llamster Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Mithril drags. Different category then other metals imo, but they are a money loss basically. I don't have em blocked but I may skip them time to time. Mithril dragons are quite profitable even if you don't get any good drops. The mith bars and dragon bones pay for a good chunk of the expenses. Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Mithril dragons are quite profitable even if you don't get any good drops. The mith bars and dragon bones pay for a good chunk of the expenses. This. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Mithril dragons are quite profitable even if you don't get any good drops. The mith bars and dragon bones pay for a good chunk of the expenses. This. Plus, the task size is SO small that you should just go and do it. Plus, it's fun. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumpta Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Pah, there's really no need for all the equipment people are talking about on this thread. Yes, a cannon is nice and all, but frankly, the xp is fine without it as well, since the cannonable monsters aren't exactly the big toughies either. As suggested, you could use super sets or combat pots to have your prayer pots last longer, and they're not that costly anymore, so that shouldn't be a problem. You could also change masters. Sumona is an underrated, but great master. I've stuck to her all the way to 99 slayer and I've made a bucketload of money. She assigns heaps of not too difficult herb- and seed-dropping monsters. And that's where the money is at the moment. You'll find that even some of the easiest slayer monsters are worth their while, with all the seeds and pure essence they drop. I mined tin to 99 mining, that makes me great. Sumona is underrated, but she is worse than Duradel. Not to mention all her tasks are "cannonable" so if your not cannoning, more reason not to use her... Should you bother with expensive equipment? No. They increase your experience by a measly 1 or 2 %. But a cannon ... anyways, anybody can make enough money/hour to make it an efficient method. I hardly think using the best-but-one slayer master is in the same league as mining tin... And since the OP specifically asked for solving his funding problem, dropping the cannon seems a straighforward solution until he does come into a bit of money. So, I find your disparaging of me rather unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat666 Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Slayer will make you money 9/10 tasks. You are probably just not killing monsters effectivley. I pray on Black Demons, Metal Dragons, Scarabites, Abby Spectres and Waterfiends and still profit in the long run, even with cannoning some tasks. Sure sometimes you will get a run of expensive tasks but the rewards are worth it in the end. Only last week I got a Sara Plate from a Treasure Trail so thats an instant 1.8mil which is 100% profit. Trust the Gene Genie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat666 Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 What tasks do you have blocked? The only tasks that are a money sink for me are / were or use prayer: Black demons if you dont pray flash. if you flash its profitable Even with prayer I profit here 9 times out of 10. I get at least 2 rune chains per tasks which is 8 prayer pots, this is before rune meds which I also get at least 2 of per trip. They also drop ranarrs so that's a prayer pot in my eyes. Abberants with a cannon, though can break even very often, sometimes gain profit. These are horridly slow without cannon tbh. I don't like cannoning these as I keep having to move to collect drops as they mage. I find them fast standard method, use 2 prayer pots per trip (with terrorbird) and can do a trip very quickly. May not be uber fast but the profits come thick and fast here. Metals/black drags I all have blocked and i reccomend you to as well. Its junk exp, slow long tasks. Drops are barely worth anything these days and I definately would not count on a visage ever at metals Black drags you can use babies in chaos tunnels, therefore blocking them is kinda silly. Babies are pretty rubbish but its better than the adults and saves you a skip slot. Bronze drags are annoying but rare luckily. Steels take too long to kill/not enough spawns so I have these blocked. Irons I do as there are enough spawns to go round. I'd say I lose here mostly, but the odd dragon legs is nice. Mithril drags are only assigned to a max of like 8 and the bars make up for prayer pot use anyway. I have sugahs, warped monsters, scarabites all blocked by quests atm. no knowledge on them Sugahs are fast XP if you cannon the guys to the north, but they attack melee/mage so are annoying. the southern Sugahs only attack with melee but there are not many spawns. Easy kills though. Warped Terrorbirds are rubbish as they attack range/melee and have nothing worthwhile to make up for this so these are blocked. Tortoises are OK but slow, not worth a skip slot imoh as they are rare. Scarabites hit hard with all 3 types of combat. However if you are high level you can get the fastest slayer XP in game with a cannon. You lose out majorly but the task is over in 15-20 mins and they give great XP so it's worth it. Waterfiends, gain you money even with ppots Also drop crimsons. Love these. Mithril drags. Different category then other metals imo, but they are a money loss basically. I don't have em blocked but I may skip them time to time. See above. They make you cash in bars/drops usually. You only get a max of 8 whichmakes up for the slowness. Dags if you cannon. Without cannon its still fast exp but nearly as fast Profit without cannon, slight loss if you cannon, but this is easily offset in sheer speed of task. Dark beasts? no knowledge on them atm Bit of a pain in the bottom to get to but you can kill them easy enough as you will be high combat at 90 slayer. They attack with mage/melee but only use one or the other depedant on if you are up close or safespotting. I've never had a task of them so don't know the numbers/profit but I'd imagine it's profit as they drop nice rune alchables. Wyverns. You dont pray these and usually you profit, or great profit. insane crimsons reguardless I skip these as they seem to hit hard with any armour configuartion. It's too far to bank regularly and there drops are rubbish (cept crimsons/visage) and the XP isn't great either. Mages - usually get boots often enough to profit well 1/70 drop rate for boots. Anyone who skips these is a fool. Ive made many 10s of millions off slayer, just make sure you are doing the tasks properly I guess. I agree 100%, make sure you are using Karils for Bloodvelds for example as they will rip into metal armour as there melee attack is mage based. Using that example, don't bring food/pray/guthan/bunyip to Bloodvelds, Bones to Peaches works fine and is so cheap. You don't need the best gear, you don't need a cannon, and you certainly don't need to rush. Slayer is a slow skill to train naturally. You can speed it up a bit but obviously this comes at cost. In the same way you can get to 99 range with mage short/mith arrows or you can power it with Chinchompas Trust the Gene Genie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovecardj Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 I disagree about not bring bunyip to blood velds I bring dhide armor and bunyip 1-2 pouches and I never need a single food. 2 pouches = less then 4k and you never have to eat food/collect bones/use guthans. 4k is like a few tabs. also karils is way overkill there imo. Using karils/b2p you will surely use more then 4k in armor damage/b2p tabs. and waste time collecting bones. that is slowing you down and costing you more imo Mith drags I use piety for faster kills, i usually lose a bit of gp but not alot even with dbones/mith bars. i often get nothing good but I can see them being profitable, and they are worth doing cause they are fun/chance at dfull etc Baby blacks are ok in chaos tunnels but let me ask you: 75ish exp per kill (low). often drops only green charms at best (not crimson) the kill rate is mediocre at best. They are reasonably not fast access. is it worth doing? for me they are not With slayer rings/other teles every task for me is almost less then 30 sec to get to. these seem out of the way for nothing really. About the quest monsters I have locked I am aware they are cannonable and decent (except warped imo) I will unlock these when I start cannoning more often. Abberants is a matter of choice, But I find making multiple bank trips on task annoying, and with a terrorbird and a cannon I can manage on no banking while getting all ranaar/kwuarm drops along with good seeds, and armor alchs etc. making a break even task often. 180 abberants takes half an hour at most. Black demons are an ok task but they are the one task which makes me bored on slayer and thats the main reason i blocked it. I don't do what I dont think is fun in this game. ppl often say 2-5 rune drops per trip. I averaged 1,another reason i found it boring. They had good crimsons, but id say 75%+ of duradels tasks i do I get similar crimsons anyways. Wyverns I can do up to 90-100 with making 1 bank trip. 100+ crimsons per task on average is nice, along with granite legs as a more common then dragon legs drop imo(and no chance at skirt), and visage at a better rate then everything non kbd/mith makes them worth doing. Its easy and a way underlooked task. 70+ takes me 2 hours tops.... which is still decent exp compared to metals (7k+ an hour) waterfiends are an amazing task. profitable and best crimson dropper in game that is melee'd I had 4000 slayer points (used a bunch for cash) I still have 1k in reserve for skipping annoynig tasks such as: Hellhounds - only drops gold charms basically, and is annoying to get to. often crowded. Kalphites - good with cannon, but big cash sink. I dont cannon these atm, so i dont do them Greaters - Good crimson droppper, but wild dogs annoy me. will be doing these at 127 combat probly. I saw infernal mages listed as a task he gives but ive honestly never had it. Anyone get this from him before? Dark beasts I will try but may skip until I get my unicorn. Discussion is fun :) These are all my opinions of course every one is entitled to their own Dragon Drops: 80+ boots, 7 med, 3 skirt, 2 left half, 2 Spear, 2 2hSlayer: 30+ whips, 4 Bows, 1 Mask, 3 Granite Legs, 1 Visage (Wyverns)Notable GWD Splits: Bandos Tassets: 12, Bandos Chest: 11, Bandos Hilt: 2Proud Slayer of 99 Att/Str/Def/HP/Range/Summoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat666 Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 [/b]I disagree about not bring bunyip to blood velds I bring dhide armor and bunyip 1-2 pouches and I never need a single food. 2 pouches = less then 4k and you never have to eat food/collect bones/use guthans. 