Time to Change Essence

[Adam007]

This has probably already been brought up, but let me know if it hasn't. Essence prices are at record highs, making runecrafting much less profitable than it used to be. Running natures used to be a great moneymaker, but it no longer is. Because of the rune essence update created awhile ago to deal with bots and RWT, pure essence is only p2p and costs much more than it should.

 

 

 

Now, since RWT and bots are mostly eliminated, why not bring pure essence back to f2p? This will bring down essence prices and make runecrafting more of a useful moneymaking skill again. Make it so 10% or so of all pure essence mined turns out to be impure essence so we don't have a discontinued item on our hands, and we have fixed much of the problem. As an added bonus, f2p players have a better moneymaking method.

 

 

 

If nobody has heard this suggestion before, I ask and give permission to any member (I unsubscribed a few months ago) to post this on the official forums.

[Nenga]

Jagex made the pure essence update to stop bots, but they also did it to try to convince people to move to p2p. I doubt they will change it back.

[robbyfighter]

I dont think they will change it. Like life_mage12 said : they want people to become p2p

[Zaaps1]

Think about what would happen if they removed pure essence now. The value would drop wouldn't it? Then all the people who have pure ess would lose tons of money.

 

 

 

My point: Pure ess has a grip on the economy. You can't remove it.

[Ultimakomoto]

Now, since RWT and bots are mostly eliminated, why not bring pure essence back to f2p? This will bring down essence prices and make runecrafting more of a useful moneymaking skill again. Make it so 10% or so of all pure essence mined turns out to be impure essence so we don't have a discontinued item on our hands, and we have fixed much of the problem. As an added bonus, f2p players have a better moneymaking method.

 

1:FTP never had pure essence.

 

2:Jagex wants people to become members, this is a pretty good way of doing that.

 

3:There is no 3. Mysterious!

[Adam007]

Now, since RWT and bots are mostly eliminated, why not bring pure essence back to f2p? This will bring down essence prices and make runecrafting more of a useful moneymaking skill again. Make it so 10% or so of all pure essence mined turns out to be impure essence so we don't have a discontinued item on our hands, and we have fixed much of the problem. As an added bonus, f2p players have a better moneymaking method.

 

1:FTP never had pure essence.

 

2:Jagex wants people to become members, this is a pretty good way of doing that.

 

3:There is no 3. Mysterious!

 

1. Regular rune essence was basically pure essence until they split it into two, giving f2p the downgrade.

 

2. Regardless of what makes sense for getting more members, jagex should have a balanced game. There have been many occasions where jagex gave f2p something p2p once had - it's clear they do value balance even when it means they sacrifice a member-enticing feature.

 

3. Touche.

 

 

 

Think about what would happen if they removed pure essence now. The value would drop wouldn't it? Then all the people who have pure ess would lose tons of money.

 

 

 

My point: Pure ess has a grip on the economy. You can't remove it.

 

Pure essence is already overpriced. Either way, it's not like there's that much money to be lost, and as a raw material, if you craft your pure essence, you still get the same value. Jagex could give a 2-week warning any way to prevent a sudden price change too.

[Zaaps1]

 

 

 

Think about what would happen if they removed pure essence now. The value would drop wouldn't it? Then all the people who have pure ess would lose tons of money.

 

 

 

My point: Pure ess has a grip on the economy. You can't remove it.

 

Pure essence is already overpriced. Either way, it's not like there's that much money to be lost, and as a raw material, if you craft your pure essence, you still get the same value. Jagex could give a 2-week warning any way to prevent a sudden price change too.

 

 

 

Overpriced? I feel your pain for that. I've personally given up runecrafting for profit because of pure ess and nature prices nowadays.

 

 

 

But there is considerable money to be lost. Consider: You want to craft 10k nats for whatever reason your little heart desires. So you buy this all in pure ess in one go, as a convience. That costs about 1.5M. Now Jagex decides to give f2p pure essence! What happens to the price of it, now that an extra 5 million or more players can mine it? All I can think of that the GEDB graph for the Black Mask's drop, except for a much longer time. Say it returns to it's former price, 25-30 ea as I remember, that means you just lost 1.2M in coins for paying "extra" on pure essence. Of course, you could sell it to try to save your money, but what are your chances? Remember when Spirit Weed Seeds came out? I know I had to return to the GE every few hours to cancel my offer, then put it back in as the new minimum price. You'll have close to no chance on selling that much ess.

[Adam007]

 

Overpriced? I feel your pain for that. I've personally given up runecrafting for profit because of pure ess and nature prices nowadays.

 

 

I haven't runecrafted in ages so the high prices don't effect me. I just think back to what I used to pay for em, and know something's off.

 

 

 

But there is considerable money to be lost. Consider: You want to craft 10k nats for whatever reason your little heart desires. So you buy this all in pure ess in one go, as a convience. That costs about 1.5M. Now Jagex decides to give f2p pure essence! What happens to the price of it, now that an extra 5 million or more players can mine it? All I can think of that the GEDB graph for the Black Mask's drop, except for a much longer time. Say it returns to it's former price, 25-30 ea as I remember, that means you just lost 1.2M in coins for paying "extra" on pure essence. Of course, you could sell it to try to save your money, but what are your chances? Remember when Spirit Weed Seeds came out? I know I had to return to the GE every few hours to cancel my offer, then put it back in as the new minimum price. You'll have close to no chance on selling that much ess.

 

 

You won't lose any money because you're crafting those essences into nats. You might not make as big a profit, but you're still making a profit.

