respect that, but they did what only a fool would do ad trash the game for the majority to destroy the minority of ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹ÃâvillainsÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢. This makes no sense as they are supposed to make the game better not worse. Also IÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ve noticed that none of these updates were in the December preview did Jagex want to hide these updates?

 

 

 

 

 

Many of the problems could have been avoided, for example instead of shrinking the wildy, introducing bounty hunter and ruining pking they could of just banned trading in the wildy and put a limit on the amount of coins you can bring into the wildy i.e. 10k. The grand exchange is good but you need to remove the 5% (and 5 and the percentage sign just happen to be on the same keyboard button) thing and add a search option which solves the depression problem and stops autoers and bots ruining the game. They could have also added more low level aggressive npcs in autoer and bot heavy areas. Also whatÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s stupid is how theyÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re undoing their own work, there are worlds for rune running which wonÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t be possible after the unbalanced trade updates and loot share will be ruined. Also a big problem with the 3k drop rule is that if your inventory is full with items and you get a really good drop from a monster you may not be able to drop anything to pick that up as everything in your inventory could be worth more than 3k.

 

 

 

 

 

The point IÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢m trying to make is that Jagex has made out these players as our enemies and that these drastic updates are needed to destroy them but thatÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s not true. Many people are saying RS is dead or dieing and I agree with them, RS is dead (or dieing) as long as Jagex are in a mess making updates that only drag the game down. Jagex thinks they have struck RWT the final blow but really the bots and autoers are laughing in JagexÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s face as they find ways round the new updates and as money becomes more difficult to make its likely that more people will turn to RWT for cash, making the black market oh so biggerÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâæÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâæÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâæ

[therehadtobe1]

I'd like to say i am not an autoer, bot staker merchant or pure

 

and it would be nice to know what people think of my article.

[icecube]

I don't think they hate Merchants nor Pures.

 

 

 

In Mod Mark's sticky he said many things that JaGEx would be doing that could benefit Merchants, though we still can't make as much money as before.

 

 

 

And Pures, I think they just got caught in the crossfire when the Wildy had to be redone.

 

 

 

I think it's more like autoers, RWT's, scammers, drop traders and stakers (possibly).

 

[Just responding to the title, I have yet to read the actual post]

[Dragontotem]

your 'article' is hell of a hard piece to read cos its all nonstop... =/

[vilageidiotx]

I'm pretty sure jagex doesn't hate pures or merchants, they just felt that the loss of merchants and pures was a fair trade for uprooting the Real World Traders. They were sacrificed, not murdered.

[RoswellCrash]

That's an eyesore... & I don't mean the above sig

 

 

 

But they don't hate merchants,pures and stakers they just hate the bots & autoers(which are the same thing really :-w) ..

[therehadtobe1]

yeah i'm gonna edit it a bit

 

 

 

EDIT:not so much of an eyesore now

[InsaneChef]

*flails*

 

 

 

All I can say is that JaGex hate autoers and bots. They do not hate merchants, stakers and pures.

 

 

 

If everyone autoed in the mining guild, they would remove the mining guild. Do JaGeX hate members of the mining guild? No they do not.

[remington]

Bots hurt runescape by bringing in so many raw resources that their prices drop.

 

 

 

That hurts the REAL players that are trying to do the same. When bots drop the prices of these raw materials then real players aren't getting paid a fair rate for their work.

 

 

 

I know there are plenty of players that don't mind this. "To HELL with other players if it means I can get my levels cheaper/faster." Is the usual thought.

 

 

 

Well I'm sorry, but that doesn't cut it. Bots hurt players. Maybe you don't care, but I do, and so does Jagex.

[therehadtobe1]

i didn't say i didn't care

[cotamatias]

Jagex is willing to destroy the game to get these people, which I cannot support. Which is why I have stopped playing the game, JaGeX has ruined itself and I am extremely disappointed about it.

[remington]

Not in so many words, no.

 

 

 

But stating "So no damage was really done" is a tacit approval of that attitude.

 

 

 

By claiming that no damage was really done ignores the plight of those players that tries to compete with the bots without cheating. And is the same as saying. "I don't care about them."

[therehadtobe1]

no i'm saying that no damage is done to the economy

 

also i'm only trying to give another side of the argument

[remington]

Jagex is willing to destroy the game to get these people, which I cannot support. Which is why I have stopped playing the game, JaGeX has ruined itself and I am extremely disappointed about it.

 

 

 

I'm sorry to see you go.

 

 

 

I admit I think this update is heavy handed, but seeing as I hated RWT and those that drop traded between accounts I'm willing to give Jagex the benefit of the doubt.

 

 

 

They state they had to get this update out quick, and are now going to work on fixing the problems with it.

 

 

 

I'm fairly certain they can do it.

 

 

 

Do I like giving things away? Yes.

 

 

 

Is removing that a game breaker for me? No.

 

 

 

Is removing a free trade market wrong? Yes.

 

 

 

Is removing it a game breaker for me? No. I made most of my cash skilling. I can still do so. And with the removal of all the bots the prices for MY goods will hopefully go back to a fair price.

 

 

 

PKing? I would like a REAL 1 verse 1 PKer area, seeing as RS2 NEVER had this I can't claim Jagex suddenly removed it.

 

 

 

Edge gone? Good. That was NOT PKing. That was safe dueling and pure hell. PKing should always have been a HIGH level activity. Most MMORPG use PVP as an end game for high levels.

 

 

 

Staking? I would like it to be back. 3K is a little harsh, hopefully Jagex will introduce brackets, so players will 1500+ skill points can stake even more.

[remington]

no i'm saying that no damage is done to the economy

 

also i'm only trying to give another side of the argument

 

 

 

Oh...

 

 

 

So basically taking money from the hands of lower level players (bots reducing prices of raw goods), then SELLING this money to other players that didn't EARN that money didn't hurt the economy?

 

 

 

It did.

 

 

 

It lowered the buying power of the gold piece. It made it easier to level, and to get to HIGHER skills that could make money faster and thus lower the value of the gold piece even more.

 

 

 

It made it more difficult for new players to thrive in the game unless they themselves resulted to cheating.

 

 

 

And there IS no other side to this argument. They were breaking the rules. They deserved this.

 

 

 

I wish Jagex could have left the game as it was, but RWT would not get the hint. So they had to do this harsh update.

[therehadtobe1]

I find that RWT has very little impact on RS as a whole

 

but i still want bots and autoers to be blasted off the face of RS but I dont believe these new updates are nessecary

[Dragontotem]

ahh, thanks for editing it a bit :)

 

makes it much more fancier to read ^^

[Sledge]

Yeah it's too bad merching and pures are dead...

 

 

 

Pures are at the top of the bounty hunter high-score list and I, with no previous merching experience has merched over 7 million profit at the G.E in the past 3 days, averaging 10 minutes a day of work...

 

 

 

R.I.P. Pures and merching...

 

 

 

:boohoo: