michel555555 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 several options all depend on which monster your killing rune def for weaker monsters that u want to kill faster like cave crawlers obby shield if ur doing tougher higher hitting monsters like gargoyles, because obby shield gives a def boost as well as giveing same str boost as rune def zamy or sara book if u get monsters that have a magic and melee based att like pyre fiends and bloodvelds i wouldn't use d sq because it doesn't give as much att and str boost as defender or obby For everything you mentioned, the rune defender is best. Seriously. The attack bonuses are so worth it. not really with def u do hit more but u take more damage the only actual dif between obby and def is that obby gives def instead of att boost [spoiler=click you know you wanna]Me behave? Seriously? As a child I saw Tarzan almost naked, Cinderella arrived home from a party after midnight, Pinocchio told lies, Aladin was a thief, Batman drove over 200 miles an hour, Snow White lived in a house with seven men, Popeye smoked a pipe and had tattoos, Pac man ran around to digital music while eating pills that enhanced his performance, and Shaggy and Scooby were mystery solving hippies who always had the munchies. The fault is not mine! if you had this childhood and loved it put this in your signature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J35u5_M4 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 I'd get a rune defender, honestly you have enough defence with torags, so why not use a rune defender? they give half of defence than a granite/obby, but they give a great attack bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovecardj Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Rune defender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obby shield torags plate/verac skirt gives way more then enough defense, you wont need the measly 20 extra defense or whatever from the obby shield. the attack increase is very noticable and useful Dragon Drops: 80+ boots, 7 med, 3 skirt, 2 left half, 2 Spear, 2 2hSlayer: 30+ whips, 4 Bows, 1 Mask, 3 Granite Legs, 1 Visage (Wyverns)Notable GWD Splits: Bandos Tassets: 12, Bandos Chest: 11, Bandos Hilt: 2Proud Slayer of 99 Att/Str/Def/HP/Range/Summoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 several options all depend on which monster your killing rune def for weaker monsters that u want to kill faster like cave crawlers obby shield if ur doing tougher higher hitting monsters like gargoyles, because obby shield gives a def boost as well as giveing same str boost as rune def zamy or sara book if u get monsters that have a magic and melee based att like pyre fiends and bloodvelds i wouldn't use d sq because it doesn't give as much att and str boost as defender or obby For everything you mentioned, the rune defender is best. Seriously. The attack bonuses are so worth it. not really with def u do hit more but u take more damage the only actual dif between obby and def is that obby gives def instead of att boost Defender is the best shield for melee, PERIOD, unless your using DFS for dragons. Regardless of the monster your fighting - that extra 40 or so defence isn't going to do a whole lot. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 not really with def u do hit more but u take more damage the only actual dif between obby and def is that obby gives def instead of att boost THE ONLY DIF BETWEEN OBBY AND DEF IS OBBY GIVES DEF ISTEAD OF ATT BOOST, K GUYS? To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathdrow Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 if you really wanna know what the best shield in the game is. its a bronze sq. owns all the other shields and makes you hit 5000s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicDuck Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Defender, but maybe buy an Obby Shield for stronger enemies and also general usage against monsters that used ranged (obby shield has good range defense.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomyth105 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 if you really wanna know what the best shield in the game is. its a bronze sq. owns all the other shields and makes you hit 5000s really? i thought it was the wooden shield. seriously though i think that just looking in knowledge base will help u find the answer here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamster Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 several options all depend on which monster your killing rune def for weaker monsters that u want to kill faster like cave crawlers obby shield if ur doing tougher higher hitting monsters like gargoyles, because obby shield gives a def boost as well as giveing same str boost as rune def zamy or sara book if u get monsters that have a magic and melee based att like pyre fiends and bloodvelds i wouldn't use d sq because it doesn't give as much att and str boost as defender or obby For everything you mentioned, the rune defender is best. Seriously. The attack bonuses are so worth it. not really with def u do hit more but u take more damage the only actual dif between obby and def is that obby gives def instead of att boost For routine killing, it doesn't really matter if you get hit more as long as you last a reasonably long time without having to bank. The attack bonus that the rune defender, on the other hand, is very useful because you'll kill things much faster. You're basically trading a few pieces of food for faster kills, and in the vast majority of situations that's worth it. Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 several options all depend on which monster your killing rune def for weaker monsters that u want to kill faster like cave crawlers obby shield if ur doing tougher higher hitting monsters like gargoyles, because obby shield gives a def boost as well as giveing same str boost as rune def zamy or sara book if u get monsters that have a magic and melee based att like pyre fiends and bloodvelds i wouldn't use d sq because it doesn't give as much att and str boost as defender or obby For everything you mentioned, the rune defender is best. Seriously. The attack bonuses are so worth it. not really with def u do hit more but u take more damage the only actual dif between obby and def is that obby gives def instead of att boost For routine killing, it doesn't really matter if you get hit more as long as you last a reasonably long time without having to bank. The attack bonus that the rune defender, on the other hand, is very useful because you'll kill things much faster. You're basically trading a few pieces of food for faster kills, and in the vast majority of situations that's worth it. That should end that little debate. Defenders are just superior in all applicable slayer situations. Seeing as the poster refuses to use a defender for some reason, the whole argument is irrelevant, though. Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel555555 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 several options all depend on which monster your killing rune def for weaker monsters that u want to kill faster like cave crawlers obby shield if ur doing tougher higher hitting monsters like gargoyles, because obby shield gives a def boost as well as giveing same str boost as rune def zamy or sara book if u get monsters that have a magic and melee based att like pyre fiends and bloodvelds i wouldn't use d sq because it doesn't give as much att and str boost as defender or obby For everything you mentioned, the rune defender is best. Seriously. The attack bonuses are so worth it. not really with def u do hit more but u take more damage the only actual dif between obby and def is that obby gives def instead of att boost For routine killing, it doesn't really matter if you get hit more as long as you last a reasonably long time without having to bank. The attack bonus that the rune defender, on the other hand, is very useful because you'll kill things much faster. You're basically trading a few pieces of food for faster kills, and in the vast majority of situations that's worth it. That should end that little debate. Defenders are just superior in all applicable slayer situations. Seeing as the poster refuses to use a defender for some reason, the whole argument is irrelevant, though. i have all 3 def, obby, and a dsq, as well as all 4 mage books i use def for easy monster such as cave crawlers, kalphites etc. easy monster but ones u wan't to get done fast obby for higher hitting monsters that r farther from a bank like terrordogs who r multy, hit decent, pray is cut short by a ton, and the 40 def boost is noticable dsq is pretty much taking up bank space and i use my books for bloodvelds, pyre fiends and water fiends and all other non drags that have mage based atts so ya i do use a rune def [spoiler=click you know you wanna]Me behave? Seriously? As a child I saw Tarzan almost naked, Cinderella arrived home from a party after midnight, Pinocchio told lies, Aladin was a thief, Batman drove over 200 miles an hour, Snow White lived in a house with seven men, Popeye smoked a pipe and had tattoos, Pac man ran around to digital music while eating pills that enhanced his performance, and Shaggy and Scooby were mystery solving hippies who always had the munchies. The fault is not mine! if you had this childhood and loved it put this in your signature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel555555 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 how bout agree to disagree? Defender is useful in tons of situations because of its att boost but zammy book also gives an att boost so this argument will just keep going in circles and in the end depends on what you prefer higher chances of hitting or less food used [spoiler=click you know you wanna]Me behave? Seriously? As a child I saw Tarzan almost naked, Cinderella arrived home from a party after midnight, Pinocchio told lies, Aladin was a thief, Batman drove over 200 miles an hour, Snow White lived in a house with seven men, Popeye smoked a pipe and had tattoos, Pac man ran around to digital music while eating pills that enhanced his performance, and Shaggy and Scooby were mystery solving hippies who always had the munchies. The fault is not mine! if you had this childhood and loved it put this in your signature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovecardj Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Defender is best in every single slayer situation. stop trying to defend other shields when they dont even come close to comparing. Dragon Drops: 80+ boots, 7 med, 3 skirt, 2 left half, 2 Spear, 2 2hSlayer: 30+ whips, 4 Bows, 1 Mask, 3 Granite Legs, 1 Visage (Wyverns)Notable GWD Splits: Bandos Tassets: 12, Bandos Chest: 11, Bandos Hilt: 2Proud Slayer of 99 Att/Str/Def/HP/Range/Summoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Ding Ding! Here comes the quote train! several options all depend on which monster your killing rune def for weaker monsters that u want to kill faster like cave crawlers obby shield if ur doing tougher higher hitting monsters like gargoyles, because obby shield gives a def boost as well as giveing same str boost as rune def zamy or sara book if u get monsters that have a magic and melee based att like pyre fiends and bloodvelds i wouldn't use d sq because it doesn't give as much att and str boost as defender or obby For everything you mentioned, the rune defender is best. Seriously. The attack bonuses are so worth it. not really with def u do hit more but u take more damage the only actual dif between obby and def is that obby gives def instead of att boost For routine killing, it doesn't really matter if you get hit more as long as you last a reasonably long time without having to bank. The attack bonus that the rune defender, on the other hand, is very useful because you'll kill things much faster. You're basically trading a few pieces of food for faster kills, and in the vast majority of situations that's worth it. That should end that little debate. Defenders are just superior in all applicable slayer situations. Seeing as the poster refuses to use a defender for some reason, the whole argument is irrelevant, though. i have all 3 def, obby, and a dsq, as well as all 4 mage books i use def for easy monster such as cave crawlers, kalphites etc. easy monster but ones u wan't to get done fast obby for higher hitting monsters that r farther from a bank like terrordogs who r multy, hit decent, pray is cut short by a ton, and the 40 def boost is noticable dsq is pretty much taking up bank space and i use my books for bloodvelds, pyre fiends and water fiends and all other non drags that have mage based atts so ya i do use a rune def Obby? Terrordogs are a fairly good idea, except that the killing speed increase with defender more then offsetsts the small defence bonus. Then again, most people blacklist terror dogs - if not, they are actually quite easy to bank with. Books for bloodvelds? Use karils instead, that extra +8 defence from the Sara book isn't worth squat. Pyre fiends? +8 defence doesn't mean squat, and when was the last time you needed much food on a pyrefiend task? All good crush weapons are 2 handed, so shields aren't even an option at waterfiends (and if they were, +19 slash and +5 strength are much better then +8 magic defence). Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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