The "Heroic American" thing is cinema.

[Futurama]

Most of my close friends are cadets and joining the RAF regiment when they're old enough - it wasn't until they started pointing this out that I began to realise it.

 

In the large majority of war films, and films generally involving the American army and the British, I for one, am sick of seeing heroic American soldiers saving the "helpless" British. This has happened countless times in american cinema, just two examples that i've watched in the last week being 28 Weeks Later and Saving Private Ryan.

 

 

 

I want to know why this keeps happening. The British army are NOT complete flanges that couldn't beat their way out of a paper bag like they seem to be portrayed so often in cinema these days.

 

 

 

anyone else noticed it? :/

[Guest]

most movies have something about American heroism in it, I think they have an urge to show they are really nice or something. Just so that the effects of what they really do to the world will be less perhaps??

 

 

 

But yeh, I noticed that as well, and I don't like it as well. My country was saved by Canada not by America

[Lenin64]

Oh sorry. I think we meant Canadian troops.

[Deiophobus]

Blame hollywood, don't blame American people. I see a lot of stuff being done by corporations/government here, and then the rest of the world insulting and hating American citizens, who are as much anti those things as you.

[Guest]

To make one thing clear: When I speak of "Americans" i speak of your government... but wasn't your government chosen by a majority of the people in that country, and thus don't they support their actions?

 

 

 

Most of the movies coming from Hollywood have some propagandistic things in them about America, most anti-American government stuff does not even reach the American people. Though the vast majority of Europe has seen them.

 

 

 

I know i can't take it for granted that you where either a person supporting bush realm of terror, ll you can know is I disagree with his actions. I also disagree with the government in my country. We have had some political thoughts here that i do not comply with.

 

 

 

Just plainly the vast majority of people in my country is out of their mind because of hate against people from other country's. If you as an American want to show the world you don't like the things that they are doing, then where are the protests?

 

 

 

I remember from my history classes that the American people used to revolt back in the 70's versus the Vietnam war and the Korean war. Why the heck not now? Why is the song: "dear mr. president - Pink" banned from American radio? Why do I hear many Americans so full of themselves that they are in fact better than other people in such a way that it makes me sick?

 

 

 

Don't get me wrong, but I think that if your government does something stupid / wrong the entire country can be held responsible for it. Look back in history at the first and second world war. Both started by German influences. Most people make a generalization out of the Germans by saying something like that all of them are bad people and such, even a long time after those wars. Now I ask you: why shouldn't we think otherwise with the Americans?

 

 

 

It's the ideology of people thinking they are better than others because of some differences that brings danger into the world.

 

Now if you look at any Hollywood movie: most information about it is wrong. They even sometimes turn around historical information and then present it as to be true. Mostly any movie coming from Hollywood has an American hero in it. Why not a Chinese? or a European that saves a bunch of scared Americans?

 

 

 

And as a final I would like to close my stupid post with the idea that if you don't agree with the government there are always things you can change it with. Voting for example! Or maybe if you are not legally allowed to vote yet, ask your parents on who they voted, and why? You can always try to have a decent conversation with them... Maybe start protesting? One person can not change the world, but you can always try to get more people that believe in your idea's in which way you won;t be 1 person any more, bu a whole heap of persons.

[Nero]

No worries, the American government still thinks Canadians are all lumberjacks.

[Nadril]

To make one thing clear: When I speak of "Americans" i speak of your government... but wasn't your government chosen by a majority of the people in that country, and thus don't they support their actions?

 

 

 

I stopped reading there.

 

 

 

Have you ever heard about something called lying? You see, it's when a person delibertly says one thing about them even though it is not true.

 

 

 

 

 

The first thing is, pretty much half of the states voted for bush -- that does not account all of us responsible. The second thing is, well, do you think that if bush said stuff such as "I am fine with torture" and "I want to make this war as long as possible" that people would still vote for him? no!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Really, most of your post is just falling on the idea that the people in this country all support what bush is doing -- we don't. However we also do not have a means to get him out of the office, and protests won't help. (Back in the 70's, for example: protests certainly did not help there).

[indy500fan]

Most of my close friends are cadets and joining the RAF regiment when they're old enough - it wasn't until they started pointing this out that I began to realise it.

 

In the large majority of war films, and films generally involving the American army and the British, I for one, am sick of seeing heroic American soldiers saving the "helpless" British. This has happened countless times in american cinema, just two examples that i've watched in the last week being 28 Weeks Later and Saving Private Ryan.

 

 

 

I want to know why this keeps happening. The British army are NOT complete flanges that couldn't beat their way out of a paper bag like they seem to be portrayed so often in cinema these days.

 

 

 

anyone else noticed it? :/

 

 

 

To be fair in 28 Weeks Later the British did release a super disease that pretty much destroyed their whole country.

[Harrington]

There are the occassional movies that show American helping Britain out during WW2... that can't be avoided, since that's basically what happened. Besides, the true heros of WW2 were the Russians. They took the most casualties and lost/gained the most territory.

 

 

 

I can think of a few movies where American's are not portrayed as heros bailing out us Brits...

 

 

 

Pearl Harbor - quite clearly demonstrates just how dumb America was about not seeing that one coming.

 

 

 

Saving Private Ryan - I don't remember them saving any British out in that movie?

 

 

 

Enemy At The Gates - an American movie about the Russian plight... no Brits being saved here either

 

 

 

U571 is the only movie I can think of that was an outright lie (although they mentioned this themselves in the credits).

[RebelAssassin]

in 28 weeks later there is no british government, how can a country with no form of leadership repopulate itself? besides id rather it was American's than Europe redeveloping the UK.

[Deiophobus]

Mauranius, your main mistake is assuming bush won the popular vote. He didn't, he won the electoral college vote.

 

 

 

and I see a lot more Europeans talking about how much Americans suck than Americans being arrogant online. If an American were to make ignorant sterotypes about someone from England, they would definetly be called racist.

 

 

 

I see people making up false statistics, saying 70% of Americans are proven stupid, 70% of Americans support bush, the war, etc.

 

 

 

You say you studied 70s history and the protests, well then you should know they did nothing except result in thousands of beatings by police.

 

 

 

It's come to the point where if someone asks me what country I'm from, I'll lie. Otherwise they'll just laugh at say "lol you dumb fat american, england owns you guys".

 

 

 

So who're the ones being arrogant? Who're the ones being judgemental?

[Lenin64]

There are the occassional movies that show American helping Britain out during WW2... that can't be avoided, since that's basically what happened. Besides, the true heros of WW2 were the Russians. They took the most casualties and lost/gained the most territory.

 

And let's not forget that they stormed Berlin, ending the German portion of the war.