[meme79]

 

But there is considerable money to be lost. Consider: You want to craft 10k nats for whatever reason your little heart desires. So you buy this all in pure ess in one go, as a convience. That costs about 1.5M. Now Jagex decides to give f2p pure essence! What happens to the price of it, now that an extra 5 million or more players can mine it? All I can think of that the GEDB graph for the Black Mask's drop, except for a much longer time. Say it returns to it's former price, 25-30 ea as I remember, that means you just lost 1.2M in coins for paying "extra" on pure essence. Of course, you could sell it to try to save your money, but what are your chances? Remember when Spirit Weed Seeds came out? I know I had to return to the GE every few hours to cancel my offer, then put it back in as the new minimum price. You'll have close to no chance on selling that much ess.

 

 

You won't lose any money because you're crafting those essences into nats. You might not make as big a profit, but you're still making a profit.

 

 

 

but it takes alot of time...i have seen people (investors) who have 200k+ pess in there bank, they INVEST, there not just goina go and rc them all...

[Zaaps1]

 

Overpriced? I feel your pain for that. I've personally given up runecrafting for profit because of pure ess and nature prices nowadays.

 

 

I haven't runecrafted in ages so the high prices don't effect me. I just think back to what I used to pay for em, and know something's off.

 

 

 

But there is considerable money to be lost. Consider: You want to craft 10k nats for whatever reason your little heart desires. So you buy this all in pure ess in one go, as a convience. That costs about 1.5M. Now Jagex decides to give f2p pure essence! What happens to the price of it, now that an extra 5 million or more players can mine it? All I can think of that the GEDB graph for the Black Mask's drop, except for a much longer time. Say it returns to it's former price, 25-30 ea as I remember, that means you just lost 1.2M in coins for paying "extra" on pure essence. Of course, you could sell it to try to save your money, but what are your chances? Remember when Spirit Weed Seeds came out? I know I had to return to the GE every few hours to cancel my offer, then put it back in as the new minimum price. You'll have close to no chance on selling that much ess.

 

 

You won't lose any money because you're crafting those essences into nats. You might not make as big a profit, but you're still making a profit.

 

 

 

As stated above, that takes time. Time you were going to spend anyway. At first glance it won't seem like you're losing money, but you do.

 

 

 

Lower pure ess prices (+easier buys) = more nature crafters

 

more nature runes = lower price

 

 

 

Who knows? Maybe natures will go BELOW 150 each, then you'll LOSE money! Pure ess is too big to remove now. Perhaps if there were high restrictions on it in f2p, but I can't think of simply giving it to f2p, too much trouble.

[Toad]

its time to change back essence i agree. :thumbsup:

[Ultimakomoto]

Now, since RWT and bots are mostly eliminated, why not bring pure essence back to f2p? This will bring down essence prices and make runecrafting more of a useful moneymaking skill again. Make it so 10% or so of all pure essence mined turns out to be impure essence so we don't have a discontinued item on our hands, and we have fixed much of the problem. As an added bonus, f2p players have a better moneymaking method.

 

1:FTP never had pure essence.

 

2:Jagex wants people to become members, this is a pretty good way of doing that.

 

3:There is no 3. Mysterious!

 

1. Regular rune essence was basically pure essence until they split it into two, giving f2p the downgrade.

 

2. Regardless of what makes sense for getting more members, jagex should have a balanced game. There have been many occasions where jagex gave f2p something p2p once had - it's clear they do value balance even when it means they sacrifice a member-enticing feature.

 

3. Touche.

 

1: It was still Rune essence, it wasn't like FTP could craft natures and laws. :roll:

 

2: Any good bussiness would want more money coming in. However, Jagex, I'm sure of, will either stand firm on the spilt, or re-merge them. I'm betting on the former.

 

3: How do you respond to something that wasn't there? :lol:

[Zierro]

I support. And for those of you saying it attracts more members - think about it. If RCing in members became more profitable, wouldn't that attract more members too?

[highlanders]

Your reasoning is: RC was an outrageous moneymaker in the past, and essence should be fixed so that it may be an outrageous moneymaker again. Thing is, RC is fine right now, it's still an excellent moneymaker. The situation with RC in the past was not balanced, it would crush all other money making methods(except staking/merchanting). Back then, it didn't matter because the situation wasn't like that on purpose, it just happened to be that way. The peple who wanted to profit off it had plently of time to do it. But now you're talking about creating the same unbalanced situation again, but on purpose, and that's what's wrong with it. If jagex decides to make pure ess f2p again, then lucky you, but there's more reasoning to put into it than just "it was like that before, therefore it should be like that now too". And take note that even if that's done - chances are the prices of runes will drop and adjust to the new prices of the essence as there is not even nearly the same demand for runes there was in the past.

[Ts_Stormrage]

Jagex isnt the least bit interested in fixing the economy, that obviously doesnt need fixing...

 

 

 

I think the giant point over this ebtire thing is:

 

People want to train RC while making money by turning essence into nature runes...

 

Right now the Pure Essence is at another record high (Oil anyone?) while Nature Runes have not yet, or not much, increased in price...

 

This leaves Runecrafting as an unprofitable way to level...

 

 

 

But did anyone ever thought of mining pure essence and selling it?

 

 

 

Bottomline of that is that you dont get RC xp but a bit of Mining xp, and Mining isnt as profitable on higher levels (91+) as RC is...

 

 

 

In the end it is the price of the Nature rune that really should determine that the price of Pure Essence is in need of "fixing"

[bbjoe282]

just so players wouldent loose alot of money quickly if they were to make just one type of ess again they could raise to exp given to encourage ppl to mine it.

[Dracion1]

I agree that it should really be changed back, but it's extremely unlikely now. I could easily see them making other changes to rc or adding another part on to the skill though.