4k is like a few tabs. also karils is way overkill there imo. Using karils/b2p you will surely use more then 4k in armor damage/b2p tabs. and waste time collecting bones. that is slowing you down and costing you more imo I use a Bunyip too if I'm honest as it's less hassle than bones to peaches. If you are slaying on the cheap Bones to Peaches is the way to go, you don't need tabs, just runes, Bloodvelds don't drop much which clogs ya inven up. Baby blacks are ok in chaos tunnels but let me ask you: 75ish exp per kill (low). often drops only green charms at best (not crimson) the kill rate is mediocre at best. They are reasonably not fast access. is it worth doing? for me they are not From memory they are 1 portal from an entrance to the tunnels. Yes they give low XP but so do lots of other slayer monsters. My arguement is its not worth wasting one of 4 valuable bans on. You don't have Terrorbirds unlocked yet, i'd choose Baby Blacks over Terrorbirds any day of the week. About the quest monsters I have locked I am aware they are cannonable and decent (except warped imo) I will unlock these when I start cannoning more often. Sugahs can be melee'd and are pretty rare. I've had 2 tasks and am 90 slayer. Don't hold off the brilliant Lunar quest for them. Scarabites I would keep locked, yes it's fast XP but they are very annoying. Same with the warped ones. I'm just a quester and like to have them all unlocked. Abberants is a matter of choice, But I find making multiple bank trips on task annoying, and with a terrorbird and a cannon I can manage on no banking while getting all ranaar/kwuarm drops along with good seeds, and armor alchs etc. making a break even task often. 180 abberants takes half an hour at most. It's preference with these. I like semi-playing so don't like things which take 100% of my time. collecting herbs, filling cannon etc. is too much for me. Whereas meleeing them takes a little longer but I don't need as much attention plus I make a bit more cash. Black demons are an ok task but they are the one task which makes me bored on slayer and thats the main reason i blocked it. I don't do what I dont think is fun in this game. ppl often say 2-5 rune drops per trip. I averaged 1,another reason i found it boring. They had good crimsons, but id say 75%+ of duradels tasks i do I get similar crimsons anyways. Black Demons are awesome XP in melee and slayer. You can pray melee or cannon. Yeah they are slow, but worth it. Wyverns I can do up to 90-100 with making 1 bank trip. 100+ crimsons per task on average is nice, along with granite legs as a more common then dragon legs drop imo(and no chance at skirt), and visage at a better rate then everything non kbd/mith makes them worth doing. Its easy and a way underlooked task. 70+ takes me 2 hours tops.... which is still decent exp compared to metals (7k+ an hour) They are like marmite, you love them or hate them. I hate them. Hellhounds - only drops gold charms basically, and is annoying to get to. often crowded. Good XP though. Use a cannon to clear others, then pick it up and melee. Kalphites - good with cannon, but big cash sink. I dont cannon these atm, so i dont do them I don't like them if I'm honest. Drop a few blues which is nice and OK with cannon. Greaters - Good crimson droppper, but wild dogs annoy me. will be doing these at 127 combat probly. The aggro only lasts for approx 1 dose of potions. If you use Brimhaven and stick to the top 3 demons you're onto a winner. One of them wanders over the aggro line, but you get used to it eventually. Very fast task as greaters are so weak. I saw infernal mages listed as a task he gives but ive honestly never had it. Anyone get this from him before? A few times. Karils and bones to peaches worked but this was before I had a Bunyip. I would use a Bunyip nowadays. Trust the Gene Genie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovecardj Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 I can see terrorbirds completely deserving a block, but Im not unlocking them until 99 slayer so I don't have to worry. I will unlock sugahs eventually but I'm in no hurry for any lunar spells yet. I think i will keep scarabites blocked as well until 99 slayer unless im convinced otherwise Dragon Drops: 80+ boots, 7 med, 3 skirt, 2 left half, 2 Spear, 2 2hSlayer: 30+ whips, 4 Bows, 1 Mask, 3 Granite Legs, 1 Visage (Wyverns)Notable GWD Splits: Bandos Tassets: 12, Bandos Chest: 11, Bandos Hilt: 2Proud Slayer of 99 Att/Str/Def/HP/Range/Summoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat666 Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 I can see terrorbirds completely deserving a block, but Im not unlocking them until 99 slayer so I don't have to worry. I will unlock sugahs eventually but I'm in no hurry for any lunar spells yet. I think i will keep scarabites blocked as well until 99 slayer unless im convinced otherwise My opinion is do as much as you can as Jagex will update. A new lunar spell could be released in October which is so awesome you must have it, but then you'd have to do 2 quests first. Same with the Warped one, quest is pants for sure but it's building to a huge story with the gnomes, and the last big gnome quest gave us the dragon scimmy... Trust the Gene Genie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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